Re: unmetered music question
Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote: the |\revert| command for a context undoes an |\override| command so, simply do \revert Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function where you want to make the time signature visible again. It works. Thanks !!! Just, I need to put it in all staves. If I understand Lilypond correctly, TimeSignature belongs to the Staff context, so I need to revert its print-function in all staves, I can't do it for a Staff group. Right ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/unmetered-music-question-t271448.html#a3431925 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unmetered music question
Mats Bengtsson wrote: If you don't want any time signature printed, you can do \override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f What if I don't want a time signature in a part of a piece, and I want it back in another part ? Setting it invisible is not a solution, since I change it in almost every bar, and it produces spaces at the begining of the bars. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/unmetered-music-question-t271448.html#a3412816 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unmetered music question
Eddy-14 wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote: If you don't want any time signature printed, you can do \override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f What if I don't want a time signature in a part of a piece, and I want it back in another part ? Setting it invisible is not a solution, since I change it in almost every bar, and it produces spaces at the begining of the bars. To quote Section Layout tunings within contexts: the |\revert| command for a context undoes an |\override| command so, simply do \revert Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function where you want to make the time signature visible again. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unmetered music question
To quote Section Layout tunings within contexts:
the |\revert| command for a context undoes an |\override| command
so, simply do
\revert Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
where you want to make the time signature visible again.
That still leaves the blank spaces within the bars. You have to remove
the engraver to stop that from happening (AFAIK), and I don't know how
to remove it and put it back as needed.
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
gets rid of the engraver entirely.
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Re: unmetered music question
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 10.53, Eddy-14 wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you don't want any time signature printed, you can do
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f
What if I don't want a time signature in a part of a piece, and I want it
back in another part ? Setting it invisible is not a solution, since I
change it in almost every bar, and it produces spaces at the begining of
the bars.
The \time commands results in four property settings:
'timeSignatureFraction
'beatLength
'measureLength
'beatGrouping
If you set those manually instead, but leave 'timeSignatureFraction untouched,
then I think no time signature is created.
One way to figure out the values, could be to comment out the expression
starting with:
(define-extra-display-method ContextSpeccedMusic (expr)
in
scm/define-music-display-methods.scm
and then compile a file containing:
\displayLilyMusic { \time 3/4 c }
--
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Re: unmetered music question
On 15-Mar-06, at 3:07 AM, Geoff Horton wrote:
That still leaves the blank spaces within the bars. You have to remove
the engraver to stop that from happening (AFAIK), and I don't know how
to remove it and put it back as needed.
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
gets rid of the engraver entirely.
What about
\new Staff \with {
\remove blah } {
notes
}
Untested; see 9.1.3 for exact syntax.
- Graham
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Re: unmetered music question
On 3/15/06, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 15-Mar-06, at 3:07 AM, Geoff Horton wrote:
That still leaves the blank spaces within the bars. You have to remove
the engraver to stop that from happening (AFAIK), and I don't know how
to remove it and put it back as needed.
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
gets rid of the engraver entirely.
What about
\new Staff \with {
\remove blah } {
notes
}
Untested; see 9.1.3 for exact syntax.
- Graham
Same effect, I think. I prefer to keep the formatting decisions
isolated from the score setup as much as possible, so I'm not a big
fan of the \new syntax.
Geoff
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Re: unmetered music question
On 15-Mar-06, at 9:54 AM, Geoff Horton wrote:
On 3/15/06, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 15-Mar-06, at 3:07 AM, Geoff Horton wrote:
That still leaves the blank spaces within the bars. You have to
remove
the engraver to stop that from happening (AFAIK), and I don't know
how
to remove it and put it back as needed.
What about
\new Staff \with {
\remove blah } {
notes
}
Same effect, I think. I prefer to keep the formatting decisions
isolated from the score setup as much as possible, so I'm not a big
fan of the \new syntax.
Well, if you want some staffs with time signatures and some staffs
without time signatures, \with is your friend. :) If you want to add
and remove time signatures in the middle of a piece, this solution
doesn't work, of course.
- Graham
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Re: unmetered music question
Geoff Horton wrote:
To quote Section Layout tunings within contexts:
the |\revert| command for a context undoes an |\override| command
so, simply do
\revert Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
where you want to make the time signature visible again.
That still leaves the blank spaces within the bars. You have to remove
the engraver to stop that from happening (AFAIK), and I don't know how
to remove it and put it back as needed.
Are you really sure about that? I just tried the following
example and I cannot see any difference between the two
scores:
\version 2.6.0
\layout{
raggedright = ##t
}
\score{\relative c'{
\override Score.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f
\time 3/4 c c c |
\time 5/4 c c c c c |
\time 4/4 c c c c |
}
}
\score{
\new Staff \with {\remove Time_signature_engraver}
\relative c'{
\time 3/4 c c c |
\time 5/4 c c c c c |
\time 4/4 c c c c |
}
}
It's really easy to check such a thing with a small example
before sending misleading information to the mailing list.
/Mats
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Re: unmetered music question
If you don't want any time signature printed, you can do \override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f /Mats Thomas Ruedas wrote: Hi, On Friday 02 September 2005 04:50, Mehmet Okonsar wrote: try \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff thanks Mehmet, that brought me at least much closer to the desired result. However, I still can't get rid of the 4/4 signature at the begin of the piece. Isn't there a way to switch that off? I also have the impression that lily doesn't quite forget that, because for some reason it omits the R1 rest in the first (quasi-)bar and puts it in bar 7, where it is completely out of place. Any further ideas? Thomas -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unmetered music question
Hi again, On Saturday 03 September 2005 17:38, Mats Bengtsson wrote: If you don't want any time signature printed, you can do \override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function = ##f ok, this was the final bit to produce something which is at least consistently structured and arithmetically correct in terms of note duration and time signature; the rest is fine-tuning, I guess. For the records: the other suggestions concerning Score.timing, Timing.measureLength and Timing.automaticBars suggested by Kris and Mehmet did not change results, if I used cadenzaOn/Off anyway. Thanks everybody for your help, Thomas -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unmetered music question
Hi, On Friday 02 September 2005 04:50, Mehmet Okonsar wrote: try \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff thanks Mehmet, that brought me at least much closer to the desired result. However, I still can't get rid of the 4/4 signature at the begin of the piece. Isn't there a way to switch that off? I also have the impression that lily doesn't quite forget that, because for some reason it omits the R1 rest in the first (quasi-)bar and puts it in bar 7, where it is completely out of place. Any further ideas? Thomas -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: unmetered music question
Try \set Score.timing = ##f inside the staff context, instead of outside (referring to the code in the original email). Also, can you post the whole file you're working from? It may help the debugging. -- Kris Shaffer graduate student in music theory, Yale University co-editor-in-chief for music theory, AmSteg.org www.shaffermusic.com On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:53:50 -0400, Thomas Ruedas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Friday 02 September 2005 04:50, Mehmet Okonsar wrote: try \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff thanks Mehmet, that brought me at least much closer to the desired result. However, I still can't get rid of the 4/4 signature at the begin of the piece. Isn't there a way to switch that off? I also have the impression that lily doesn't quite forget that, because for some reason it omits the R1 rest in the first (quasi-)bar and puts it in bar 7, where it is completely out of place. Any further ideas? Thomas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
unmetered music question
Hi,
I am trying to set a piece where no meter is given, but don't quite
succeed. What I have done is to omit the \time x/y command, but lily
insists on having a 4/4 meter. Furthermore, I tried to follow the
instruction from doc sect. 5.3.7 Unmetered music by setting
\score {
\set Score.timing = ##f
\context Voice = fl { \FluteOne }
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff = upper \UpperOne
\context Staff = lower \LowerOne
}
and inserting bars by hand in the text for visual division of the music,
but lily sets the bars for her 4/4 an addition to those.
Is it possible to set unmetered music the way I want with v.2.4.6, and how
do I do it?
Thanks,
Thomas
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Re: unmetered music question
try \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff
Best Regards,
Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer
www.okonsar.com
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From: Thomas Ruedas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:34 PM
Subject: unmetered music question
Hi,
I am trying to set a piece where no meter is given, but don't quite
succeed. What I have done is to omit the \time x/y command, but lily
insists on having a 4/4 meter. Furthermore, I tried to follow the
instruction from doc sect. 5.3.7 Unmetered music by setting
\score {
\set Score.timing = ##f
\context Voice = fl { \FluteOne }
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff = upper \UpperOne
\context Staff = lower \LowerOne
}
and inserting bars by hand in the text for visual division of the music,
but lily sets the bars for her 4/4 an addition to those.
Is it possible to set unmetered music the way I want with v.2.4.6, and how
do I do it?
Thanks,
Thomas
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