Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-29 Thread David Raleigh Arnold

On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 19:12:48 Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > What do you mean?
> > #'merge-differently-dotted does the opposite of what we need -
> > effectively ruining my hack.
> > Please post full example if you have some smart way of typesetting  > a > WITHOUT merging the noteheads.
> 
> Yes. Simply add some code to note-collision.cc. 
> 
> :)
/usr/share/doc/lilypond/examples/input/test/force-hshift.fly
/usr/share/doc/lilypond/examples/input/test/force-hshift.ly
/usr/share/doc/lilypond/examples/input/test/hshift.fly
/usr/share/doc/lilypond/examples/input/test/hshift.ly
/usr/share/doc/lilypond/examples/input/test/note-shift.ly
/usr/share/doc/lilypond/examples/input/test/note-shift.sly

I hope this isn't gone.  DaveA


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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-29 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What do you mean?
> #'merge-differently-dotted does the opposite of what we need -
> effectively ruining my hack.
> Please post full example if you have some smart way of typesetting  a > WITHOUT merging the noteheads.

Yes. Simply add some code to note-collision.cc. 

:)



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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-29 Thread Rune Zedeler

Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> 
> Why not use the official solution:
> 
> \property Staff.NoteCollision \set #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t

?!?!?!

What do you mean?
#'merge-differently-dotted does the opposite of what we need -
effectively ruining my hack.
Please post full example if you have some smart way of typesetting  WITHOUT merging the noteheads.

-Rune


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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-29 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Why not use the official solution:

\property Staff.NoteCollision \set #'merge-differently-dotted = ##t

  /Mats

> Rune Zedeler wrote:
> 
> > < a4 \\ \once \property Voice.Dots \override #'transparent = ##t a4.*2/3 >
> > 
> > It probably even ruins the spacing because it adds space for an 
> > invisible dot.
> 
> Ofcourse the solution to this is to replace the property-setting with
> 
> \once \property Voice.Dots \override #'molecule-callback = \turnOff
> 
> Sorry for not thinking late at night :-)
> 
> Good night!
> 
> -Rune


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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-28 Thread Rune Zedeler

Rune Zedeler wrote:

> < a4 \\ \once \property Voice.Dots \override #'transparent = ##t a4.*2/3 >
> 
> It probably even ruins the spacing because it adds space for an 
> invisible dot.

Ofcourse the solution to this is to replace the property-setting with

\once \property Voice.Dots \override #'molecule-callback = \turnOff

Sorry for not thinking late at night :-)

Good night!

-Rune



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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-28 Thread Rune Zedeler

David Bobroff wrote:

> How would I get the two noteheads with
> stems?

Sorry but I can only come up with this very ugly hack:

< a4 \\ \once \property Voice.Dots \override #'transparent = ##t a4.*2/3 >

It probably even ruins the spacing because it adds space for an 
invisible dot.

-Rune



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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-28 Thread David Raleigh Arnold

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:06:44 Graham Percival wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:54:07 +
> David Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> > >Now, since you have two notes really sounding, you should have
> > >two noteheads.  If you had two instruments your notation
> > >would be ok.  For solo, it isn't.  Sorry.
> > 
> > Ok.  I'll mention this to the person whose manuscript I'm working from and
> > see how he wants it to appear.
> 
> Sometimes a solo voice _will_ have a single notehead with two stems -- right
> now I'm looking at the fourth movement of a Telemann concerto for viola in
> G major, which uses a single notehead with two stems to denote a double
> stop between an open A string and playing that same note on the D string.
> Printed by International Music Company, New York.

I don't deny that it is done.  The problem is that
the interpretation "a due" is not in doubt, but
a solo instrument presents ambiguity, because
as you know, double stems also are used to indicate
legato and sostenuto.  Wiser to have two heads
or not according to whether there are actually
two strings sounding or not.  Of course that does
not apply to keyboard music, or, apparently, to
Telemann.  If it's post-Baroque, do it.  If it's
Baroque, do it anyway.

> 
> >  How would I get the two noteheads with stems?

I hope \shiftOn and \shiftOff still work.  I haven't
needed them since my last upgrade.  DaveA


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Re: stem fix 2

2002-09-28 Thread Graham Percival

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 07:54:07 +
David Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Raleigh Arnold wrote:
> >Now, since you have two notes really sounding, you should have
> >two noteheads.  If you had two instruments your notation
> >would be ok.  For solo, it isn't.  Sorry.
> 
> Ok.  I'll mention this to the person whose manuscript I'm working from and
> see how he wants it to appear.

Sometimes a solo voice _will_ have a single notehead with two stems -- right
now I'm looking at the fourth movement of a Telemann concerto for viola in
G major, which uses a single notehead with two stems to denote a double
stop between an open A string and playing that same note on the D string.
Printed by International Music Company, New York.

>  How would I get the two noteheads with stems?

Can't help you there, I'm afraid.

Cheers,
- Graham


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stem fix 2

2002-09-28 Thread David Bobroff

\score{


\notes\relative c'{

 as2 < {a} \\ {a} > 
}
\paper{}
}

David Raleigh Arnold wrote:

>Now, since you have two notes really sounding, you should have
>two noteheads.  If you had two instruments your notation
>would be ok.  For solo, it isn't.  Sorry.

Ok.  I'll mention this to the person whose manuscript I'm working from and
see how he wants it to appear.  How would I get the two noteheads with
stems?  On a couple of my other tries before the above solution I got two
noteheads but only one stem.  Would that be the correct notation?

Thanks,

David Bobroff




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