lingo-l Soundbusy returns TRUE on PCs with no soundcard

2004-05-10 Thread Cath Sample
Hi,
There seems to be a problem with testing for soundbusy(channel) in certain 
cases. I don't recall this happening pre MX- has anyone seen it in older 
versions?

The problem scenario is:
The soundDevice is set to use QT3mix (I haven't tried it without)
call- puppetsound(1,membername)
test for soundbusy(1) in a frame script
If the PC is without a soundcard, or the soundcard is not working Director 
will return TRUE for soundbusy(1) for as long as I have been willing to wait.

The problem doesn't happen if the sound is not a puppet sound.

Regards

Cath Sample
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lingo-l Flash components: mouseUp and mouseUp Outside

2004-05-10 Thread Brennan
I am finally getting some time with DMX 2004, and one thing I noticed was
that the old fashioned hypercard pushbutton from the toolpalette has been
replaced by a flash component. 

(You can still get the old hypercard button from the Insert menu).

Onto the nub of my gist:

If you put a lingo script on a flash component push button, say

on mouseUp
  alert mouseUp
end

...and then click down on the button, but release outside it, you still
get the mouseUp event. That's surely not correct. I should get
'mouseUpOutside', and absolutely not 'mouseUp' under those circumstances.
What's up with that?

Worse; I don't get a 'mouseUpOutside' message either. That could be very
problematic. I am inclined to lock all GUI elements while tracking the
mouse. 

The way this is working, you can mouse down on one button, and mouseUp on
another. The one you mouseUp on responds when your mouse enters it, but
it's the one you clicked first that gets the mouseUp message. Ugh!

Presumably a Flash component doesn't have to behave this way, it's just
sloppy design, but can this be fixed by us, or do we have to wait for
macromedia to do it?

BTW 'Hypercard' style buttons behave 'properly' (except that they too
'rollover' when you've clicked something else.

Brennan 

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Re: lingo-l Flash components: mouseUp and mouseUp Outside

2004-05-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On May 10, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Brennan wrote:

I am finally getting some time with DMX 2004, and one thing I noticed 
was
that the old fashioned hypercard pushbutton from the toolpalette has 
been
replaced by a flash component.
Yeah. Those are neat. Take a look and play around. Then, never ever use 
them again.

Add just one of those things to a Director project and watch the 
performance hit. Their Tree, or Listbox? Forget them. They are so slow, 
and have so many caveats to their use that they can kill an otherwise 
good Director project.

Somehow Macromedia missed it, but Imaging Lingo's time has finally 
come. It really shows just how bad Flash's performance is in the UI 
field. The tool palette should have IL components in it, not Flash.
--
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Re: lingo-l Flash components: mouseUp and mouseUp Outside

2004-05-10 Thread Alex da Franca
At 11:05 Uhr -0400 10.05.2004, Troy Rollins wrote:
On May 10, 2004, at 10:32 AM, Brennan wrote:

I am finally getting some time with DMX 2004, and one thing I noticed was
that the old fashioned hypercard pushbutton from the toolpalette has been
replaced by a flash component.
Yeah. Those are neat. Take a look and play 
around. Then, never ever use them again.

Add just one of those things to a Director 
project and watch the performance hit. Their 
Tree, or Listbox? Forget them. They are so slow, 
and have so many caveats to their use that they 
can kill an otherwise good Director project.

Somehow Macromedia missed it, but Imaging 
Lingo's time has finally come. It really shows 
just how bad Flash's performance is in the UI 
field. The tool palette should have IL 
components in it, not Flash.
--
sic !

just paying a bit attention to linked director 
movies, better spoken the ability of importing 
director movies, not just linking them, would 
lead to the encapsulation, we need so badly in 
director.
fixing the remaining few issues with LDMs would 
open up the door for teamwork and protected 
components.
when people say they need something like 
movieclips, they do not mean they need flash in 
director, but rather something LIKE movieclips, 
but with directors flexibility.
unfortunately the descision makers at macromedia 
seem to think, that it is the name 'flash' which 
sells and nothing else.
so instead of offering a tool, which is an 
evolution for a flash user, they make director a 
flash player, which is (and can only be) worse 
than taking the flash player in the first place.
translating lingo into javascript doesn't help much, IMHO.
it is not the language difference between lingo 
and AS, which make me stick to director, I just 
don't know flash that well and do not know the 
keywords and functionality of flash that well, 
rtegardless, if they resemble lingo, javascript 
or C, if I would dig into flash, it would be the 
easiest part. I don't care if I have to learn:
'movieclip.tell.something()' or 'tell something 
to movieclip' I'd have to learn both of them in 
the first place.

of course that is just my personal opinion.

I wouldn't complain, if hundreds of thousands of 
flash users would rather switch to director 
because of javascript syntax, than because of the 
coolness of IL and sw3d and the frightning 
abilities it offers.
but I doubt it.

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Re: lingo-l Flash components: mouseUp and mouseUp Outside

2004-05-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On May 10, 2004, at 2:11 PM, Alex da Franca wrote:

just paying a bit attention to linked director movies, better spoken 
the ability of importing director movies, not just linking them, would 
lead to the encapsulation, we need so badly in director.
fixing the remaining few issues with LDMs would open up the door for 
teamwork and protected components.
when people say they need something like movieclips, they do not mean 
they need flash in director, but rather something LIKE movieclips, but 
with directors flexibility.
unfortunately the descision makers at macromedia seem to think, that 
it is the name 'flash' which sells and nothing else.
so instead of offering a tool, which is an evolution for a flash user, 
they make director a flash player, which is (and can only be) worse 
than taking the flash player in the first place.
translating lingo into javascript doesn't help much, IMHO.
it is not the language difference between lingo and AS, which make me 
stick to director, I just don't know flash that well and do not know 
the keywords and functionality of flash that well, rtegardless, if 
they resemble lingo, javascript or C, if I would dig into flash, it 
would be the easiest part. I don't care if I have to learn:
'movieclip.tell.something()' or 'tell something to movieclip' I'd have 
to learn both of them in the first place.

of course that is just my personal opinion.
Agreed.

Macromedia doesn't seem to recognize that Director without Flash is 
still very much an option - maybe now more than ever. Processor speed 
and general system speeds have benefited all the cool stuff Director 
has been able to do before, but can do much faster now. Imaging and 3D 
are both dramatically faster now. Flash, is still a pig, even on a fast 
system (when it comes to heavyweight processing... like the Flash Tree 
component.)

Comparing Flash components to native lingo components is quite comical. 
Flash benefits from encapsulation... that is about the only place it 
wins. With proper LDM support, it wouldn't even have that.

I don't mind using Flash for things that Flash is good for... we 
include lots of interactive animations in our Director stuff, it is 
great for that. But for data handling UI components? Please. That is no 
solution. Native stuff both looks better, and performs better.

Director deserves better.
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lingo-l Playback platforms.

2004-05-10 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr
Hi all,

Can Director run on Windows CE? Didn't find anything on the MM site, so I
thought I'd ask the masses.


Thanks in advance for any help,
John


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lingo-l Why not?

2004-05-10 Thread Peter Bochan
Hi,

Just curious why not launch some Director/Lingo community like this one at
http://www.codewarrioru.com?

Cheers
Premium


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Re: lingo-l Playback platforms.

2004-05-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On May 10, 2004, at 4:38 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr wrote:

Can Director run on Windows CE? Didn't find anything on the MM site, 
so I
thought I'd ask the masses.
No.

Werner Sharp's site has an xtra for PocketPC conversion, but the site 
looks a bit stale.

I recently did a project in Flash for PocketPC. It went OK, but Flash 
is a processing pig on any platform. It doesn't get made better in 
PocketPC processors.

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