Re: quotation marks in lyricmode

2012-04-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
 Any hints possible on how to achieve quotation marks in lyrics? Preferrably
 the language specific (German) versions.

ordinary quotation marks should be preceded with backslashes and
included inside external quotation marks:

{ b }
\addlyrics {
  \quote\
}

to have other quotation marks, simply take advantage of Unicode
encoding - unicode recognizes several different types of quotation
marks and treats them as different characters.  The only problem is to
get them, since pressing  key on the keyboard gives the  character,
not one of the other quotations.  I usually work around this by
pasting from a word processor or, for example, wikipedia
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anf%C3%BChrungszeichen):

{ b }
\addlyrics {
  „modal“
}

(i don't know if the e-mail won't distort the encoding, but when i use
the code which i pasted above i get german quotation marks in Lily
output)

cheers,
Janek

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Re: quotation marks in lyricmode

2012-04-26 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Urs Liska li...@ursliska.de wrote:
 Any hints possible on how to achieve quotation marks in lyrics? Preferrably
 the language specific (German) versions.

 ordinary quotation marks should be preceded with backslashes and
 included inside external quotation marks:

 { b }
 \addlyrics {
   \quote\
 }

 to have other quotation marks, simply take advantage of Unicode
 encoding - unicode recognizes several different types of quotation
 marks and treats them as different characters.  The only problem is to
 get them, since pressing  key on the keyboard gives the  character,
 not one of the other quotations.  I usually work around this by
 pasting from a word processor or, for example, wikipedia
 (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anf%C3%BChrungszeichen):

 { b }
 \addlyrics {
   „modal“
 }

 (i don't know if the e-mail won't distort the encoding, but when i use
 the code which i pasted above i get german quotation marks in Lily
 output)

If you are working on a typical X terminal, you might use Multi-key (I
configured it to be Shift-AltGr) followed by , to get „ and by  to
get ” and by  to get “.  In the same vein, you can use ', for ‚ and '
for ‘ and ' for ’.  And, of course  for » and  for «.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: quotation marks in lyricmode

2012-04-26 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt

This is almost, what I just was about to write ...
just another hint: you can also enter any character in a markup with the 
\char command. The codes are 8222 and 8220.
If you want to circumvent \markup \concat { \char #8222 Ich }, you might 
use a music-function, to wrap syllables in quotes.

I have done things like that, if you're interested, I can search for them.

Cheers, Jan-Peter

On 26.04.2012 13:12, Janek Warchoł wrote:

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Urs Liskali...@ursliska.de  wrote:

Any hints possible on how to achieve quotation marks in lyrics? Preferrably
the language specific (German) versions.

ordinary quotation marks should be preceded with backslashes and
included inside external quotation marks:

{ b }
\addlyrics {
   \quote\
}

to have other quotation marks, simply take advantage of Unicode
encoding - unicode recognizes several different types of quotation
marks and treats them as different characters.  The only problem is to
get them, since pressing  key on the keyboard gives the  character,
not one of the other quotations.  I usually work around this by
pasting from a word processor or, for example, wikipedia
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anf%C3%BChrungszeichen):

{ b }
\addlyrics {
   „modal“
}

(i don't know if the e-mail won't distort the encoding, but when i use
the code which i pasted above i get german quotation marks in Lily
output)

cheers,
Janek

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Re: quotation marks in lyricmode

2012-04-26 Thread Urs Liska

Thanks to all.
Janek's (simplest) solution just did it.
When I noticed that hitting  doesn't work because it's a special char, 
I didn't think of the (obvious) fact that the other quotation marks 
aren't special but ordinary Unicode characters ...


So copy and paste worked smoothly :-[

Best
Urs

Am 26.04.2012 13:25, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt:

This is almost, what I just was about to write ...
just another hint: you can also enter any character in a markup with 
the \char command. The codes are 8222 and 8220.
If you want to circumvent \markup \concat { \char #8222 Ich }, you 
might use a music-function, to wrap syllables in quotes.
I have done things like that, if you're interested, I can search for 
them.


Cheers, Jan-Peter

On 26.04.2012 13:12, Janek Warchoł wrote:

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Urs Liskali...@ursliska.de  wrote:
Any hints possible on how to achieve quotation marks in lyrics? 
Preferrably

the language specific (German) versions.

ordinary quotation marks should be preceded with backslashes and
included inside external quotation marks:

{ b }
\addlyrics {
   \quote\
}

to have other quotation marks, simply take advantage of Unicode
encoding - unicode recognizes several different types of quotation
marks and treats them as different characters.  The only problem is to
get them, since pressing  key on the keyboard gives the  character,
not one of the other quotations.  I usually work around this by
pasting from a word processor or, for example, wikipedia
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anf%C3%BChrungszeichen):

{ b }
\addlyrics {
   „modal“
}

(i don't know if the e-mail won't distort the encoding, but when i use
the code which i pasted above i get german quotation marks in Lily
output)

cheers,
Janek

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