Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-16 Thread Mathew Ray
yes...what warren said :0)

That is, unless you have another reason for doing the updatestage.

~Mathew

Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Jan 15, 2004, at 11:15 PM, macmec wrote:

Mathew, when you say to set the stagecolor where I am updating the 
stage, are you suggesting that I do that in addition to the 
updateStage command, or instead?


Instead of, not in addition to.


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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-16 Thread Trevor J. Lotz
Okay, I finally got a chance to implement this, changed my updateStage 
command to the stageColor=the stageColor worked like a charm!  Thank 
you guys so much for such a quick and easy fix!  That really will save 
my skin.

Incidentally, not that it makes a difference, necessarily, but my Flash 
movies were NOT Direct To Stage.  I didn't ever try making them direct 
to stage, as this solution worked.  But it's possible that would do it 
also.

Now, just so I can understand Director a little better, and hopefully 
alleviate issues like this more easily in the future, what was 
happening to cause this, from a technical standpoint?  There have been 
a few comments about a display buffer, can this be confirmed.  Just 
curious.  A huge thanks, yet again.

Mathew, when you say to set the stagecolor where I am updating the 
stage, are you suggesting that I do that in addition to the 
updateStage command, or instead?
Instead of, not in addition to.
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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-16 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 16, 2004, at 2:09 PM, Trevor J. Lotz wrote:

Okay, I finally got a chance to implement this, changed my updateStage 
command to the stageColor=the stageColor worked like a charm!  Thank 
you guys so much for such a quick and easy fix!  That really will save 
my skin.
That's good, since I'll personally expect one pound of flesh in payment 
for services rendered.

;)

Incidentally, not that it makes a difference, necessarily, but my 
Flash movies were NOT Direct To Stage.  I didn't ever try making them 
direct to stage, as this solution worked.  But it's possible that 
would do it also.
Maybe or not, but they'll probably play back more smoothly as DTS items.

Now, just so I can understand Director a little better, and hopefully 
alleviate issues like this more easily in the future, what was 
happening to cause this, from a technical standpoint?
Prolly buffer issues, yeah. (I nearly wrote 'bugger'...) It's been 
around for a *very* long time, I think since ver. 5 at least, and 
possibly longer. You get the same kind of lingering image trailing from 
QT videos. It's obnoxious but, I'm guessing, a fact of life (or else it 
would have been fixed sometime in the last half decade plus).

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lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread Trevor J. Lotz
I'm having an issue with a project I'm working on, and I'm hoping 
someone either has a solution, or some information to help me figure 
this out.  I'm creating a CD-ROM that has some QuickTime video, 
software demonstrations as .swf files, and some links out to HTML pages 
directly on the CD.  The problem I am having is this.

When I run the program, both in authoring and runtime modes, if I view 
a software demo, come back to the demos menu, then click to go to a 
different marker with the HTML links, open Internet Explorer, then 
close IE to come back to the Director movie, the last graphic viewed of 
the Flash movie is placed over the entire stage, with the menu buttons 
on top.  It's like it's not refreshing the screen, but it already did, 
when loading a new menu.  Very strange.

I've tried several possible things, and the only thing I can come up 
with that has really changed since the last version of this disc that 
we did, is the upgrade from Director 8.5 to MX.  This only happens on 
Windows, and again, it happens in both authoring and runtime 
environments.

I've tried to force updateStage in several places, I've changed the 
method of opening the HTML files from DirectOS to gotoNetPage, etc.  
But I can't seem to see it make any difference.  I'm stumped.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 15, 2004, at 5:21 PM, Trevor J. Lotz wrote:

I've tried to force updateStage in several places, I've changed the 
method of opening the HTML files from DirectOS to gotoNetPage, etc.  
But I can't seem to see it make any difference.  I'm stumped.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
  the stageColor = the stageColor



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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread Mathew Ray
Hi Trevor,

Try using the stagecolor = the stagecolor where you are updating the 
stage. Qlso try putting something in the same sprite channel as the 
flash to help flush it out - like a blank bitmap or something. I 
witnessed the same thing last year and these tweaks seemed to help.

~Mathew

Trevor J. Lotz wrote:
I'm having an issue with a project I'm working on, and I'm hoping 
someone either has a solution, or some information to help me figure 
this out.  I'm creating a CD-ROM that has some QuickTime video, software 
demonstrations as .swf files, and some links out to HTML pages directly 
on the CD.  The problem I am having is this.

When I run the program, both in authoring and runtime modes, if I view a 
software demo, come back to the demos menu, then click to go to a 
different marker with the HTML links, open Internet Explorer, then close 
IE to come back to the Director movie, the last graphic viewed of the 
Flash movie is placed over the entire stage, with the menu buttons on 
top.  It's like it's not refreshing the screen, but it already did, when 
loading a new menu.  Very strange.

I've tried several possible things, and the only thing I can come up 
with that has really changed since the last version of this disc that we 
did, is the upgrade from Director 8.5 to MX.  This only happens on 
Windows, and again, it happens in both authoring and runtime environments.

I've tried to force updateStage in several places, I've changed the 
method of opening the HTML files from DirectOS to gotoNetPage, etc.  But 
I can't seem to see it make any difference.  I'm stumped.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread Kyle Smeby
Mathew and Warren's advise sounds good--although I haven't tried their 
method.

I had this same problem when I upgraded to MX and the only work around 
I found then was to make sure the flash sprites were NOT direct to 
stage.  This takes  a pretty heavy toll on your frame rate, so if the 
earlier suggestions work I would definitely go with those.

	later,

		kyle

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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 15, 2004, at 7:13 PM, Kyle Smeby wrote:

Mathew and Warren's advise sounds good--although I haven't tried their 
method.
It's auld schoole, laddie. Since Dir4 at least methinks.

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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread David Benman
I had the same issue in a project last year.

Near as I could figure Director has a buffer that it writes the Flash 
and Quicktime content to that doesn't necessarily get cleared but 
does get displayed when you return from another app.

Strangely enough I remember it occuring the opposite of what was 
stated here. I thought my experience was having it appear when I was 
NOT direct to stage i.e. this is the buffer that director uses to 
display non-direct to stage stuff, both QT and flash. I think using 
direct to stage when I could eliminated the problem.

Oh, just found this which I had posted on another board:

've just been battling this same issue. I don't think unload or 
anything like that will help because this doesn't feel like its 
member based but more related to a image buffer in Director.

I had it occur when I displayed a flash movie over a quicktime movie 
then dismissed the flash movie. Then if I tried to capture the image 
of the stage or, get this, went to another app on windows and then 
returned to the projector, parts of the flash image would appear.

My solutions included never displaying flash and quicktime over each 
other on the stage and also displaying a flash movie immediately 
after the initial flash movie that had a more acceptable image even 
if it did display. In this instance, I used an image of the 
background. I just had to do some conscious management of this 
buffer.



I'm having an issue with a project I'm working on, and I'm hoping 
someone either has a solution, or some information to help me figure 
this out.  I'm creating a CD-ROM that has some QuickTime video, 
software demonstrations as .swf files, and some links out to HTML 
pages directly on the CD.  The problem I am having is this.

When I run the program, both in authoring and runtime modes, if I 
view a software demo, come back to the demos menu, then click to go 
to a different marker with the HTML links, open Internet Explorer, 
then close IE to come back to the Director movie, the last graphic 
viewed of the Flash movie is placed over the entire stage, with the 
menu buttons on top.  It's like it's not refreshing the screen, but 
it already did, when loading a new menu.  Very strange.

I've tried several possible things, and the only thing I can come up 
with that has really changed since the last version of this disc 
that we did, is the upgrade from Director 8.5 to MX.  This only 
happens on Windows, and again, it happens in both authoring and 
runtime environments.

I've tried to force updateStage in several places, I've changed the 
method of opening the HTML files from DirectOS to gotoNetPage, etc. 
But I can't seem to see it make any difference.  I'm stumped.  Any 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread macmec
Thanks to Mathew, Warren, Kyle, and David for their input on this.  I'm 
not at the office until tomorrow, so I will definitely be trying these 
ideas and I'll let everyone know what happens.

Mathew, when you say to set the stagecolor where I am updating the 
stage, are you suggesting that I do that in addition to the updateStage 
command, or instead?

On Thursday, Jan 15, 2004, at 16:51 US/Mountain, Mathew Ray wrote:

Try using the stagecolor = the stagecolor where you are updating the 
stage. Qlso try putting something in the same sprite channel as the 
flash to help flush it out - like a blank bitmap or something. I 
witnessed the same thing last year and these tweaks seemed to help.
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Re: lingo-l Residual Flash Graphics in DirMX Windows

2004-01-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jan 15, 2004, at 11:15 PM, macmec wrote:

Mathew, when you say to set the stagecolor where I am updating the 
stage, are you suggesting that I do that in addition to the 
updateStage command, or instead?
Instead of, not in addition to.

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