Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Vicente Solsona

So in the future it may become possible to drag a note to a different
octave, or to draw slurs between notes by dragging, or to right-click
a slur and select "Down" or "Dashed" or whatever. All without needing
any change to LilyPond itself.



if you allow me to make a feature request, the slur tweaking and the object
moving tools in lilypondtool are very useful timesavers. it would be really
cool to have such features in frescobaldi.

besides that, many thanks and congratulations for creating such a neat  
tool.
now that it's cross-platform, it can become THE lilypond editor for a lot  
of

people.

--
greetings,

Vicente


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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Francisco Vila  wrote:
> 2011/9/27 Wilbert Berendsen :
>> Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:38:23 -0400
>> Brett McCoy  schreef:

>> Everything is configurable indeed: Edit->Preferences->Fonts &
>> Colors->Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
>> default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
>> blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).
>>
>> I think I must make the default background color of the PDF preview lighter.
>
> The problem I had finding this setting is that the color rectangles in
> the preferences/fonts+colors dialog are not intialized to the current
> colors, not even after having selected an actual color from the
> palette.  All appear white in my system.

Yep, same here, would be good to get a color preview there.


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it would overturn the world."
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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/9/27 Wilbert Berendsen :
> Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:38:23 -0400
> Brett McCoy  schreef:
>
>> The PDF view is black on light beige and the
>> highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
>> purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
>> I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
>> either (I prefer black on white).
>
> Everything is configurable indeed: Edit->Preferences->Fonts &
> Colors->Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
> default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
> blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).
>
> I think I must make the default background color of the PDF preview lighter.

The problem I had finding this setting is that the color rectangles in
the preferences/fonts+colors dialog are not intialized to the current
colors, not even after having selected an actual color from the
palette.  All appear white in my system.
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www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Wilbert Berendsen  wrote:

>> The PDF view is black on light beige and the
>> highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
>> purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
>> I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
>> either (I prefer black on white).
>
> Everything is configurable indeed: Edit->Preferences->Fonts &
> Colors->Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
> default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
> blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).

Yep, I found it, perfect!

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it would overturn the world."
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Re: [Frescobaldi] Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:38:23 -0400
Brett McCoy  schreef:

> The PDF view is black on light beige and the
> highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
> purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
> I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
> either (I prefer black on white).

Everything is configurable indeed: Edit->Preferences->Fonts &
Colors->Preview Background and Preview Highlight. But the latter is by
default derived from the current UI-style's selection color (which is
blue on many systems, but can also be of a different color.).

I think I must make the default background color of the PDF preview lighter.

kind regards!
-- 
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(http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl)


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Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
Never mind I found it!

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Brett McCoy  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Wilbert Berendsen  wrote:
>
>> Frescobaldi 2 couples the point-and-click links as soon as a PDF is
>> loaded to positions in the text document. If you alter the document, the
>> links in the PDF document stay connected with the positions in the
>> text document.
>
> One suggestion I have is to make the highlight box contrast better
> with the background. The PDF view is black on light beige and the
> highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
> purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
> I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
> either (I prefer black on white).
>
> --
> Brett W. McCoy -- http://www.electricminstrel.com
> 
> "In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
> it would overturn the world."
>     -- Jelaleddin Rumi
>



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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
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Re: point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Brett McCoy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Wilbert Berendsen  wrote:

> Frescobaldi 2 couples the point-and-click links as soon as a PDF is
> loaded to positions in the text document. If you alter the document, the
> links in the PDF document stay connected with the positions in the
> text document.

One suggestion I have is to make the highlight box contrast better
with the background. The PDF view is black on light beige and the
highlight is a slightly darker beige. Something more obvious like
purple or green would make it more prominent. Or is this configurable?
I didn't see any way to change the background color of the PDF view
either (I prefer black on white).

-- 
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"In the rhythm of music a secret is hidden; If I were to divulge it,
it would overturn the world."
    -- Jelaleddin Rumi

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point and click (was: Alpha-release of Frescobaldi 2.0)

2011-09-27 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:46:01 +0200
Urs Liska  schreef:

> And (according to the release notes) it still works after you have 
> changed the source code (the links lilypond attach to the objects
> point to specific line numbers, and if the code is changed they point
> to the wrong place.

Frescobaldi 2 couples the point-and-click links as soon as a PDF is
loaded to positions in the text document. If you alter the document, the
links in the PDF document stay connected with the positions in the
text document.

Frescobaldi 2 can also find objects in the PDF: if you walk with the
text cursor or select text, the corresponding objects in the PDF are
highlighted. If you press Ctrl+J, the PDF scrolls to the page where the
music at the text cursor is at.

This paves the way to more interesting capabilities, as Frescobaldi
knows what type of object a clickable link in the PDF represents (a
note, rest, slur, articulation, rehearsalmark, etc) because it
continuously parses the text as it is entered or modified. The parsed
tokens are stored, so lookup what kind of object is at some cursor
position is very fast.

(You can see this e.g. when you hover a slur in the music, Frescobaldi
highlights not only the start parenthesis of the slur in the text but
also the ending one.)

So in the future it may become possible to drag a note to a different
octave, or to draw slurs between notes by dragging, or to right-click
a slur and select "Down" or "Dashed" or whatever. All without needing
any change to LilyPond itself.

best,
Wilbert

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