Re: papersize problem
On Friday 19 September 2003 05:37 am, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Would you expect a ledger paper to be used mainly in landscape or Rename "ledger" to "ledger-tabloid". Is there some reason for not having ledger-[portrait] and ledger-landscape? You can add them and also "legal-tabloid" later and not have to rename stuff again. "legal-tabloid" is nice. It doesn't fall off the stand, and a lot more printers can do it. Why not other sizes two up also? daveA -- Why should any country entrust its young people to the leadership of the same geniuses who *invaded the wrong country*? Answer: Money. The U.S. is broke, and stiffed Gulf War "partners". *U.S.* troops and vets *don't* trust Bush. D. Raleigh Arnold dra@ http://www.openguitar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: papersize problem
yes, AFAIK common usage is "tabloid" for portrait (11x17) and "ledger" for landscape (17x11). since portrait is probably more generally useful, i would suggest switching 'ledger' to 'tabloid', and maintaining portrait orientation. of course, having both options available would be even better! :) -p Mats Bengtsson wrote: The simple reason is that the ly2dvi script doesn't know about the legal and ledger paper sizes. I just tried to add the support but ran into a small problem; Would you expect a ledger paper to be used mainly in landscape or in portrait orientation? It turns out that dvips (that we use to convert .dvi to .ps files) expects ledger paper to be 17inch wide and 11inch high, i.e. in landscape orientation. Dvips uses 'tabloid' to denote 17'x11' paper used in portrait orientation. The same naming convention is described, for example, in http://groups.google.com/groups?q=paper+sizes+tabloid&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=1995Jun8.104533.18767%40sei.cmu.edu&rnum=1 What do you think, should we rename 'ledger' to 'tabloid' or change the definitions in ledger-init.ly to correspond to landscape orientation? /Mats Peter Lutek wrote: greetings! on my installation of lilypond (1.8.0 on RedHat9), if i attempt to use papersize = "legal" or papersize = "ledger", i get an ly2dvi warning saying "legal" or "ledger" is an invalid value. "letter", "a3", and "a4" are all ok. ledger-init.ly , legal-init.ly , a3-init.ly , a4-init.ly , and letter-init.ly all exist and appear to have the same syntax. why do two of these size definitions not work? -p ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: papersize problem
You will still have support for both, since tabloid+landscape=ledger. /Mats Laura Conrad wrote: "Mats" == Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mats> Would you expect a ledger paper to be used mainly in landscape or Mats> in portrait orientation? It turns out that dvips (that we use to Mats> convert .dvi to .ps files) expects ledger paper to be 17inch wide Mats> and 11inch high, i.e. in landscape orientation. Dvips uses 'tabloid' Mats> to denote 17'x11' paper used in portrait orientation. I think there's a case for both -- the usual way to use ledger would be to put letter pages two-up in booklet order, since it would be a pretty long line of music to read. I've thought about using tabloid to do the dowland part songs one to a spread. Legal is closer to the size Dowland's printer used, but it's enough smaller to be a problem. -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: papersize problem
> "Mats" == Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mats> Would you expect a ledger paper to be used mainly in landscape or Mats> in portrait orientation? It turns out that dvips (that we use to Mats> convert .dvi to .ps files) expects ledger paper to be 17inch wide Mats> and 11inch high, i.e. in landscape orientation. Dvips uses 'tabloid' Mats> to denote 17'x11' paper used in portrait orientation. I think there's a case for both -- the usual way to use ledger would be to put letter pages two-up in booklet order, since it would be a pretty long line of music to read. I've thought about using tabloid to do the dowland part songs one to a spread. Legal is closer to the size Dowland's printer used, but it's enough smaller to be a problem. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (801) 365-6574 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: papersize problem
The simple reason is that the ly2dvi script doesn't know about the legal and ledger paper sizes. I just tried to add the support but ran into a small problem; Would you expect a ledger paper to be used mainly in landscape or in portrait orientation? It turns out that dvips (that we use to convert .dvi to .ps files) expects ledger paper to be 17inch wide and 11inch high, i.e. in landscape orientation. Dvips uses 'tabloid' to denote 17'x11' paper used in portrait orientation. The same naming convention is described, for example, in http://groups.google.com/groups?q=paper+sizes+tabloid&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=1995Jun8.104533.18767%40sei.cmu.edu&rnum=1 What do you think, should we rename 'ledger' to 'tabloid' or change the definitions in ledger-init.ly to correspond to landscape orientation? /Mats Peter Lutek wrote: greetings! on my installation of lilypond (1.8.0 on RedHat9), if i attempt to use papersize = "legal" or papersize = "ledger", i get an ly2dvi warning saying "legal" or "ledger" is an invalid value. "letter", "a3", and "a4" are all ok. ledger-init.ly , legal-init.ly , a3-init.ly , a4-init.ly , and letter-init.ly all exist and appear to have the same syntax. why do two of these size definitions not work? -p ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
papersize problem
greetings! on my installation of lilypond (1.8.0 on RedHat9), if i attempt to use papersize = "legal" or papersize = "ledger", i get an ly2dvi warning saying "legal" or "ledger" is an invalid value. "letter", "a3", and "a4" are all ok. ledger-init.ly , legal-init.ly , a3-init.ly , a4-init.ly , and letter-init.ly all exist and appear to have the same syntax. why do two of these size definitions not work? -p ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
