Re: spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-19 Thread Thomas Morley 
2018-01-19 11:40 GMT+01:00 N. Andrew Walsh :
> Update:
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:32 AM, N. Andrew Walsh 
> wrote:
>>
>> Arrgh. I may not have resolved my issue (or, there's something going on
>> here I don't understand).
>>
>> Here's an example:
>> [SNIP]
>>
>>  | %8
>>  d32\( a'16.~ a4.\)
>>
>
> The problem is this measure. When a spanner that starts in a multi-voice
> measure, and ends in a multi-voice measure, has a single-voice measure in
> between, I get the error. When I replace measure 8 with the following:
>
> | %8
>  <<
>{ d32\( a'16.~ a4.\) }
>\\
>{ s2 }
>  >>
>
> … then it works fine. This seems like a bit of an ugly hack, but I suppose
> there's no better way to do this (and there's probably some good reasons why
> it should work like that).
>
> So just to confirm: is this intended behavior?
>
> Cheers,
>
> A



Yes.
Read NR 5.1.3 Keeping contexts alive

Following this leads to:

\new Staff
<<
\context Voice = "1" { s2*10 } %% put in the length of the voices
\context Voice = "2" { s2*10 } %% put in the length of the voices
\relative c'' {
\time 4/8

%1-2
 R2*2

 | %3
 <<
   { a,16\cresc\( d~ d4.\) }
   \\
   { a8~ a4. }
 >>

 | %4
 <<
   { a16\( d f4.\) }
   \\
   { a,8~ a4. }
 >>

 | %5
 <<
   { \tuplet 3/2 { a16\( d f } a4.\) }
   \\
   { a,8~ a4. }
 >>

 | %6
 <<
   { \tuplet 6/4 4 { a16\( d f a d f } a4\!\) }
   \\
   { a,,4~ a }
 >>

 | %7
 <<
   { d''8~\decr d4. }
   \\
   { d16 g,~ g4. }
 >>

 | %8
 d32\( a'16.~ a4.\)

 | %9
 <<
   { a8~ a4.\! }
   \\
   { \tuplet 3/2 { a16 e cis } a4. }
 >>

 | %10
 <<
   { a,16\<\( d~ d4.\!\) }
   \\
   { a8~ a4. }
 >>
}
>>

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-19 Thread N. Andrew Walsh 
Update:

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:32 AM, N. Andrew Walsh 
wrote:

> Arrgh. I may not have resolved my issue (or, there's something going on
> here I don't understand).
>
> Here's an example:
> [SNIP]
>
>  | %8
>  d32\( a'16.~ a4.\)
>
>
The problem is this measure. When a spanner that starts in a multi-voice
measure, and ends in a multi-voice measure, has a single-voice measure in
between, I get the error. When I replace measure 8 with the following:

| %8
 <<
   { d32\( a'16.~ a4.\) }
   \\
   { s2 }
 >>

… then it works fine. This seems like a bit of an ugly hack, but I suppose
there's no better way to do this (and there's probably some good reasons
why it should work like that).

So just to confirm: is this intended behavior?

Cheers,

A
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Re: spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-19 Thread N. Andrew Walsh 
Arrgh. I may not have resolved my issue (or, there's something going on
here I don't understand).

Here's an example:

\version "2.19.80"

\relative c'' {
\time 4/8

%1-2
 R2*2

 | %3
 <<
   { a,16\cresc\( d~ d4.\) }
   \\
   { a8~ a4. }
 >>

 | %4
 <<
   { a16\( d f4.\) }
   \\
   { a,8~ a4. }
 >>

 | %5
 <<
   { \tuplet 3/2 { a16\( d f } a4.\) }
   \\
   { a,8~ a4. }
 >>

 | %6
 <<
   { \tuplet 6/4 4 { a16\( d f a d f } a4\!\) }
   \\
   { a,,4~ a }
 >>

 | %7
 <<
   { d''8~\decr d4. }
   \\
   { d16 g,~ g4. }
 >>

 | %8
 d32\( a'16.~ a4.\)

 | %9
 <<
   { a8~ a4.\! }
   \\
   { \tuplet 3/2 { a16 e cis } a4. }
 >>

 | %10
 <<
   { a,16\<\( d~ d4.\!\) }
   \\
   { a8~ a4. }
 >>
}

Here, the \cresc command creates a dynamic as text without issue (from bar
3 to 6). However, the \decr command, from bar 7 to 10, does not, and I get
the error about an unterminated decrescendo I posted previously.

So what am I doing wrong here?

Cheers,

A


On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:54 PM, N. Andrew Walsh 
wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:44 PM, David Kastrup  wrote:
>
>>
>> How about giving an example actually showing the problem you are talking
>> about?
>>
>> --
>> David Kastrup
>>
>
> Fair enough. And as it turns out, when I add a \! statement later on in
> that voice, the error disappears and it draws a crescendo and decrescendo
> as desired.
>
> Sorry for the noise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> A
>



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Re: spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-18 Thread N. Andrew Walsh 
Hi David,

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:44 PM, David Kastrup  wrote:

>
> How about giving an example actually showing the problem you are talking
> about?
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>

Fair enough. And as it turns out, when I add a \! statement later on in
that voice, the error disappears and it draws a crescendo and decrescendo
as desired.

Sorry for the noise.

Cheers,

A
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Re: spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-18 Thread David Kastrup 
"N. Andrew Walsh"  writes:

> Hi List,
>
> let's say I have the following code:
>
> \relative c'' {
>
> %1
> s2
>
> | %2
> <<
>{ a16\cresc d~ d4. }
>\\
>{ a8~ a4. }
>  >>
> }
>
> Is there a way to have multiple measures of this kind of two-voice
> structure, and each measure contained within its own pair of << >>
> brackets, with one of these multi-measure-long \cresc commands? Or do I
> have to have all the measures over which the \cresc spanner occurs
> contained within one pair of << >> brackets?
>
> When I try the former, I get this:
>
> programming error: Spanner `DynamicTextSpanner' is not fully contained in
> parent spanner.  Ignoring orphaned part
>{ a16
> \cresc d~ d4. }

I get

-*- mode: compilation; default-directory: "/tmp/" -*-
Compilation started at Thu Jan 18 14:43:16

lilypond /tmp/gaga.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.21.0
Processing `/tmp/gaga.ly'
Parsing...
/tmp/gaga.ly:1: warning: no \version statement found, please add

\version "2.21.0"

for future compatibility
Interpreting music...
/tmp/gaga.ly:6:1: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/2

| %2
/tmp/gaga.ly:8:9: warning: unterminated crescendo
   { a16
\cresc d~ d4. }
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `/tmp/lilypond-TOO2Rj'...
Converting to `gaga.pdf'...
Deleting `/tmp/lilypond-TOO2Rj'...
Success: compilation successfully completed

> I was hoping to be able to keep each measure within its own line of
> code, separated with these barcheck and commented measure-number
> marks. Is there a way to do that?

How about giving an example actually showing the problem you are talking
about?

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-18 Thread Edward Neeman 
Hi Andrew,

If you use \new Voice instead of the double backslash syntax, the
first voice in the << >> brackets continues before and after the
simultaneous music.

\relative c'' {

%1
s2

| %2
<<
   { \voiceOne a16\cresc d~ d4. }
   \new Voice
   { \voiceTwo a8~ a4. }
 >>
 \oneVoice a4 b\!
}

Best,
Edward
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Artist Faculty, ELMS Conservatory, Jakarta
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On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 5:29 AM, N. Andrew Walsh
 wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> let's say I have the following code:
>
> \relative c'' {
>
> %1
> s2
>
> | %2
> <<
>{ a16\cresc d~ d4. }
>\\
>{ a8~ a4. }
>  >>
> }
>
> Is there a way to have multiple measures of this kind of two-voice
> structure, and each measure contained within its own pair of << >> brackets,
> with one of these multi-measure-long \cresc commands? Or do I have to have
> all the measures over which the \cresc spanner occurs contained within one
> pair of << >> brackets?
>
> When I try the former, I get this:
>
> programming error: Spanner `DynamicTextSpanner' is not fully contained in
> parent spanner.  Ignoring orphaned part
>{ a16
> \cresc d~ d4. }
>
> I was hoping to be able to keep each measure within its own line of code,
> separated with these barcheck and commented measure-number marks. Is there a
> way to do that?
>
> Cheers,
>
> A
>
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spanners in multi-voice

2018-01-18 Thread N. Andrew Walsh 
Hi List,

let's say I have the following code:

\relative c'' {

%1
s2

| %2
<<
   { a16\cresc d~ d4. }
   \\
   { a8~ a4. }
 >>
}

Is there a way to have multiple measures of this kind of two-voice
structure, and each measure contained within its own pair of << >>
brackets, with one of these multi-measure-long \cresc commands? Or do I
have to have all the measures over which the \cresc spanner occurs
contained within one pair of << >> brackets?

When I try the former, I get this:

programming error: Spanner `DynamicTextSpanner' is not fully contained in
parent spanner.  Ignoring orphaned part
   { a16
\cresc d~ d4. }

I was hoping to be able to keep each measure within its own line of code,
separated with these barcheck and commented measure-number marks. Is there
a way to do that?

Cheers,

A
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