Re: multi measure rests
- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" To: "lilly pond discuss discuss" Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:13:44 PM Subject: multi measure rests I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll have 4 doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for one measure R4. R4. R4. R4. | for example? Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions. Take care. For one measure rest in 12/8: R1. Several measures rest in 12/8, for example, 8 measures: R1.*8 -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
multi measure rests
I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll have 4 doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for one measure R4. R4. R4. R4. | for example? Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions. Take care. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi measure rests vertical positioning
Hi Werner, > I must solve everything for R manually while r works fine. > Any ideas to solve that? Can you write a callback function to determine the position of the r and apply it to the R? Just a thought. Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Multi measure rests vertical positioning
Hallo, I often used just r1 instead of R1 in 4/4 and 2/2 time. Now I thought, it would be good, to use the horizontally centered full-measure rests. BUT: I write two voices in one staff. For a while the lower voice plays quite high, the higher voice rests for some measures. The r1-rests are printed always "a quint higher" than the lower voice's notes. The R1-rests are printed always at the top line of the staff, but that makes collisions with the notes of the lower voice. Unfortunately it seems, that the lilypond default is ugly in that situation. also threads http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/76997 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/16000 didn't help me so much. (There is a hint, but I think, its bad, if I must solve everything for R manually while r works fine.) Any ideas to solve that? Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-measure rests and counter in piano staff
Am 21.10.2012 15:51, schrieb Helge Kruse: [...] This measure counter allows a start and a stop. I did not find an option to start at a specific number. Image you start at rehearsel mark H, have a multi-measure rest of 16 bars. In the 17th measure you have some cue notes. It would be nice to start the measure counter hear at 17 to count until your intstrument has to play. Therefore the start at a specific number would be great. Do you think this can be added? This is implemented in David's patch already: \override Staff.MeasureCounter #'count-from = #17 should do the trick. HTH, Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-measure rests and counter in piano staff
2012/10/19 David Nalesnik > > to comment #21 at > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2445 . Understand > that this version might cause problems if you're running a batch of > files (which won't happen with the version that's in the review > process.) The engraver could be added to a Dynamics context, or you > could put it in one of the Staff contexts and adjust the positioning. > This looks very intresting. In the first try I get some errors when I add it to my more complex score. I will break it down to see, what I did wrong. This measure counter allows a start and a stop. I did not find an option to start at a specific number. Image you start at rehearsel mark H, have a multi-measure rest of 16 bars. In the 17th measure you have some cue notes. It would be nice to start the measure counter hear at 17 to count until your intstrument has to play. Therefore the start at a specific number would be great. Do you think this can be added? Thanks Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-measure rests and counter in piano staff
Hi Helge, On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Helge Kruse wrote: > Do you have any idea how to combine the two multi-rest bar counts in a > piano staff? > > Helge > > 2012/10/17 Helge Kruse >> >> When playing in an orchestra it's important to count rests. To make this >> tasks easier you can write numbers into rest measures. >> >> Especially for a piano staff it gives a calm picture when the empty space >> between the staves is used. The attached picture shows this starting at >> Allegretto. Further it would be good to have the number of multi-measure >> rests between the staves. >> >> How can I write _one_ multi measure rest number in piano staff between the >> staff lines? This is the topic of a recent thread, which you might find helpful: http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg74895.html >> How can I add a counter starting at a measure n and counting to measure >> n+x? This should not be the current bar number but an arbitrary counter. If >> this is not supported, how can I place the counter numbers to the middle of >> the piano staff? There is a measure counter currently in the review process, so hopefully at some point it will make it into the code base. In the meantime, you can find a version of this code which can be included in your .ly file in the discussion of that issue. See the file attached to comment #21 at http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2445 . Understand that this version might cause problems if you're running a batch of files (which won't happen with the version that's in the review process.) The engraver could be added to a Dynamics context, or you could put it in one of the Staff contexts and adjust the positioning. Hope this helps. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-measure rests and counter in piano staff
Do you have any idea how to combine the two multi-rest bar counts in a
piano staff?
Helge
2012/10/17 Helge Kruse
> When playing in an orchestra it's important to count rests. To make this
> tasks easier you can write numbers into rest measures.
>
> Especially for a piano staff it gives a calm picture when the empty space
> between the staves is used. The attached picture shows this starting at
> Allegretto. Further it would be good to have the number of multi-measure
> rests between the staves.
>
> How can I write _one_ multi measure rest number in piano staff between the
> staff lines?
> How can I add a counter starting at a measure n and counting to measure
> n+x? This should not be the current bar number but an arbitrary counter. If
> this is not supported, how can I place the counter numbers to the middle of
> the piano staff?
>
> Regards
> Helge
>
> \version "2.16.0"
>
> up = \relative c' {
> R1*20 \mark "E" R1*26 | R1*3
> \time 6/4
> \tempo Allegretto
> a'2.\ppp r | r a | r a
> }
>
> down = \relative c {
> \clef bass
> R1*20 R1*26 | R1*3^\markup{rall.}
> \time 6/4
> a'2. r | r a | r a
> }
>
> \score {
> \new PianoStaff {
> <<
> \new Staff { \compressFullBarRests \up }
> \new Staff { \compressFullBarRests \down }
> >>
> }
> }
>
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Multi-measure rests and counter in piano staff
When playing in an orchestra it's important to count rests. To make this
tasks easier you can write numbers into rest measures.
Especially for a piano staff it gives a calm picture when the empty
space between the staves is used. The attached picture shows this
starting at Allegretto. Further it would be good to have the number of
multi-measure rests between the staves.
How can I write _one_ multi measure rest number in piano staff between
the staff lines?
How can I add a counter starting at a measure n and counting to measure
n+x? This should not be the current bar number but an arbitrary counter.
If this is not supported, how can I place the counter numbers to the
middle of the piano staff?
Regards
Helge
\version "2.16.0"
up = \relative c' {
R1*20 \mark "E" R1*26 | R1*3
\time 6/4
\tempo Allegretto
a'2.\ppp r | r a | r a
}
down = \relative c {
\clef bass
R1*20 R1*26 | R1*3^\markup{rall.}
\time 6/4
a'2. r | r a | r a
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff {
<<
\new Staff { \compressFullBarRests \up }
\new Staff { \compressFullBarRests \down }
>>
}
}
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Re: Shorthand notation for multi-measure rests in music with frequent meter changes ?
Thanks Neil, those are good tips. I'm a long time vim user so shortcuts are certainly a possibility. OTOH, I've recently found that JEdit + LilyPondTool makes a real difference in my productivity compared to vim + some helper scripts I had put together. I know JEdit has its own Java-based macro language but if I'm going to let coding distract me from music (happens waaayyy too often) I might as well put the time into getter better at Scheme. Anyway, I do appreciate the suggestions and may put them to use if creating a music-function looks like too big a time-sink. Cheers, Mike On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Neil Thornock wrote: > I can't answer your question, but I have two responses to the dilemma. > First, R2. is more compact than R1*3/4, and R1*2 is better than > R1*8/4. Same with R4*5 vs R1*5/4. > > Also, if you happen to use Vim -- I keep all my time signatures in a > separate file from the notes. It's then simple to map time signatures > to keystrokes; entering time signatures can be very very fast. So I > hit the letter "A" and I get "\time 1/4 s4". > > Quick and maybe not helpful answer, but there you go. > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Michael Ellis > wrote: >> I'm currently transcribing parts from music with frequently changing >> meters and segments where a part is resting. The sequence below is >> typical. >> >> \time 3/4 R1*3/4 | >> \time 3/8 R1*3/8 | >> \time 4/4 R1*8/4 | % 2 bars >> \time 3/8 R1*3/8 | >> >> Does anyone know how to write a music function that will support a >> more compact notation? Being able specify the time signature changes >> and rests shown above with a syntax like the following would be a nice >> timesaver. >> >> mmr = #(define-music-function ) >> >> \mmr 3/4 3/8 2*4/4 3/8 ... >> >> The best I've been able to cobble together is too messy to be useful >> because of the need to use the # sign before arguments, etc. In >> particular, I haven't found any way to pass a bare fraction like 3/4 >> into a music function. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Mike >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> > > > > -- > Neil Thornock, D.M. > The recent BYU Symphony Orchestra performance of Plutoids: > http://neilthornock.net/mp3s/plutoids.mp3 > Assistant Professor of Music > Composition/Theory > Brigham Young University > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shorthand notation for multi-measure rests in music with frequent meter changes ?
I can't answer your question, but I have two responses to the dilemma. First, R2. is more compact than R1*3/4, and R1*2 is better than R1*8/4. Same with R4*5 vs R1*5/4. Also, if you happen to use Vim -- I keep all my time signatures in a separate file from the notes. It's then simple to map time signatures to keystrokes; entering time signatures can be very very fast. So I hit the letter "A" and I get "\time 1/4 s4". Quick and maybe not helpful answer, but there you go. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Michael Ellis wrote: > I'm currently transcribing parts from music with frequently changing > meters and segments where a part is resting. The sequence below is > typical. > > \time 3/4 R1*3/4 | > \time 3/8 R1*3/8 | > \time 4/4 R1*8/4 | % 2 bars > \time 3/8 R1*3/8 | > > Does anyone know how to write a music function that will support a > more compact notation? Being able specify the time signature changes > and rests shown above with a syntax like the following would be a nice > timesaver. > > mmr = #(define-music-function ) > > \mmr 3/4 3/8 2*4/4 3/8 ... > > The best I've been able to cobble together is too messy to be useful > because of the need to use the # sign before arguments, etc. In > particular, I haven't found any way to pass a bare fraction like 3/4 > into a music function. > > > Thanks, > Mike > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > -- Neil Thornock, D.M. The recent BYU Symphony Orchestra performance of Plutoids: http://neilthornock.net/mp3s/plutoids.mp3 Assistant Professor of Music Composition/Theory Brigham Young University ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Shorthand notation for multi-measure rests in music with frequent meter changes ?
I'm currently transcribing parts from music with frequently changing meters and segments where a part is resting. The sequence below is typical. \time 3/4 R1*3/4 | \time 3/8 R1*3/8 | \time 4/4 R1*8/4 | % 2 bars \time 3/8 R1*3/8 | Does anyone know how to write a music function that will support a more compact notation? Being able specify the time signature changes and rests shown above with a syntax like the following would be a nice timesaver. mmr = #(define-music-function ) \mmr 3/4 3/8 2*4/4 3/8 ... The best I've been able to cobble together is too messy to be useful because of the need to use the # sign before arguments, etc. In particular, I haven't found any way to pass a bare fraction like 3/4 into a music function. Thanks, Mike ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
Alexander, Yes, I've got what I need for now, so no rush on the fix. Whenever you do get to it, let me know and I'll be happy to test. Randy Alexander Kobel wrote: > > rasAK wrote: >> I don't have time to look into this, but wanted you to be aware: I went >> ahead and used the BarNumberStaff rather than the BarNumberVoice. In >> trying >> to adjust the Y-Offset of the BarNumberVoice, it moves the lyrics down as >> well. The BarNumberStaff does not. > > Ah, I think I see the problem. A MMRNumber is added under every MMR; > it's just a "" string for the single measure rests, but even this > affects the spacing. No clue why this does not seem to hurt with the > BarNumberStaff approach. > > Maybe I should take the time and test whether an empty stencil instead > of the null text helps, but it's not quite on top of my priority queue > if you're fine with your current solution. > > > Cheers, > Alexander > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Multi-Measure-Rests%3A-Adding-to-what-gets-printed--tp27288983p27348877.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
rasAK wrote: I don't have time to look into this, but wanted you to be aware: I went ahead and used the BarNumberStaff rather than the BarNumberVoice. In trying to adjust the Y-Offset of the BarNumberVoice, it moves the lyrics down as well. The BarNumberStaff does not. Ah, I think I see the problem. A MMRNumber is added under every MMR; it's just a "" string for the single measure rests, but even this affects the spacing. No clue why this does not seem to hurt with the BarNumberStaff approach. Maybe I should take the time and test whether an empty stencil instead of the null text helps, but it's not quite on top of my priority queue if you're fine with your current solution. Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
Alexander,
I don't have time to look into this, but wanted you to be aware: I went
ahead and used the BarNumberStaff rather than the BarNumberVoice. In trying
to adjust the Y-Offset of the BarNumberVoice, it moves the lyrics down as
well. The BarNumberStaff does not.
\new BarNumberVoice \with {
\override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'Y-offset = #-7
\override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'font-size = #-2 }
{ \compressFullBarRests \global \TemplateMelody }
Randy
Alexander Kobel wrote:
>
> me - stanford wrote:
>> 2) Also, do you think #'outside-staff-priority = #150 is a reasonable
>> priority setting for the MMR Text? I'm not sure what most objects'
>> settings are for this property. I was just trying to get it to win over
>> the Lyrics setting.
>
> Oh, and just a few words about this before I leave for today.
>
> AFAICS, the Lyrics as well as the BarNumberStaff form a vertically
> aligned group (Is this a VerticalAxisGroup? I'm not sure here...) of
> their own - I think of them as normal staves, basically.
> I _think_ that it should not be possible for grobs of those neighboring
> groups to "cross"; you're merely pushing the MultiMeasureRestNumbers far
> above the center baseline of the BarNumberStaff, and since there are no
> lyrics under a MMR, the skylines of the two squeeze together. So I
> wonder why 'outside-staff-priority should change anything at all (and
> also didn't test it, to be honest).
>
> That's why I prefer the approach with an additional voice a single
> staff: Both MMRNumbers belong to voices in the same staff (read:
> vertical group), just with different directions in which they are
> attached. Thus, your settings are unaffected by, say, a second stanza,
> larger lyrics, dynamics between staff and lyrics, and so on. An in this
> case, you could also use 'outside-staff-priority and '...-padding, but
> I'm almost certain you won't need them.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alexander
>
>
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Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
me - stanford wrote: 2) Also, do you think #'outside-staff-priority = #150 is a reasonable priority setting for the MMR Text? I'm not sure what most objects' settings are for this property. I was just trying to get it to win over the Lyrics setting. Oh, and just a few words about this before I leave for today. AFAICS, the Lyrics as well as the BarNumberStaff form a vertically aligned group (Is this a VerticalAxisGroup? I'm not sure here...) of their own - I think of them as normal staves, basically. I _think_ that it should not be possible for grobs of those neighboring groups to "cross"; you're merely pushing the MultiMeasureRestNumbers far above the center baseline of the BarNumberStaff, and since there are no lyrics under a MMR, the skylines of the two squeeze together. So I wonder why 'outside-staff-priority should change anything at all (and also didn't test it, to be honest). That's why I prefer the approach with an additional voice a single staff: Both MMRNumbers belong to voices in the same staff (read: vertical group), just with different directions in which they are attached. Thus, your settings are unaffected by, say, a second stanza, larger lyrics, dynamics between staff and lyrics, and so on. An in this case, you could also use 'outside-staff-priority and '...-padding, but I'm almost certain you won't need them. Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
rasAK wrote: Alexander, The only remaining issue is the positioning of the text that results from your function. It is currently being placed above the number (which is above the MMR). I tried to adjust some of the Y-offset and Y-extent numbers, but could only get the text to move up. I would like for it to print below the MMR (but keeping the number of measures in the MMR above the MMR). Something like the following: 6 |-| ( 121 - 126 ) Thoughts? Hi, Randy, I assume you're using a two-voices approach then, where one of the voices only contains the MMRs for the measure numbers? In this case, I _believe_ it should be enough to \override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'direction = #DOWN. If this should not work, can you post your current code? It should be easier to find the tweaks if I see what's going on behind the masks. Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
Alexander,
One other thing. Your code does solve the "additional wrinkle" I referred
to. In the attached, at letter I, you will see that a 20 MMR is broken up
by Rehearsal Letter "I" and your function calcs the 2 contiguous MMR ranges
correctly and attaches them.
Randy
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27319831/Bach_Singet_dem_Herrn_04_choir_I_bassoon_pg_2.pdf
Bach_Singet_dem_Herrn_04_choir_I_bassoon_pg_2.pdf
Alexander Kobel wrote:
>
> rasAK wrote:
>> In my orchestral parts, I would like Multi-Measure Rests to have both:
>> (1) an integer representing the number of measures in the current MMR,
>> centered above (default behavior)
>> (2) a second text indicating which measures are included in the given
>> MMR,
>> in parentheses and centered BELOW the MMR.
>>
>> (1) happens automatically. (2) is what I don't know how to do.
>
> Hi, Randy,
>
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=651 includes what you're after, just
> that it writes a bar number on every single measure by default. But in
> principle you can copy most of the overrides concerning
> MultiMeasureRestNumbers from BarNumberStaff into a second voice (for
> (2)), which shares but the MMRs with your given voices (which do (1)).
>
> To add the parentheses, replace lines 99 to 102 by:
> (if (= start-measure end-measure)
> (string-append "(" (number->string start-measure) ")") ;; or only
> "" in this line if you don't want single bars numbered at all
> (string-append
> "(" (number->string start-measure) " – " (number->string
> end-measure) ")"
>
> If you just want to plug in a BarNumberStaff as shown in the LSR
> snippet, you just have to write "" in line 100, as stated above, and
> you're basically done, since single measures won't have a visible
> BarNumber text in this case.
>
>> As an additional wrinkle, if Rehearsal Letter "A" happened to fall at mm.
>> 9,
>> Example 1b should output 2 MMRs ( |--4--| and |--6--|) with "( 4 - 7 )"
>> and
>> "( 8 - 13 )" below.
>
> Sorry, no idea on this one.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alexander
>
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Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
Alexander,
I've modified the BarNumberStaff code as you suggested. I also changed one
line in your \layout block. I commented out the Mark_engraver as I was
getting double boxed rehearsal letters:
%\consists Mark_engraver
The only remaining issue is the positioning of the text that results from
your function. It is currently being placed above the number (which is
above the MMR). I tried to adjust some of the Y-offset and Y-extent
numbers, but could only get the text to move up. I would like for it to
print below the MMR (but keeping the number of measures in the MMR above the
MMR). Something like the following:
6
|-|
( 121 - 126 )
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Randy
Alexander Kobel wrote:
>
> rasAK wrote:
>> In my orchestral parts, I would like Multi-Measure Rests to have both:
>> (1) an integer representing the number of measures in the current MMR,
>> centered above (default behavior)
>> (2) a second text indicating which measures are included in the given
>> MMR,
>> in parentheses and centered BELOW the MMR.
>>
>> (1) happens automatically. (2) is what I don't know how to do.
>
> Hi, Randy,
>
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=651 includes what you're after, just
> that it writes a bar number on every single measure by default. But in
> principle you can copy most of the overrides concerning
> MultiMeasureRestNumbers from BarNumberStaff into a second voice (for
> (2)), which shares but the MMRs with your given voices (which do (1)).
>
> To add the parentheses, replace lines 99 to 102 by:
> (if (= start-measure end-measure)
> (string-append "(" (number->string start-measure) ")") ;; or only
> "" in this line if you don't want single bars numbered at all
> (string-append
> "(" (number->string start-measure) " – " (number->string
> end-measure) ")"
>
> If you just want to plug in a BarNumberStaff as shown in the LSR
> snippet, you just have to write "" in line 100, as stated above, and
> you're basically done, since single measures won't have a visible
> BarNumber text in this case.
>
>> As an additional wrinkle, if Rehearsal Letter "A" happened to fall at mm.
>> 9,
>> Example 1b should output 2 MMRs ( |--4--| and |--6--|) with "( 4 - 7 )"
>> and
>> "( 8 - 13 )" below.
>
> Sorry, no idea on this one.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alexander
>
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Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
Alexander, Thanks so much. I'll take a look at your suggestion in detail. Randy rasAK wrote: > > In my orchestral parts, I would like Multi-Measure Rests to have both: > (1) an integer representing the number of measures in the current MMR, > centered above (default behavior) > (2) a second text indicating which measures are included in the given MMR, > in parentheses and centered BELOW the MMR. > > (1) happens automatically. (2) is what I don't know how to do. I'm > thinking I would have to figure out how to write a Scheme function to do > this, but as I have never written one before, I wanted to know whether > there was an existing, non-Scheme solution. > > As an example, given the following input: > > %EXAMPLE 1a > \time 4/4 > \key c \major > c4 d e f > R1*10 > c d e f > > ...output will generate "10" above the MMR. I would like "( 2 - 11 )" > generated automatically and centered below it. > > If the input were changed to: > > %EXAMPLE 1b > \time 4/4 > \key c \major > c4 d e f > c d e f > c d e f > R1*10 > c d e f > > ...then the output should remain "10" above but change to "( 4 - 13 )" > below the MMR. > > As an additional wrinkle, if Rehearsal Letter "A" happened to fall at mm. > 9, Example 1b should output 2 MMRs ( |--4--| and |--6--|) with "( 4 - 7 )" > and "( 8 - 13 )" below. > > Thanks, > > Randy > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Multi-Measure-Rests%3A-Adding-to-what-gets-printed--tp27288983p27292508.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
rasAK wrote:
In my orchestral parts, I would like Multi-Measure Rests to have both:
(1) an integer representing the number of measures in the current MMR,
centered above (default behavior)
(2) a second text indicating which measures are included in the given MMR,
in parentheses and centered BELOW the MMR.
(1) happens automatically. (2) is what I don't know how to do.
Hi, Randy,
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=651 includes what you're after, just
that it writes a bar number on every single measure by default. But in
principle you can copy most of the overrides concerning
MultiMeasureRestNumbers from BarNumberStaff into a second voice (for
(2)), which shares but the MMRs with your given voices (which do (1)).
To add the parentheses, replace lines 99 to 102 by:
(if (= start-measure end-measure)
(string-append "(" (number->string start-measure) ")") ;; or only
"" in this line if you don't want single bars numbered at all
(string-append
"(" (number->string start-measure) " – " (number->string
end-measure) ")"
If you just want to plug in a BarNumberStaff as shown in the LSR
snippet, you just have to write "" in line 100, as stated above, and
you're basically done, since single measures won't have a visible
BarNumber text in this case.
As an additional wrinkle, if Rehearsal Letter "A" happened to fall at mm. 9,
Example 1b should output 2 MMRs ( |--4--| and |--6--|) with "( 4 - 7 )" and
"( 8 - 13 )" below.
Sorry, no idea on this one.
Cheers,
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Multi-Measure Rests: Adding to what gets printed?
In my orchestral parts, I would like Multi-Measure Rests to have both: (1) an integer representing the number of measures in the current MMR, centered above (default behavior) (2) a second text indicating which measures are included in the given MMR, in parentheses and centered BELOW the MMR. (1) happens automatically. (2) is what I don't know how to do. I'm thinking I would have to figure out how to write a Scheme function to do this, but as I have never written one before, I wanted to know whether there was an existing, non-Scheme solution. As an example, given the following input: %EXAMPLE 1a \time 4/4 \key c \major c4 d e f R1*10 c d e f ...output will generate "10" above the MMR. I would like "( 2 - 11 )" generated automatically and centered below it. If the input were changed to: %EXAMPLE 1b \time 4/4 \key c \major c4 d e f c d e f c d e f R1*10 c d e f ...then the output should remain "10" above but change to "( 4 - 13 )" below the MMR. As an additional wrinkle, if Rehearsal Letter "A" happened to fall at mm. 9, Example 1b should output 2 MMRs ( |--4--| and |--6--|) with "( 4 - 7 )" and "( 8 - 13 )" below. Thanks, Randy -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Multi-Measure-Rests%3A-Adding-to-what-gets-printed--tp27288983p27288983.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Markup with multi-measure rests
...
The second example can easily be modified to get what you want.
Just add \fatText before the first spacer note.
/Mats
\fatText has now been replaced (V2.12.0) with \textLengthOn
But it doesn't solve the problem completely
I have a multi-voice orchestral piece, needing tempo markings at various
points through the score, so I have put these in a separate voice containing
spacer rests, which is then combined with each of the instruments in turn to
print out their parts.
If the instrument has a multi-measure rest coinciding with the tempo
marking, then everything works fine. But if the instrument has notes, these
are spaced out unacceptably. See below. I can't use textLengthOn and Off
in the 'tempos' voice, because some instruments will be playing at a
particular point, while others will not be.
Is there some way to have \textLengthOn apply only to multi-measure rests ?
And it would be good if I could get the rehearsal marks all printed at the
same vertical height as well
\version "2.12.0"
notes = \relative c'' {
R1*3/4*3
c2. d2. e 2.
R1*3/4*6
c2. d2. f2.
}
tempos = {
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\time 3/4
\textLengthOn
s2.*0^\markup {fast}
s2.*3\mark \default s2.*0^\markup {a bit faster by bar 4}
s2.*3\mark \default s2.*0^\markup {really fast at bar 7}
s2.*3\mark \default
s2.*3\mark \default
}
\score {
\context Staff = "test" {
<<
\tempos
\notes
>>
}
}
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Multi-measure rests and \partcombine
Hi,
When several voices are combined on one staff with \partcombine,
multi-measure rests in the first voice are only printed in the first
measure of their span if voiceTwo contains skips. The following measures
are empty.
Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?
When voiceTwo contains rests too, the expected rests are printed (one
rest for both voices).
When voiceTwo contains notes, the rests in voiceOne are note printed: as
expected, only voiceTwo is printed with the "Solo II" indication.
I include an example file which illustrates the three different behaviours:
\version "2.10.25"
testOne={
\time 2/4
R2*4
}
testTwo={s2 s s s}
testThree= \relative c'{c2 d e f}
%supposedly buggy one
\score{
\partcombine
\testOne
\testTwo
}
\score{
\partcombine
\testOne
\testOne
}
\score{
\partcombine
\testOne
\testThree
}
\version "2.10.25"
testOne={
\time 2/4
R2*4
}
testTwo={s2 s s s}
testThree= \relative c'{c2 d e f}
\score{
\partcombine
\testOne
\testTwo
}
\score{
\partcombine
\testOne
\testOne
}
\score{
\partcombine
\testOne
\testThree
}
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Re: Markup with multi-measure rests
Thanks, this first item has been added as
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=495
Cheers,
- Graham
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
To me it seems a bug that you get collisions in your first example.
The second example can easily be modified to get what you want.
Just add \fatText before the first spacer note.
/Mats
Trevor Daniels wrote:
In the following example of writing a typical part
containing multi-measure rests, the annotation of the rests
in 2.11.34 collides if more notes are added to fill the line
(to simulate this, I've added ragged-right = ##t). This
seems to be a bug.
The collisions can be avoided in 2.11 by attaching the
annotation to zero-length skip notes at the start of the
bar, but only by displacing some of the annotations
vertically (see second example). This results in confusing
annotations. IIRC, in 2.10.20 the bars automatically
expanded to avoid collisions of text attached to skip notes,
keeping the annotation all on one level. This was much
better in this context. Is there a way of doing this in
2.11?
% Example of R markup colliding
\version "2.11.34"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
{
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
R1*4^"Intrumental"
R1*24^"Solo"
R1*4^"Instrumental"
b'2^"Tutti" b'4 a'4
}
% Example of R markup displacing vertically
\version "2.11.34"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
{
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
s1*0^"Intrumental" R1*4
s1*0^"Solo" R1*24
s1*0^"Instrumental" R1*4
b'2^"Tutti" b'4 a'4
}
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Re: Markup with multi-measure rests
To me it seems a bug that you get collisions in your first example.
The second example can easily be modified to get what you want.
Just add \fatText before the first spacer note.
/Mats
Trevor Daniels wrote:
In the following example of writing a typical part
containing multi-measure rests, the annotation of the rests
in 2.11.34 collides if more notes are added to fill the line
(to simulate this, I've added ragged-right = ##t). This
seems to be a bug.
The collisions can be avoided in 2.11 by attaching the
annotation to zero-length skip notes at the start of the
bar, but only by displacing some of the annotations
vertically (see second example). This results in confusing
annotations. IIRC, in 2.10.20 the bars automatically
expanded to avoid collisions of text attached to skip notes,
keeping the annotation all on one level. This was much
better in this context. Is there a way of doing this in
2.11?
% Example of R markup colliding
\version "2.11.34"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
{
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
R1*4^"Intrumental"
R1*24^"Solo"
R1*4^"Instrumental"
b'2^"Tutti" b'4 a'4
}
% Example of R markup displacing vertically
\version "2.11.34"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
{
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
s1*0^"Intrumental" R1*4
s1*0^"Solo" R1*24
s1*0^"Instrumental" R1*4
b'2^"Tutti" b'4 a'4
}
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Markup with multi-measure rests
In the following example of writing a typical part
containing multi-measure rests, the annotation of the rests
in 2.11.34 collides if more notes are added to fill the line
(to simulate this, I've added ragged-right = ##t). This
seems to be a bug.
The collisions can be avoided in 2.11 by attaching the
annotation to zero-length skip notes at the start of the
bar, but only by displacing some of the annotations
vertically (see second example). This results in confusing
annotations. IIRC, in 2.10.20 the bars automatically
expanded to avoid collisions of text attached to skip notes,
keeping the annotation all on one level. This was much
better in this context. Is there a way of doing this in
2.11?
% Example of R markup colliding
\version "2.11.34"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
{
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
R1*4^"Intrumental"
R1*24^"Solo"
R1*4^"Instrumental"
b'2^"Tutti" b'4 a'4
}
% Example of R markup displacing vertically
\version "2.11.34"
\paper { ragged-right = ##t }
{
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
s1*0^"Intrumental" R1*4
s1*0^"Solo" R1*24
s1*0^"Instrumental" R1*4
b'2^"Tutti" b'4 a'4
}
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Re: Multi-measure rests again again
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
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Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Added this to the doco:
If you want to have a text on the left end of a multi-measure rest,
attach the text to a zero-length skip note, i.e.
@example
s1*0^"Allegro"
R1*4
@end example
This makes the multimeasure excessively wide and actually steals space
from a following MM rest.
Ah, that seems to be a bug. I fixed it partially in 2.0 CVS.
For the moment, you might want to put the "allegro" atop the 72 \mark.
I tried this again with Ferenc's 2.0.0 deb's and don't see an improvement.
Also after the above example from the doco did you mean to show the
graphic for the example?
Thanks,
Paul
\score {
<<
\property Score.skipBars = ##t
\context Staff = clarinet <<
{
\notes {
\time 3/4 \mark "72"
<< s1*0^\markup{ Largo } R4*3*11 >>
\mark "73" R4*3*11 \mark "74" R4*3*2
d'2\pp\fermata r4 \bar "||"
}
}
>>
>>
\paper {}
}
mmtest2.pdf
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Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This makes the multimeasure excessively wide and actually steals space from a following MM rest. Ah, that seems to be a bug. I fixed it partially in 2.0 CVS. For the moment, you might want to put the "allegro" atop the 72 \mark. Excellent! Thanks, Paul ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-measure rests again again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > > >Added this to the doco: > > > >If you want to have a text on the left end of a multi-measure rest, > >attach the text to a zero-length skip note, i.e. > > > >@example > > s1*0^"Allegro" > > R1*4 > >@end example > > > This makes the multimeasure excessively wide and actually steals space > from a following MM rest. Ah, that seems to be a bug. I fixed it partially in 2.0 CVS. For the moment, you might want to put the "allegro" atop the 72 \mark. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multi-measure rests again again
Paul Scott wrote:
(Lily 1.8.1 on Debian unstable)
This makes the multimeasure excessively wide and actually steals space
from a following MM rest.
Paul
\score {
<
\property Score.skipBars = ##t
\context Staff = clarinet <
{
\notes {
\time 3/4 \mark "72"
< s1^\markup{ Largo } R4*3*11 >
\mark "73" R4*3*11 \mark "74" R4*3*2
d'2\pp\fermata r4 \bar "||"
}
}
>
>
\paper {}
}
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Re: Multi-measure rests again again
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
Added this to the doco:
If you want to have a text on the left end of a multi-measure rest,
attach the text to a zero-length skip note, i.e.
@example
s1*0^"Allegro"
R1*4
@end example
This makes the multimeasure excessively wide and actually steals space
from a following MM rest.
Paul
\score {
<
\property Score.skipBars = ##t
\context Staff = clarinet <
{
\notes {
\time 3/4 \mark "72"
< s1^\markup{ Largo } R4*3*11 >
\mark "73" R4*3*11 \mark "74" R4*3*2
d'2\pp\fermata r4 \bar "||"
}
}
>
>
\paper {}
}
mmtest2.ps
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RE: Multi-measure rests again again
That's funky!
Thanks, I'll give it a try!
Ralph
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From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2003 10:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ralph Little; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multi-measure rests again again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Ralph Little wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >Looking through the archives, there seems to be a lot of issues relating
to
> >attaching text markup to MultiMeasure rests.
> >One general solutions seems to be along the lines of
> >
> >
> >
> >...or somesuch.
> >
> >I'm running 1.8.2 now.
> >What's the recommended way of attaching text to multi-measure rests now?
> >Is there a better way?
> >
> The answer should be R1*2^\markup{ Allegro } but the markup hides the
> measure count. I am waiting for a comment on that problem.
Added this to the doco:
If you want to have a text on the left end of a multi-measure rest,
attach the text to a zero-length skip note, i.e.
@example
s1*0^"Allegro"
R1*4
@end example
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RE: Multi-measure rests again again
Hi,
This is exactly the issue that I am having!
Same goes for:
R1*2_\markup{ Allegro }
..I guess.
Regards,
Ralph
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Subject: Re: Multi-measure rests again again
Ralph Little wrote:
>Hi
>Looking through the archives, there seems to be a lot of issues relating to
>attaching text markup to MultiMeasure rests.
>One general solutions seems to be along the lines of
>
>
>
>...or somesuch.
>
>I'm running 1.8.2 now.
>What's the recommended way of attaching text to multi-measure rests now?
>Is there a better way?
>
The answer should be R1*2^\markup{ Allegro } but the markup hides the
measure count. I am waiting for a comment on that problem.
Paul Scott
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> Ralph Little wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >Looking through the archives, there seems to be a lot of issues relating to
> >attaching text markup to MultiMeasure rests.
> >One general solutions seems to be along the lines of
> >
> >
> >
> >...or somesuch.
> >
> >I'm running 1.8.2 now.
> >What's the recommended way of attaching text to multi-measure rests now?
> >Is there a better way?
> >
> The answer should be R1*2^\markup{ Allegro } but the markup hides the
> measure count. I am waiting for a comment on that problem.
Added this to the doco:
If you want to have a text on the left end of a multi-measure rest,
attach the text to a zero-length skip note, i.e.
@example
s1*0^"Allegro"
R1*4
@end example
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Ralph Little wrote:
Hi
Looking through the archives, there seems to be a lot of issues relating to
attaching text markup to MultiMeasure rests.
One general solutions seems to be along the lines of
...or somesuch.
I'm running 1.8.2 now.
What's the recommended way of attaching text to multi-measure rests now?
Is there a better way?
The answer should be R1*2^\markup{ Allegro } but the markup hides the
measure count. I am waiting for a comment on that problem.
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Hi Looking through the archives, there seems to be a lot of issues relating to attaching text markup to MultiMeasure rests. One general solutions seems to be along the lines of ...or somesuch. I'm running 1.8.2 now. What's the recommended way of attaching text to multi-measure rests now? Is there a better way? Cheers (in advance), Ralph -- Our communications with you matter to us. This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are sent on the basis of our copyright, e-mail and security policy which can be inspected by visiting http://www.tribaldata.co.uk/contact_index.asp. and clicking on the print friendly link. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you. -- ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: text markup for long multi-measure rests
Yes, I'm aware of that workaround. I'm trying to use it now, but the results are rather less-than-satisfactory. Including a time on the 's' separates the measure with the textscript from the rest of the multi-measure rest. < R1*18 s1_"Allegro" > Omitting the time on the 's' makes the textscript appear under the entire multi-measure rest, which is exactly what is wanted. However it can also cause very severe horizontal spacing problems, beginning on the line of the rest, and continuing to the end of the score. (I can send an example of this, if anyone is interested.) < R1*18 s_"Allegro" > So I wonder why the effort to add textscripts to multi-measures rests if they only work with single-measure multi-measure rests, and the < R s > workaround already provides more (although somewhat flawed) funtionality? ~ John Williams On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Graham Percival wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:13:17 -0700 (MST) > John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How to I attach text markup to long multi-measure rests? > > You do a quick search in the mailist archives, at: > http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/ > > and find this thread: > http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2002-11/msg00155.html > > - Graham > ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:13:17 -0700 (MST) John Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How to I attach text markup to long multi-measure rests? You do a quick search in the mailist archives, at: http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/ and find this thread: http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2002-11/msg00155.html - Graham ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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How to I attach text markup to long multi-measure rests? I've looked at multi-measure-rest-text.ly, but it only contains examples for *single-measure* multi-measure rests. I want to do something like this: \property Score.skipBars = ##t R2.*20_"Tacet" Perhaps something like that should be added to multi-measure-rest-text.ly. ~ John Williams ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Modifying multi-measure rests
I have made some source patches against multi-measure-rest-engraver.cc and
multi-measure-rest.cc to modify the rest used to represent 1 measure in a
multi-measure rest. It uses the value of the measureLength property to
determine if it should use a whole or breve rest. If the length of the
a measure is a breve or more, it uses a breve. Otherwise it uses a whole
rest like it normally does. I am including patches against both 1.6.5 and
1.7.2 as well as mmrest_test.ly which shows the behaviour. I would
appreciate
any feedback you might have on these changes.
One other question. In measure 206, the dotted whole rest places the dot
in the space above the rest. This is how lilypond typeset this before I
made any changes. Is this the desired result? Shouldn't the dot be in
the space next to the rest?
Thanks
Kim
Kim Shrier wrote:
> Hello,
>I am new to LilyPond and I have a question about the best way to
> approach
> a problem. I am typesetting some music and the time signature is 4/2. I
> would like to modify the behaviour of multi-measure rests to use a breve
> rest to represent 1 measure instead of a whole rest since the duration of
> 1 measure is a breve. I have looked at the church_rest method in
> multi-measure-rest.cc and I think I see how to modify it as well as the
> symbol_molecule method. I would also have to define a parameter to get
> the information to these methods so they would know whether they were
> using
> a whole or breve rest as their base. This seems like a lot of work.
>
> Since one of the nice things about LilyPond is how flexible it is and you
> have hooks to get at almost everything, I was wondering if there is a
> better
> way to approach this problem. As I said earlier, I am new to LilyPond
> and
> I don't have a good feel for what is possible without modifying the
> source.
>
> Thanks,
> Kim
>
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--- lily/multi-measure-rest-engraver.cc.origSun Aug 4 11:56:18 2002
+++ lily/multi-measure-rest-engraver.cc Wed Oct 9 10:19:02 2002
@@ -162,6 +162,9 @@
int cur = gh_scm2int (get_property ("currentBarNumber"));
lastrest_->set_grob_property ("measure-count",
gh_int2scm (cur - start_measure_));
+ SCM sml = get_property ("measureLength");
+ lastrest_->set_grob_property ("measure-length", sml);
+
mmrest_ = 0;
}
}
@@ -178,9 +181,10 @@
ENTER_DESCRIPTION(Multi_measure_rest_engraver,
/* descr */ "Engraves multi-measure rests that are produced with @code{R}.
Reads
-measurePosition and currentBarNumber to determine what number to print over the
MultiMeasureRest
+measurePosition and currentBarNumber to determine what number to print over the
+MultiMeasureRest.
+Reads measureLength to determine if it should use a whole rest or a breve rest to
+represent 1 measure
",
/* creats*/ "MultiMeasureRest",
/* acks */ "",
-/* reads */ "currentBarNumber currentCommandColumn measurePosition",
+/* reads */ "currentBarNumber currentCommandColumn measurePosition
+measureLength",
/* write */ "");
--- lily/multi-measure-rest.cc.orig Sun Aug 4 11:56:18 2002
+++ lily/multi-measure-rest.cc Wed Oct 9 11:12:00 2002
@@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
#include "rest.hh"
#include "molecule.hh"
#include "misc.hh"
+#include "moment.hh"
#include "spanner.hh"
#include "staff-symbol-referencer.hh"
#include "text-item.hh"
@@ -163,19 +164,33 @@
Font_metric *musfont
= Font_interface::get_font (me,style_chain);
+ SCM sml = me->get_grob_property ("measure-length");
+ Moment ml = (unsmob_moment (sml)) ? *unsmob_moment (sml) : Moment (0);
+
if (measures == 1)
{
- Molecule s = musfont->find_by_name (Rest::glyph_name (me, 0, ""));
+ if (ml.main_part_ < Rational (2))
+ {
+ Molecule s = musfont->find_by_name (Rest::glyph_name (me, 0, ""));
- /*
- ugh.
- */
- if (Staff_symbol_referencer::get_position (me) == 0.0)
- s.translate_axis (staff_space, Y_AXIS);
+ /*
+ ugh.
+ */
+ if (Staff_symbol_referencer::get_position (me) == 0.0)
+ s.translate_axis (staff_space, Y_AXIS);
+
+ s.translate_axis ((space - s.extent (X_AXIS).length ())/2, X_AXIS);
+
+ return s ;
+ }
+ else
+ {
+ Molecule s = musfont->find_by_name (Rest::glyph_name (me, -1, ""));
- s.translate_axis ((sp
Modifying multi-measure rests
Hello, I am new to LilyPond and I have a question about the best way to approach a problem. I am typesetting some music and the time signature is 4/2. I would like to modify the behaviour of multi-measure rests to use a breve rest to represent 1 measure instead of a whole rest since the duration of 1 measure is a breve. I have looked at the church_rest method in multi-measure-rest.cc and I think I see how to modify it as well as the symbol_molecule method. I would also have to define a parameter to get the information to these methods so they would know whether they were using a whole or breve rest as their base. This seems like a lot of work. Since one of the nice things about LilyPond is how flexible it is and you have hooks to get at almost everything, I was wondering if there is a better way to approach this problem. As I said earlier, I am new to LilyPond and I don't have a good feel for what is possible without modifying the source. Thanks, Kim -- Kim Shrier - principal, Shrier and Deihl - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Remote Unix Network Admin, Security, Internet Software Development Tinker Internet Services - Superior FreeBSD-based Web Hosting http://www.tinker.com/ ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: multi-measure rests
The bad news: you have hit a bug, Lilypond doesn't understand that
the multi-measure rests need a certain minimal width.
The good news: as soon as you add a couple of more bars of music,
Lilypond will break the music into several lines and you won't
suffer from the problem any more.
The easiest solution for you (if your piece isn't longer than this)
is to add a line break manually. Just insert a \break where you
want the first line to end.
The next time you send a question, don't forget to tell what
Lilypond version you use.
/Mats
> The manual gives something like this for multi-measure rests. It works
> if I don't try the 5 bar rest before '\mark "1"'. With that rest
> included I get everything on one line. I tried various combinations of
> turning Score.skipBars on and off with no success.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul Scott
>
>
> \score {
> \notes {
> \relative c'' {
> \time 2/4 {
> \property Score.skipBars = ##t R2*4
> r8 b4\p ( c8~)c a-. f-. d-. b-. r8 r4
> R2*5
> \mark "1"
> r2 r8 b'\p~b16 g-. g-. e-. c8-. r8 r4
> r8 d'8~d16 b-. b-. g-. e8-. r4.
> R2*5
> r8 c'8 ( b16 a g f e8 g f16 e d ) e c4 () d c () d
> }
> }
> }
>\paper {
> indent = 0.4 \in
>}
> }
>
>
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multi-measure rests
The manual gives something like this for multi-measure rests. It works
if I don't try the 5 bar rest before '\mark "1"'. With that rest
included I get everything on one line. I tried various combinations of
turning Score.skipBars on and off with no success.
Any ideas?
TIA,
Paul Scott
\score {
\notes {
\relative c'' {
\time 2/4 {
\property Score.skipBars = ##t R2*4
r8 b4\p ( c8~)c a-. f-. d-. b-. r8 r4
R2*5
\mark "1"
r2 r8 b'\p~b16 g-. g-. e-. c8-. r8 r4
r8 d'8~d16 b-. b-. g-. e8-. r4.
R2*5
r8 c'8 ( b16 a g f e8 g f16 e d ) e c4 () d c () d
}
}
}
\paper {
indent = 0.4 \in
}
}
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Re: Multi-measure rests
This is a known limitation. The workaround could be used in most
situations, but if you for example want a fermata centered exactly
above the rest, it's extremely clumsy.
This fairly high on my wish list for new features.
/Mats
> It doesn't seem to be possible to attach articulations to multi-measure
> rests.
> Is this by design? Although it is possible to work around this by using
> skips.
>
> \score {
> \notes {
> \time 3/4
> R2.^"Allegro" | | r2.^"Allegro"
> }
> }
>
>
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Multi-measure rests
It doesn't seem to be possible to attach articulations to multi-measure
rests.
Is this by design? Although it is possible to work around this by using
skips.
\score {
\notes {
\time 3/4
R2.^"Allegro" | | r2.^"Allegro"
}
}
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Re: Minimum length of multi-measure rests?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I tried to increase the minimum length of multi-measure > > > rests, but the minimum-length property doesn't work as > > > I expected. How to do it? Bug? > > > > See Multi_measure_rest::set_spacing_rods (). > > Hmm, especially the first line of that function is > interesting! :) :) > Any objections if I change to Spanner::set_spacing_rods > also for MultiMeasureRest and PercentRepeat? I tried it > and it seems to work well. I would adapt Multi_measure_rest::set_spacing_rods() to function again. If you use Spanner::set_spacing_rods(), you have to adjust minimum-width for the width of prefatory matter (i.e. keysigs and the like). -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.cs.uu.nl/~hanwen/ ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I tried to increase the minimum length of multi-measure > > rests, but the minimum-length property doesn't work as > > I expected. How to do it? Bug? > > See Multi_measure_rest::set_spacing_rods (). Hmm, especially the first line of that function is interesting! :) Any objections if I change to Spanner::set_spacing_rods also for MultiMeasureRest and PercentRepeat? I tried it and it seems to work well. /Mats ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Minimum length of multi-measure rests?
I tried to increase the minimum length of multi-measure
rests, but the minimum-length property doesn't work as
I expected. How to do it? Bug?
Example:
\score{\notes\relative c'{
c1 R1*12 c1 }
\paper{
linewidth = -1.
\translator{
\ScoreContext
skipBars = ##t
% Why doesn't this work?
MultiMeasureRest \override #'minimum-length = #60
}
}
}
/Mats
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Re: multi measure rests
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 21:23, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > The only problem with your attempt it that you changed the > padding of text scripts, but not of the multi-measure rests or > rehearsal marks that you wanted to affect. > Try > \property Staff.MultiMeasureRest \override #'padding = #3 > or > \property Staff.MultiMeasureRest \override #'padding = #3 thanks. i didn't know that rehearsal marks are viewed internally as a different type of text. i got it working now. thankyou again, simon. -- Confucius say, man who live in glass house shower in basement. ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: multi measure rests
The only problem with your attempt it that you changed the padding of text scripts, but not of the multi-measure rests or rehearsal marks that you wanted to affect. Try \property Staff.MultiMeasureRest \override #'padding = #3 or \property Staff.MultiMeasureRest \override #'padding = #3 /Mats > hi all, > > how can i tweak the depiction of multi-measure rests? i need to change > the position of the numbers. > > enclosed a file that should show my problem. it's been cut and pasted > from an arrangement of the hornpipe from the water music that i was > working on, and should show my problem. > > this problem is also related to a problem mentioned earlier on the list, > namely text above staves, but none of the tips or tricks given helped me > (as can be seen in the \score part of the enclosed file). if anybody can > give me any tips for solving this problem, i'd be very grateful. if > somebody knows of a way to right-justify text to the following bar line, > then that would be very helpful too (for FINE and Da Capo markings for > instance). ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
multi measure rests
hi all,
how can i tweak the depiction of multi-measure rests? i need to change
the position of the numbers.
enclosed a file that should show my problem. it's been cut and pasted
from an arrangement of the hornpipe from the water music that i was
working on, and should show my problem.
this problem is also related to a problem mentioned earlier on the list,
namely text above staves, but none of the tips or tricks given helped me
(as can be seen in the \score part of the enclosed file). if anybody can
give me any tips for solving this problem, i'd be very grateful. if
somebody knows of a way to right-justify text to the following bar line,
then that would be very helpful too (for FINE and Da Capo markings for
instance).
thanx for any help,
greetings, simon.
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% Wassermusik von Georg Friedrich Händel
% Arr. by Simon Bailey, 12/06/2002
% Quartet for 2 Trumpets and 2 Trombones
% Kettle Drum
% for german pitch names...
\include "deutsch.ly"
% \include "globals.ly"
% content of globals.ly file follows:
\header {
title = "Wassermusik"
subtitle = "Alla Hornpipe"
composer = "Georg Friedrich Händel"
arranger = "Arr: S. Bailey"
tagline = "Bearbeitet von S. Bailey, 12.06.2002"
}
global = {
\time 3/2
\skip 2*116 \mark #'(roman (columns(" " "FINE")))
\skip 2*1 \bar ":|"
\skip 2*104 \mark #'(bold (roman "Da capo al Fine"))
\skip 2*1 \bar "|."
}
Key = \notes \key c \major
% END OF globals.ly
pauke = \notes \relative c' {
c2 c g'
c,4 c2 g'4 c, c
g' g2 g4 c, c
g' g2 g4 c, c
g' g2 r4 r2 % 5
R1.*1
r2 r4 c, c c
c2 r4 c c c
g'2. g4 c,2
c g' g% 10
c, r1
R1.*6 % 12 - 17
r2 r4 c c c
c2 r4 c c c
g'2 c, r % 20
R1.*1
r2 r4 c c c
c2 r1
R1.*7 % 24 - 30
r2 r4 c c c
c2 r4 c c c
g'2. g4 c,2
c g' g
c, r4 c c c % 35
c2 r4 c c c
g'2. g4 c,2
c g' g
c,1. % 39 FINE
R1.*35% 40 - 74 D.C al FINE
}
\score {
\context Staff <
\property Score.skipBars = ##t
\property Staff.TextScript \override #'padding = #20
\global
\pauke
>
\header {
instrument = "Pauke in C + G"
}
}
