Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
Dear Thomas,
Thnx so much. It works perfectly! I have been fiddling around with the problem
for over half a year. Really: Thanks a lot. Also to Knute and HTH!
Kai
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Am 5.10.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com:
2014-10-02 20:50 GMT+02:00 Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com:
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir music
and inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices. From the
answers you gave, I could built the following example, which solved a whole
set of problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the
first system? I’m grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI { s1*5 \break \new Voice \ambitus \musicI }
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus { \musicII }
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
Delete Staff in the following command.
You are adding something to the Staff-context-definition here.
LilyPond will be confused by repeating the Staff-context, although you
are in there already.
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
I'm surprised the following works, because noAmbitusAtEnd is defined
for Voice-context
\noAmbitusAtEnd
}
}
}
Though the main problem is that the ambitus appears end-of-line at a
line-break here This adds note-heads to this lines. And as default
this will cause this line alive.
Making them invisible via break-visibility is not enough, they're still there.
You could try to use settings for keep-AliveInterfaces as described here:
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=312
Though, no clue if it will work in real life scores:
\version 2.19.13
keep-AliveInterfaces =
#'(
rhythmic-grob-interface
lyric-interface
stanza-number-interface
percent-repeat-interface
)
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4_second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Staff.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Staff.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI {
\set Staff.keepAliveInterfaces = #'()
s1*5
\break
\set Staff.keepAliveInterfaces = \keep-AliveInterfaces
\new Voice \ambitus
\musicI
}
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus {
\musicII
s1*5
}
\layout {
\noAmbitusAtEnd
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
}
}
}
HTH,
Harm
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Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
Hello Kai,
HTH would sure be one of the most active contributors to this list if he were
one, but it's only an abbreviation for 'hope that helps'... I also had to look
that one up when I first came across it :-)
Yours, Simon
Am 09-Oct-2014 14:21:57 +0200 schrieb kai.lautenschlae...@me.com:
Dear Thomas, Thnx so much. It works perfectly! I have been fiddling around
with the problem for over half a year. Really: Thanks a lot. Also to Knute and
HTH! Kai --- kai.lautenschlae...@me.com
Am 5.10.2014 um 15:30 schrieb Thomas Morley :
2014-10-02 20:50 GMT+02:00 Kai Lautenschläger :
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir music and
inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices. From the answers
you gave, I could built the following example, which solved a whole set of
problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the first
system? I'm grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
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Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
2014-10-02 20:50 GMT+02:00 Kai Lautenschläger kai.lautenschlae...@me.com:
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir music
and inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices. From the
answers you gave, I could built the following example, which solved a whole
set of problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the
first system? I’m grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI { s1*5 \break \new Voice \ambitus \musicI }
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus { \musicII }
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
Delete Staff in the following command.
You are adding something to the Staff-context-definition here.
LilyPond will be confused by repeating the Staff-context, although you
are in there already.
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
I'm surprised the following works, because noAmbitusAtEnd is defined
for Voice-context
\noAmbitusAtEnd
}
}
}
Though the main problem is that the ambitus appears end-of-line at a
line-break here This adds note-heads to this lines. And as default
this will cause this line alive.
Making them invisible via break-visibility is not enough, they're still there.
You could try to use settings for keep-AliveInterfaces as described here:
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=312
Though, no clue if it will work in real life scores:
\version 2.19.13
keep-AliveInterfaces =
#'(
rhythmic-grob-interface
lyric-interface
stanza-number-interface
percent-repeat-interface
)
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4_second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Staff.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Staff.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI {
\set Staff.keepAliveInterfaces = #'()
s1*5
\break
\set Staff.keepAliveInterfaces = \keep-AliveInterfaces
\new Voice \ambitus
\musicI
}
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus {
\musicII
s1*5
}
\layout {
\noAmbitusAtEnd
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
}
}
}
HTH,
Harm
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Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
Hi Knute,
Am 3.10.2014 um 17:21 schrieb Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com:
I'm not sure what you're trying to do. For example, why not one Staff and
Voice?
I try to do the following: I have five voices (v1 - v5) and want to have
ambitus (:) at their first appearance. It should look like this:
———8—SCHNIPP——
Titel etc.
v1:—
v2:—
v3:—
v4:—
v5:—
v1—
v2—
v3—
v4—
v5—
———8—SCHNAPP——
Right now LilyPond is doing exactly what you told it to do: be silent in the
first voice for five measures.
that is true, only that I thought to have asked lilypond to hide/remove the
lines (including the first lines) of voices, that are silent.
My aim is now, to keep everything like in my not-so-tiny example but have the
empty first staff of the silent voice not printed. Am I missing something
simple? Is there a way?
Thanks to much.
Kai
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Kai Lautenschläger
kai.lautenschlae...@me.com wrote:
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir music
and inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices. From the
answers you gave, I could built the following example, which solved a whole
set of problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the
first system? I’m grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI { s1*5 \break \new Voice \ambitus \musicI }
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus { \musicII }
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
\noAmbitusAtEnd
}
}
}
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Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
Hi, I removed the first empty staff from a chorus score, but I don't know
what an ambitus is, nor I found it in behind bars (and I'm just a
beginner). So I don't expect this could be useful, but at least ...
In my scores, that I write whit Musescore and then I export to an xml file
that I import in Frescobaldi, I have a
\layout {
\context {
\Score
.. at the beginning of the file. I succeeded in removing empty staves,
the first also, putting in a \layout that I already found in the file
produced via MuseScore, the following lines, in this exact order:
\layout {
\context {
\Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
}
HTH
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putting in a \layout that I already found in the file produced via MuseScore I forgot to say, at the end of the file. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/remove-first-empty-staff-and-ambitus-tp167066p167139.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: remove first empty staff and ambitus
I'm not sure what you're trying to do. For example, why not one Staff and
Voice? Right now LilyPond is doing exactly what you told it to do: be
silent in the first voice for five measures.
Knute Snortum
(via Gmail)
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Kai Lautenschläger
kai.lautenschlae...@me.com wrote:
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir
music and inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices.
From the answers you gave, I could built the following example, which
solved a whole set of problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the
first system? I’m grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI { s1*5 \break \new Voice \ambitus \musicI }
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus { \musicII }
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
\noAmbitusAtEnd
}
}
}
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remove first empty staff and ambitus
Dear list,
a few weeks ago I asked about removing the first empty staff in choir music and
inserting the ambitus in the n-th system for selected voices. From the answers
you gave, I could built the following example, which solved a whole set of
problems.
Now, can anyone come up with an idea how to remove the upper staff in the first
system? I’m grateful for any hints. Thanks
best regards, Kai
\version 2.19.15
musicI = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c'4^first voice b' c, g' } }
musicII = \relative { \repeat unfold 5 { c''4^second voice b' c, g' } }
ambitus = \with { \consists Ambitus_engraver }
noAmbitusAtEnd = {
\override Voice.AmbitusNoteHead.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
\override Voice.AmbitusLine.break-visibility = ##(#f #f #t)
}
\score {
\new Staff = StaffI
\new Voice = VoiceI { s1*5 \break \new Voice \ambitus \musicI }
\new Staff = StaffII
\new Voice = VoiceII \ambitus { \musicII }
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override Staff.VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
\noAmbitusAtEnd
}
}
}
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