[RFC] Stable/Development Overlay for Ubuntu LEB

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Salveti
Hi,

Following some complains and issues with the way we're currently
maintaining our main Overlay PPA, I'd like to propose a new way to
produce the Ubuntu LEBs, by generating Stable and Unstable/Development
focused images.

At the moment all the development work for the Ubuntu LEB happens at 2
different repositories:
- Staging PPA 
(https://launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/staging-overlay):
test and development related builds, usually broken but a common place
to share the packages before making them official at the LEB.
- Overlay PPA (https://launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/+archive/overlay):
main overlay repository, and common location for hardware enablement
packages and released components by Linaro (e.g. Linux Linaro,
glmark2, etc).

Using just one single main repository seems fine until you have at
least one board fully enabled, with dependencies going from Kernel to
user space, as the enablement usually doesn't keep up with the latest
development and updates produced by the Landing Teams and Working
Groups. One simple case is what happened with Pandaboard, that had a
fully enabled userspace (OpenGL ES2.0 and HW Decode), but needed to be
locked down with an specific kernel and user space packages.

Differently than what we have with Android images, we don't just
produce one single tarball where the user is unable to change or
extend. At our side we're maintaining a real distro, and
updating/upgrading packages is expected. Once we release a fully
enabled build, we can't simply break it down with newer updates
because will make all users unhappy, which is bad for the users and
for Linaro (as it's hard to compare hw enablement, produce demos and
such).

At the same time, we don't want to be locked down into specific
versions, because one of our goals is to make sure the hardware
enablement is always matching the latest kernel/components available.
Working with upstream based components helps us with development and
validation, and also identifying what is still needed to get
everything working from time to time.

Looking at the problem, here's what I think it'd help to fix the situation:
1 - Overlay PPA becomes the main repository for basic platform
development, without having any hardware specific package (not even
the kernel):
This PPA would be used by all the images we're producing
(stable/unstable), as all the changes would be just related with the
distribution. Once we get newer components that are not related with
hardware enablement, and not critical enough to break compatibility
across images, we would be integrating them at this repository (e.g.
powertop, glmark2, libpng, libjpeg-turbo, etc).
2 - We create the Development Overlay PPA, to be the main place
carrying the hardware related pieces, like kernel, drivers and
multimedia:
This would be the main PPA used during our own development, always
containing the latest kernel packages from the Linux Linaro and
Landing Team trees. Here we could also integrate components related
with hardware enablement that are not for prime use yet, but would
help people that are always looking for the latest stuff available.
3 - Create a set of Stable PPAs for every board we're officially supporting:
Here the goal would be to have a single place where we can push the
enablement related changes that are known to be working. At the
Pandaboard case this PPA would contain the 3.1 based kernel with SGX
and HW video decoding working out of the box. Once a new snapshot
based on the development release is known to work in a satisfactory
way, we would simply just copy them over the Stable PPA for the
respective board. This would also help the cases where we have
packages with hw enablement changes that conflict with other boards.

So in the end we'd be generating 2 sets of hwpacks per board, one
based on the Development Overlay (latest components, even if not
working properly), and one based on the Stable PPAs, that we know
it'll always have a better enablement. Both would be using the same
rootfs, as all distro related core changes will be part of the Overlay
PPA anyway.

I believe this can simply things a bit, and would not consume much of
our time as the stable repository would just be a snapshot of a known
to be working development PPA.

Please let me know what you all think, as we could have this model
working with the 12.04 Ubuntu Precise based images already.

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Re: Config fragment for Versatile Express

2012-04-03 Thread Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 12:30 -0700, John Stultz wrote:
 The difficulty is that as Tixy earlier pointed out, are that the LT 
 kernel trees are mainline based, and thus aren't based off of something 
 that would contain the base/distro/board config fragments.
 
 One approach we might be able to use is if the board defconfigs really 
 are minimal, and restricted in scope to only the board options, we could 
 switch the merge order (board/distro/base). This way the LT's additive 
 defconfig can be used (from arch/arm/configs/ ) and we can still also 
 get consistent generic options as well.

The mainline defconfigs aren't minimal in the sense we want, they
include things like file-systems and networking options so somebody can
build a usable kernel, and I think it's sensible to keep it that way.

For Linaro's purposes we would need a new board config. We could make
that minimal, but we get back to the idea that topic branches which
change configs would need to sit on top of the topic with this config.
Perhaps that is something we can live with if a
directory-of-config-fragments approach is deemed undesirable.

It's a pity that the title of the thread possibly means no one from
other LTs are reading. (Probably a bit late to change it now and get
noticed.)

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Re: [RFC] Stable/Development Overlay for Ubuntu LEB

2012-04-03 Thread Amit Kucheria
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ricardo Salveti
ricardo.salv...@linaro.org wrote:

snip

 Looking at the problem, here's what I think it'd help to fix the situation:
 1 - Overlay PPA becomes the main repository for basic platform
 development, without having any hardware specific package (not even
 the kernel):
 This PPA would be used by all the images we're producing
 (stable/unstable), as all the changes would be just related with the
 distribution. Once we get newer components that are not related with
 hardware enablement, and not critical enough to break compatibility
 across images, we would be integrating them at this repository (e.g.
 powertop, glmark2, libpng, libjpeg-turbo, etc).
 2 - We create the Development Overlay PPA, to be the main place
 carrying the hardware related pieces, like kernel, drivers and
 multimedia:
 This would be the main PPA used during our own development, always
 containing the latest kernel packages from the Linux Linaro and
 Landing Team trees. Here we could also integrate components related
 with hardware enablement that are not for prime use yet, but would
 help people that are always looking for the latest stuff available.
 3 - Create a set of Stable PPAs for every board we're officially supporting:
 Here the goal would be to have a single place where we can push the
 enablement related changes that are known to be working. At the
 Pandaboard case this PPA would contain the 3.1 based kernel with SGX
 and HW video decoding working out of the box. Once a new snapshot
 based on the development release is known to work in a satisfactory
 way, we would simply just copy them over the Stable PPA for the
 respective board. This would also help the cases where we have
 packages with hw enablement changes that conflict with other boards.

 So in the end we'd be generating 2 sets of hwpacks per board, one
 based on the Development Overlay (latest components, even if not
 working properly), and one based on the Stable PPAs, that we know
 it'll always have a better enablement. Both would be using the same
 rootfs, as all distro related core changes will be part of the Overlay
 PPA anyway.

 I believe this can simply things a bit, and would not consume much of
 our time as the stable repository would just be a snapshot of a known
 to be working development PPA.

What would the monthly release be based on? The stable PPA?

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Re: Config fragment for Versatile Express

2012-04-03 Thread Tushar Behera
On 04/03/2012 01:43 PM, Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 12:30 -0700, John Stultz wrote:
 The difficulty is that as Tixy earlier pointed out, are that the LT 
 kernel trees are mainline based, and thus aren't based off of something 
 that would contain the base/distro/board config fragments.

 One approach we might be able to use is if the board defconfigs really 
 are minimal, and restricted in scope to only the board options, we could 
 switch the merge order (board/distro/base). This way the LT's additive 
 defconfig can be used (from arch/arm/configs/ ) and we can still also 
 get consistent generic options as well.
 
 The mainline defconfigs aren't minimal in the sense we want, they
 include things like file-systems and networking options so somebody can
 build a usable kernel, and I think it's sensible to keep it that way.
 
 For Linaro's purposes we would need a new board config. We could make
 that minimal, but we get back to the idea that topic branches which
 change configs would need to sit on top of the topic with this config.
 Perhaps that is something we can live with if a
 directory-of-config-fragments approach is deemed undesirable.
 
 It's a pity that the title of the thread possibly means no one from
 other LTs are reading. (Probably a bit late to change it now and get
 noticed.)
 
I hope not.

For Samsung LT kernel, we have followed an approach where in the commits
in John's linaro_config_3.3 branch are taken to be stable commits and we
have put those commits as the very first set of commits on LT kernel.
Our LT kernel being a _serialized_ kernel where topic branches sit one
over the other, the related config fragments are made part of the topic
branches.

A sample view of the same is posted at [1].

[1] git://git.linaro.org/landing-teams/working/samsung/kernel.git (lt/next)

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Re: Config fragment for Versatile Express

2012-04-03 Thread Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 14:51 +0530, Tushar Behera wrote:
 For Samsung LT kernel, we have followed an approach where in the commits
 in John's linaro_config_3.3 branch are taken to be stable commits and we
 have put those commits as the very first set of commits on LT kernel.
 Our LT kernel being a _serialized_ kernel where topic branches sit one
 over the other, the related config fragments are made part of the topic
 branches.
 
 A sample view of the same is posted at [1].
 
 [1] git://git.linaro.org/landing-teams/working/samsung/kernel.git (lt/next)

The Samsung tree has the non samsung config files, like
linaro-base.conf. I was wondering if that would cause merge problems if
every LT had them and at possibly different versions. I guess it doesn't
matter so long as all LTs got them from the same definitive 'upstream'
source, and that they didn't edit them.

I think it makes sense if this 'upstream' doesn't include board files
though, they should come from LT trees.

We also need a better upstream than John's personal Android tree :-)

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Re: Config fragment for Versatile Express

2012-04-03 Thread Andy Green
On 04/03/2012 06:29 PM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 14:51 +0530, Tushar Behera wrote:
 For Samsung LT kernel, we have followed an approach where in the commits
 in John's linaro_config_3.3 branch are taken to be stable commits and we
 have put those commits as the very first set of commits on LT kernel.
 Our LT kernel being a _serialized_ kernel where topic branches sit one
 over the other, the related config fragments are made part of the topic
 branches.

 A sample view of the same is posted at [1].

 [1] git://git.linaro.org/landing-teams/working/samsung/kernel.git (lt/next)
 
 The Samsung tree has the non samsung config files, like
 linaro-base.conf. I was wondering if that would cause merge problems if
 every LT had them and at possibly different versions. I guess it doesn't
 matter so long as all LTs got them from the same definitive 'upstream'
 source, and that they didn't edit them.

Squidging them all together will anyway require a lot of automated
conflict resolution happening, favouring later version of this common
file would probably not be noticable.

I'll have a go at Tushar's method tomorrow it looks like a good plan.

 I think it makes sense if this 'upstream' doesn't include board files
 though, they should come from LT trees.

Normally board files means mach-xyz/board*.c for me I am guessing you
mean board-specific defconfigs ^^

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Re: Config fragment for Versatile Express

2012-04-03 Thread Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 18:43 +0800, Andy Green wrote:
 On 04/03/2012 06:29 PM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
  I think it makes sense if this 'upstream' doesn't include board files
  though, they should come from LT trees.
 
 Normally board files means mach-xyz/board*.c for me I am guessing you
 mean board-specific defconfigs ^^

Indeed I did.

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Re: [RFC] Stable/Development Overlay for Ubuntu LEB

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Salveti
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Amit Kucheria amit.kuche...@linaro.org wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ricardo Salveti
 So in the end we'd be generating 2 sets of hwpacks per board, one
 based on the Development Overlay (latest components, even if not
 working properly), and one based on the Stable PPAs, that we know
 it'll always have a better enablement. Both would be using the same
 rootfs, as all distro related core changes will be part of the Overlay
 PPA anyway.

 I believe this can simply things a bit, and would not consume much of
 our time as the stable repository would just be a snapshot of a known
 to be working development PPA.

 What would the monthly release be based on? The stable PPA?

We'd be producing the release based on both the stable and
dev/unstable PPA. Stable for users that just want to have the latest
userspace working with an enabled kernel, and unstable for brave users
and linaro developers that are mainly concerned about upstream support
and enablement there.

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Re: [RFC] Stable/Development Overlay for Ubuntu LEB

2012-04-03 Thread Amit Kucheria
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Ricardo Salveti
ricardo.salv...@linaro.org wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Amit Kucheria amit.kuche...@linaro.org 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ricardo Salveti
 So in the end we'd be generating 2 sets of hwpacks per board, one
 based on the Development Overlay (latest components, even if not
 working properly), and one based on the Stable PPAs, that we know
 it'll always have a better enablement. Both would be using the same
 rootfs, as all distro related core changes will be part of the Overlay
 PPA anyway.

 I believe this can simply things a bit, and would not consume much of
 our time as the stable repository would just be a snapshot of a known
 to be working development PPA.

 What would the monthly release be based on? The stable PPA?

 We'd be producing the release based on both the stable and
 dev/unstable PPA. Stable for users that just want to have the latest
 userspace working with an enabled kernel, and unstable for brave users
 and linaro developers that are mainly concerned about upstream support
 and enablement there.

This will certainly be useful for a certain category of users and
increase our community size.

However, I worry about a situation where everybody settles down on the
stable release and the unstable versions don't get much testing.

Can there be some commitment from those responsible for HW enablement
(kernel porting, binary blobs, etc.) to provide periodic refreshes of
these components? e.g. every 3 months. IOW, some predictable forward
momentum for the stable releases instead of continuing divergence
similar to internal BSPs.

/Amit

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Re: [RFC] Stable/Development Overlay for Ubuntu LEB

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Salveti
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Amit Kucheria amit.kuche...@linaro.org wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Ricardo Salveti
 ricardo.salv...@linaro.org wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Amit Kucheria amit.kuche...@linaro.org 
 wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ricardo Salveti
 So in the end we'd be generating 2 sets of hwpacks per board, one
 based on the Development Overlay (latest components, even if not
 working properly), and one based on the Stable PPAs, that we know
 it'll always have a better enablement. Both would be using the same
 rootfs, as all distro related core changes will be part of the Overlay
 PPA anyway.

 I believe this can simply things a bit, and would not consume much of
 our time as the stable repository would just be a snapshot of a known
 to be working development PPA.

 What would the monthly release be based on? The stable PPA?

 We'd be producing the release based on both the stable and
 dev/unstable PPA. Stable for users that just want to have the latest
 userspace working with an enabled kernel, and unstable for brave users
 and linaro developers that are mainly concerned about upstream support
 and enablement there.

 This will certainly be useful for a certain category of users and
 increase our community size.

 However, I worry about a situation where everybody settles down on the
 stable release and the unstable versions don't get much testing.

 Can there be some commitment from those responsible for HW enablement
 (kernel porting, binary blobs, etc.) to provide periodic refreshes of
 these components? e.g. every 3 months. IOW, some predictable forward
 momentum for the stable releases instead of continuing divergence
 similar to internal BSPs.

Yeah, that's the goal. Our effort inside Linaro is to always enable
and test the unstable release, so we can make sure our development is
progressing properly, and that the vendor is also publishing the blogs
at a useful schedule.

The stable would be initially a working snapshot of the unstable PPA,
to be used by end users. We would not spend resources validating it
over the cycles, as I'd expect the maintenance to be more a community
driven effort, that can be owned by the vendor itself, or just by
community users/developers.

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Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/4] thermal: Add a new trip type to use cooling device instance number

2012-04-03 Thread Eduardo Valentin
Hello,

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 04:50:14PM +0530, Amit Kachhap wrote:
 On 23 February 2012 12:16, R, Durgadoss durgados...@intel.com wrote:
  Hi Amit,
 
  -Original Message-
  From: amit kachhap [mailto:amitdani...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Amit Daniel
  Kachhap
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:44 PM
  To: linux...@lists.linux-foundation.org
  Cc: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org; mj...@srcf.ucam.org; linux-
  a...@vger.kernel.org; l...@kernel.org; linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org;
  amit.kach...@linaro.org; R, Durgadoss; rob@linaro.org; 
  patc...@linaro.org
  Subject: [PATCH 1/4] thermal: Add a new trip type to use cooling device
  instance number
 
  This patch adds a new trip type THERMAL_TRIP_STATE_ACTIVE. This
  trip behaves same as THERMAL_TRIP_ACTIVE but also passes the cooling
  device instance number. This helps the cooling device registered as
  different instances to perform appropriate cooling action decision in
  the set_cur_state call back function.
 
  Also since the trip temperature's are in ascending order so some logic
  is put in place to skip the un-necessary checks.
 
  Signed-off-by: Amit Daniel Kachhap amit.kach...@linaro.org
  ---
   Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt |    4 +-
   drivers/thermal/thermal_sys.c       |   45 
  --
   include/linux/thermal.h             |    1 +
   3 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
 
  diff --git a/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt 
  b/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-
  api.txt
  index 1733ab9..7a0c080 100644
  --- a/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt
  +++ b/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt
  @@ -184,8 +184,8 @@ trip_point_[0-*]_temp
 
   trip_point_[0-*]_type
        Strings which indicate the type of the trip point.
  -     E.g. it can be one of critical, hot, passive, active[0-*] for ACPI
  -     thermal zone.
  +     E.g. it can be one of critical, hot, passive, active[0-1],
  +     state-active[0-*] for ACPI thermal zone.
        RO, Optional
 
   cdev[0-*]
  diff --git a/drivers/thermal/thermal_sys.c b/drivers/thermal/thermal_sys.c
  index 220ce7e..d4c9b20 100644
  --- a/drivers/thermal/thermal_sys.c
  +++ b/drivers/thermal/thermal_sys.c
  @@ -192,6 +192,8 @@ trip_point_type_show(struct device *dev, struct
  device_attribute *attr,
                return sprintf(buf, passive\n);
        case THERMAL_TRIP_ACTIVE:
                return sprintf(buf, active\n);
  +     case THERMAL_TRIP_STATE_ACTIVE:
  +             return sprintf(buf, state-active\n);
        default:
                return sprintf(buf, unknown\n);
        }
  @@ -1034,10 +1036,10 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(thermal_cooling_device_unregister);
 
   void thermal_zone_device_update(struct thermal_zone_device *tz)
   {
  -     int count, ret = 0;
  -     long temp, trip_temp;
  +     int count, ret = 0, inst_id;
  +     long temp, trip_temp, max_state, last_trip_change = 0;
        enum thermal_trip_type trip_type;
  -     struct thermal_cooling_device_instance *instance;
  +     struct thermal_cooling_device_instance *instance, *state_instance;
        struct thermal_cooling_device *cdev;
 
        mutex_lock(tz-lock);
  @@ -1086,6 +1088,43 @@ void thermal_zone_device_update(struct
  thermal_zone_device *tz)
                                        cdev-ops-set_cur_state(cdev, 0);
                        }
                        break;
  +             case THERMAL_TRIP_STATE_ACTIVE:
  +                     list_for_each_entry(instance, tz-cooling_devices,
  +                                         node) {
  +                             if (instance-trip != count)
  +                                     continue;
  +
  +                             if (temp = last_trip_change)
  +                                     continue;
  +
  +                             inst_id = 0;
  +                             /*
  +                             *For this instance how many instance of same
  +                             *cooling device occured before
  +                             */
  +
  +                             list_for_each_entry(state_instance,
  +                                             tz-cooling_devices, node) {
  +                                     if (instance-cdev ==
  +                                                     state_instance-cdev)
  +                                             inst_id++;
  +                                     if (state_instance-trip == count)
  +                                             break;
  +                             }
 
  Can you explain a bit more on this loop and the set_cur_state below ?
  Sorry, I don't get the logic behind this..
 
 This loop is basically finding the instance id of the same cooling device.
 Say we have done like this,
 thermal_zone_bind_cooling_device(thermal, 2, cdev);
 thermal_zone_bind_cooling_device(thermal, 3, cdev);
 thermal_zone_bind_cooling_device(thermal, 4, cdev);
 
 In above same cooling device cdev is binded to trip no 2,3 and 4 with
 

ANN: dumb HTTP git-hosting on git.linaro.org

2012-04-03 Thread Georgy Redkozubov
Greetings,

git.linaro.org supports scalable git clones over HTTP. This was done to
eliminate huge resources consumption by clones over GIT and smart HTTP
protocols by serving files directly with Apache server.
To clone read-only git tree use following link:
   
git clone http://git.linaro.org/*git-ro*/people/username/gitproject.git

Your own tree is accessible over dumb HTTP protocol by default after
creation and you need additional steps to setup only if you are using
objects/info/alternates mechanism to borrow objects from other object
stores. Then you have to setup objects/info/http-alternates file with
appropriate contents (links to remote repositories) and ensure that
alternate repository is also accessible over HTTP protocol.

Please refer to https://wiki.linaro.org/Process/GitHostingAccounts for
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Re: Config fragment for Versatile Express

2012-04-03 Thread Tushar Behera
On 04/03/2012 03:59 PM, Jon Medhurst (Tixy) wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 14:51 +0530, Tushar Behera wrote:
 For Samsung LT kernel, we have followed an approach where in the commits
 in John's linaro_config_3.3 branch are taken to be stable commits and we
 have put those commits as the very first set of commits on LT kernel.
 Our LT kernel being a _serialized_ kernel where topic branches sit one
 over the other, the related config fragments are made part of the topic
 branches.

 A sample view of the same is posted at [1].

 [1] git://git.linaro.org/landing-teams/working/samsung/kernel.git (lt/next)
 
 The Samsung tree has the non samsung config files, like
 linaro-base.conf. I was wondering if that would cause merge problems if
 every LT had them and at possibly different versions. I guess it doesn't

This method works well if the common config fragments, once committed to
some upstream tree, are stable. Then only it makes sense to base other
topics on top of this.

 matter so long as all LTs got them from the same definitive 'upstream'
 source, and that they didn't edit them.
 
 I think it makes sense if this 'upstream' doesn't include board files
 though, they should come from LT trees.
 
As for the board specific fragments, I feel it would be better if the
config-upstream tree has the initial fragment (which I suppose is
minimal enough to compile the common kernel). That way anyone taking
linux-linaro-tracking can have at least a working setup.

As and when some topics get merged to mainline, we can move those
config-fragments to upstream tree.

 We also need a better upstream than John's personal Android tree :-)
 
I suppose, it would soon get a place in linux-linaro-tracking.

-- 
Tushar Behera

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