Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
Nick Payne wrote: On Linux you can use psbook, psnup, and pstops for booklet printing. If you Google those terms you'll find numerous pages showing the commands and parameters needed. On Linux just install the newest pdfjam-package (2.x). It contains pdfbook which can do that job with only one application. Ole ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
Hi,
Here's the Latex source I use for such situation:
The booklet has to be done manually.
\documentclass[a4paper,landscape]{article}
\paperwidth=420mm
\paperheight=297mm
\pdfpagewidth=\paperwidth
\pdfpageheight=\paperheight
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[pages={2,1},nup=2x1,fitpaper=false,trim=0 0 0 0,delta=0
0,offset=0
0,scale=1.0,turn=true,noautoscale=true,column=false,columnstrict=false,openright=false]{cover.pdf}
\includepdf[pages={16,1,2,15,14,3,4,13,12,5,6,11,10,7,8,9},nup=2x1,fitpaper=false,trim=0
0 0 0,delta=0 0,offset=0
0,scale=1.0,turn=true,noautoscale=true,column=false,columnstrict=false,openright=false]{inside.pdf}
\end{document}
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printing A4 pages on A3 paper
Hi, in a print shop I was told that they couldn't directly print my A4 .pdf to A3 paper - using Adobe Reader - because in the pdf pages are linked two by two (I guess they meant to say twoside). So they had to first print on A4 sheets and then use them to print on A3 paper. Frankly speaking, I'm quite sure they are wrong and the problem is not my pdf settings. I compiled the book using the Publish button of Frescobaldi (lilypond -dno-point-and-click) and \paper does not contain anything that changes default paper settings. Anyway, I missed an argument to reply to them :) Can you give me a piece of advice? I just want to be sure that my pdf is ok and understand why the shop failed to print directly to A3. Thanks, Federico ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
On 2010-12-19 13:03, Federico Bruni wrote: Hi, in a print shop I was told that they couldn't directly print my A4 .pdf to A3 paper - using Adobe Reader - because in the pdf pages are linked two by two (I guess they meant to say twoside). [...] I just want to be sure that my pdf is ok and understand why the shop failed to print directly to A3. Be sure, but probably that doesn't buy you anything. When I take files to the local copy shop, I usually have to different flavours. Which one to choose depends on the guy behind the counter. One file (for the older guy) is plain A4 pdf, without any fancy things. Just as Lily spits them out. The senior clicks on print to brochure, and I get A3 double-page, already stapled if I choose so - the printer does everything by itself. Perfect approach, since each self-respecting printer company for these high 4- or low 5-digits range priced machines has this option in the driver. His son (who actually is the shop owner) insists to claim that this method doesn't work, so I open the (USB stick) hat and present a pdfnup-ped 2 on 1, A3 landscape file. He clicks on print, fold and staple or something, and I get what I want. Usually after two or three corrections, that is - since he can't remember the correct page rotations in landscape, someone choosed scale to A4 just before, he chose the wrong paper tray. But he doesn't want the misprint to be paid, so it doesn't really matter to me. IMHO, it doesn't make any sense to manually prepare the 2-on-1 version when the printer driver offers just this option [*]. It's more work, and if the printer company added some tweaks for the very machine if necessary, you'll lose them. (Although I don't think this is an issue; the only feature I can imagine here is a binding offset.) And even if it's not in the driver, the later Adobe Reader versions have this brochure print option. [*] Unless you do really fancy layouts, beyond what LilyPond offers. Say, cross-margin pictures or something. But you'll probably choose a serious print agency then, and they'll give you support on the right file format, and be able to handle conversions gracefully. Cheers, Alexander ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
I was dealing with a very similar situation recently. I wanted to find out how to make an A5 sized booklet and print it myself on A4 paper. There is a very small program (probably just a GS wrapper) called 'pdfbook' which allows you to rearrange the pages in a PDF. With the right options I was able to re-order the pages and assign two A5's to one A4 page. This left me with an almost usable file. With a second pass on this output with 'pdftk' I re-shuffled the pages so that I could print the first half of the book, then take those pages and put then through the printer again and print the other pages. This was then ready for folding/stapling. It should be quite easy the prepare your PDF in this fashion prior to taking it to the print shop. Hope this helps, David - Original Message - From: Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:03:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: printing A4 pages on A3 paper Hi, in a print shop I was told that they couldn't directly print my A4 .pdf to A3 paper - using Adobe Reader - because in the pdf pages are linked two by two (I guess they meant to say twoside). So they had to first print on A4 sheets and then use them to print on A3 paper. Frankly speaking, I'm quite sure they are wrong and the problem is not my pdf settings. I compiled the book using the Publish button of Frescobaldi (lilypond -dno-point-and-click) and \paper does not contain anything that changes default paper settings. Anyway, I missed an argument to reply to them :) Can you give me a piece of advice? I just want to be sure that my pdf is ok and understand why the shop failed to print directly to A3. Thanks, Federico ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
On 19/12/10 23:03, Federico Bruni wrote: Hi, in a print shop I was told that they couldn't directly print my A4 .pdf to A3 paper - using Adobe Reader - because in the pdf pages are linked two by two (I guess they meant to say twoside). So they had to first print on A4 sheets and then use them to print on A3 paper. Frankly speaking, I'm quite sure they are wrong and the problem is not my pdf settings. I compiled the book using the Publish button of Frescobaldi (lilypond -dno-point-and-click) and \paper does not contain anything that changes default paper settings. Anyway, I missed an argument to reply to them :) Can you give me a piece of advice? I just want to be sure that my pdf is ok and understand why the shop failed to print directly to A3. Adobe Reader has a booklet printing option. I use it frequently to print A4 to A3 and then fold to make an A4 booklet. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
Hello. On 19/12/2010 12:03, Federico Bruni wrote: in a print shop I was told that they couldn't directly print my A4 .pdf to A3 paper - using Adobe Reader - because in the pdf pages are linked two by two (I guess they meant to say twoside). So they had to first print on A4 sheets and then use them to print on A3 paper. I think you are referring to pagination. Default A4 PDF files are Page 1 2 Page 3 4 For example. Here Page 1 is always the cover what you need in your PDF output is Page 4 1 Page 2 3 Like wise On an 8 page PDF Page 8 1 Page 2 7 Page 6 3 Page 4 5 This means you can 'print' your two pages on an A3 page so that when you print on the other side of the A3 page, the two A4 Pages are correct. Also for this you ALWAYS need multiples of 4 pages So for 6 Pages you need Page Blank 1 Page 2 Blank Page 6 3 Page 4 5 You can have 'fold outs' that can remove the blank pages but then you need 3 A4 Pages together and you have some options i.e Page 5 6 1 Page 2 3 4 or Page 6 1 2 Page 3 4 5 and so on If you are NOT just photocopying and using Litho Printers, then it gets more complicated because they will often want to print on larger sheets and so the pagination means that some pages are printed 'upside down' so that when they fold all the sheets together it works. If you are curious (and have 5 minutes and a couple of pieces of A4) then take you A4 sheet, fold it into A5 (fold it along the long edge) now take that A5 and fold it once more along the long edge until you get to an A6 size. Now have that a6 in front of you with the closed edge at the top and to the left hand side so that it looks like a little book. Now simply number the pages 1, 2, 3, 4 .. 8 as if you were trying to read it (leave the closed edge on the top), now fold it all out and you can see how 8 Pages are 'printed' so that you only need one sheet of paper. The printer will then 'trim' the top off so you have two smaller sheet and staple (stitch) the two sheets together so you have your booklet. If you want to see what 16 Pages looks like, repeat the above for another A4 sheet and before you start numbering, put the second folder A4 sheet inside the first and THEN number 1 - 16 and fold it all out. You can see how the numbering works, what pagination the printer needs and which pages are printed upside down. James PS I used to work for an Offset Lithographic printers for many, many years. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
Il giorno lun, 20/12/2010 alle 07.43 +1100, Nick Payne ha scritto: I just want to be sure that my pdf is ok and understand why the shop failed to print directly to A3. Adobe Reader has a booklet printing option. I use it frequently to print A4 to A3 and then fold to make an A4 booklet. Yes, I know.. the problem is: it's quite likely - at least in my little experience - that people working in print shops don't know how to use Adobe Reader. So there are two possible solutions: * creating a pdfnup-ped 2 on 1, A3 landscape file * learning how to use Adobe Reader and teach them :) I'll choose the second. As my printer can't print A3, I'll practice with A5 pages in A4 booklet. So: lilypond -dno-point-and-click -dpaper-size=\a5\ file.ly Now I'm testing the Page Scaling Booklet Printing option, but I can't say if it's working because duplex is not working now. I guess it's a driver problem (I'm using hplip on linux). I'll try to solve it and test it again.. Cheers, Federico ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: printing A4 pages on A3 paper
On 20/12/10 09:44, Federico Bruni wrote: Il giorno lun, 20/12/2010 alle 07.43 +1100, Nick Payne ha scritto: I just want to be sure that my pdf is ok and understand why the shop failed to print directly to A3. Adobe Reader has a booklet printing option. I use it frequently to print A4 to A3 and then fold to make an A4 booklet. Yes, I know.. the problem is: it's quite likely - at least in my little experience - that people working in print shops don't know how to use Adobe Reader. So there are two possible solutions: * creating a pdfnup-ped 2 on 1, A3 landscape file * learning how to use Adobe Reader and teach them :) I'll choose the second. As my printer can't print A3, I'll practice with A5 pages in A4 booklet. So: lilypond -dno-point-and-click -dpaper-size=\a5\ file.ly Now I'm testing the Page Scaling Booklet Printing option, but I can't say if it's working because duplex is not working now. I guess it's a driver problem (I'm using hplip on linux). I'll try to solve it and test it again On Windows there's a shareware program called BookletCreator that will rearrange the pages in a PDF for you to print as a booklet, and also optionally change the output page size (eg A4 input to A3 bookleted output). On Linux you can use psbook, psnup, and pstops for booklet printing. If you Google those terms you'll find numerous pages showing the commands and parameters needed. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
