translate a pdf file

2012-05-17 Thread fabio
sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible to get a ly 
file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly file!thank you!



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Re: translate a pdf file

2012-05-17 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/5/17 fabio fabiogabbiane...@me.com:
 sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible to get a 
 ly
 file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly file!thank 
 you!

Not automatically, but I do that every day. Just read the music and
type the note names and values you read.

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Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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Re: translate a pdf file

2012-05-17 Thread D'Arcy Cain

On 12-05-17 05:52 AM, fabio wrote:

sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible to get a ly
file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly file!thank you!


Other than reading it and retyping, no.  It's like trying to make eggs
from omelets.  Not to say it won't ever be possible.  Think OCR.

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Re: translate a pdf file

2012-05-17 Thread Urs Liska

Am 17.05.2012 13:37, schrieb D'Arcy Cain:

On 12-05-17 05:52 AM, fabio wrote:
sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible 
to get a ly
file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly 
file!thank you!


Other than reading it and retyping, no.  It's like trying to make eggs
from omelets.  Not to say it won't ever be possible.  Think OCR.


In theory that's already possible.
There are programs that translate scanned scores to a music format (e.g. 
Finale or Sibelius). Some of these programs can then export to musicXML 
which can then be converted to .ly.


But that's quite cumbersome - and you're not very likely to get useable 
results.

So most of the time retyping will be faster and better.

HTH
Urs

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Re: translate a pdf file

2012-05-17 Thread fabio gabbianelli
ok, i understandin that case i'll use the Pencil...
Il giorno 17/mag/2012, alle ore 13:04, Francisco Vila ha scritto:

 2012/5/17 fabio fabiogabbiane...@me.com:
 sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible to get a 
 ly
 file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly file!thank 
 you!
 
 Not automatically, but I do that every day. Just read the music and
 type the note names and values you read.
 
 -- 
 Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
 www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com


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Re: translate a pdf file

2012-05-17 Thread Phil Holmes
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On 12-05-17 05:52 AM, fabio wrote:
sorry i'm still at beginner level..!i want to know if it's possible to 
get a ly
file from a pdf,if there's any way to translate a pdf file to ly 
file!thank you!


Other than reading it and retyping, no.  It's like trying to make eggs
from omelets.  Not to say it won't ever be possible.  Think OCR.



Actually I do this quite regularly.  My workflow is rather cumbersome and 
could be improved, but it works for me.


1. Create image files from pdf.
2. Use SharpEye to do OCR
3. Correct OCR in SharpEye
4. Export to MusicXML
5. Export MusicXML to Noteworthy
6. Recorrrect and add tweaks.
7. Export Noteworthy and translate to .ly
8. Create PDF in LilyPond

It sounds long-winded but I bet I could beat a manual retyper for any 
reasonable score.


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Phil Holmes 



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