Re: lingo-l volume control
Hi, At 09:59 AM 4/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: The simplest thing in the universe might be to convince the powers that be at your company to spring for the OSCXtra suite from peghole.com. These Xtras include all types of system standard components (or widgets), including menus, buttons and sliders. This will not be easy. Yeah, I know what you mean. They want you to move the entire planet, but won't give you even a moderately-sized lever with which to start pushing. Well, you can't be an automotive mechanic if you do not have wrenches. Thank you for understanding... Could you elaborate further please? I find that the documentation on the site is inadequate and consists largely of promotion of their product. What exactly does it do? Is it so ' wonderful' as claimed? It provides Director programmers with a more or less complete set of system widgets, specifically buttons of various types, popup and pulldown menus, scroll bars, little arrows, and sliders. All the system standard components you see in most programs, the ones that have the system look and feel, user-selected color and font choices, etc. Does this mean that the whole program can be set at the beginning before I start authoring? Is this what you mean by system standard components? Actually, what is your personal opinion of it? I mean, I believe that there are many Xtras in the market so is this an Xtra worth buying? Its a pity that everything is quoted in US$ though. Everything becomes twice as expensive. You could insert an OSC slider in your score and attach a couple behaviors to it, and you'd be done. (It's not exactly that easy, but it's close.) What behaviors are you talking about please? Is it so easy? Almost. The OSC suite comes with behaviors, one of which gives you a lot of nice options for the slider -- including being able to set its value range, and what handlers are to be called when the user is operating it. The handlers in question would be the ones you'd use to actually set the system volume, and that's the extent of the scripting you'd have to do. Now Im almost wishing I had one of this By the way is this the only solution? For setting system volume? Not by any means. A slider's not necessary unless you're committed to the idea. Yes, Im open to anything which works. There are other ways you could do it, as with up and down arrows, for instance. Here's an example behavior for that: PROPERTY pnMySoundChannel -- Which sound channel is being set PROPERTY pyMyDirection-- Volume up, or down? () on getPropertyDescriptionList me lProps = [:] lProps.addProp( #pnMySoundChannel, [#default: 1, #format: #integer,\ #comment: Which sound channel?, #range: \ [#min:1, #max:8] ] ) lProps.addProp( #pyMyDirection, [#default: #down, #format: #symbol,\ #comment: Adjust sound down or up? #range: \ [#down, #up] ] ) return lProps END getPropertyDescriptionList You'd attach this to your up and down arrow sprites, set the properties so one would adjust the sound down and the other would adjust it up, and then whenever the user clicked the appropriate button the sound would get louder or softer. I first create two arrows in the form of buttons, is that what you mean? Or you could turn off the clicking entirely, and replace the mouseDown handler with this: on mouseWithin me me.AdjustVolume() END mouseWithin I place this handler on both buttons? Then all the user has to do is point to the appropriate button, and the sound gets louder or softer. Note, by the way, that this will affect only sound *channels* in playback, when they're being used in conjunction with a command such as puppetSound. This is only for channels 1 to 8? I need to specify something like this? : PuppetSound 2, 0 This won't affect the loudness of a file playing off disk as with sound playFile, and it won't affect the computer's overall system volume. For the sound to be played properly, sound playFile requires that the correct MIX Xtra must be available to the movie, usually in the Xtras folder of the application? This also means that the behavior is independent of the system volume? I notice that you took the time and effort to write more code Actually, I am using QT music files. You mentioned before that the sound channel range should not be 8, rather it could go up to 1000. May I amend it to this: the Get Property Description List? PROPERTY pnMySoundChannel -- Which sound channel is being set PROPERTY pyMyDirection -- Volume up, or down? on beginSprite me me.SetParams() END beginSprite on mouseDown me repeat while the stillDown me.AdjustVolume() end repeat END mouseDown on SetParams me if voidP ( pnMySoundChannel ) then pnMySoundChannel = 1 end if if voidP ( pyMyDirection ) then pyMyDirection = #down end if END
Re: lingo-l volume control
At 06:30 +0800 04/25/2002, noelle cheng wrote: The simplest thing in the universe might be to convince the powers that be at your company to spring for the OSCXtra suite from peghole.com. These Xtras include all types of system standard components (or widgets), including menus, buttons and sliders. This will not be easy. Yeah, I know what you mean. They want you to move the entire planet, but won't give you even a moderately-sized lever with which to start pushing. Well, you can't be an automotive mechanic if you do not have wrenches. Could you elaborate further please? I find that the documentation on the site is inadequate and consists largely of promotion of their product. What exactly does it do? Is it so ' wonderful' as claimed? It provides Director programmers with a more or less complete set of system widgets, specifically buttons of various types, popup and pulldown menus, scroll bars, little arrows, and sliders. All the system standard components you see in most programs, the ones that have the system look and feel, user-selected color and font choices, etc. You could insert an OSC slider in your score and attach a couple behaviors to it, and you'd be done. (It's not exactly that easy, but it's close.) What behaviors are you talking about please? Is it so easy? Almost. The OSC suite comes with behaviors, one of which gives you a lot of nice options for the slider -- including being able to set its value range, and what handlers are to be called when the user is operating it. The handlers in question would be the ones you'd use to actually set the system volume, and that's the extent of the scripting you'd have to do. By the way is this the only solution? For setting system volume? Not by any means. A slider's not necessary unless you're committed to the idea. There are other ways you could do it, as with up and down arrows, for instance. Here's an example behavior for that: PROPERTY pnMySoundChannel -- Which sound channel is being set PROPERTY pyMyDirection-- Volume up, or down? on beginSprite me me.SetParams() END beginSprite on mouseDown me repeat while the stillDown me.AdjustVolume() end repeat END mouseDown on SetParams me if voidP ( pnMySoundChannel ) then pnMySoundChannel = 1 end if if voidP ( pyMyDirection ) then pyMyDirection = #down end if END SetParams on AdjustVolume me if pyMyDirection = #down then the volume of sound pnMySoundChannel = \ the volume of sound pnMySoundChannel - 1 else the volume of sound pnMySoundChannel = \ the volume of sound pnMySoundChannel + 1 end if END AdjustVolume on getPropertyDescriptionList me lProps = [:] lProps.addProp( #pnMySoundChannel, [#default: 1, #format: #integer,\ #comment: Which sound channel?, #range: \ [#min:1, #max:8] ] ) lProps.addProp( #pyMyDirection, [#default: #down, #format: #symbol,\ #comment: Adjust sound down or up? #range: \ [#down, #up] ] ) return lProps END getPropertyDescriptionList You'd attach this to your up and down arrow sprites, set the properties so one would adjust the sound down and the other would adjust it up, and then whenever the user clicked the appropriate button the sound would get louder or softer. Or you could turn off the clicking entirely, and replace the mouseDown handler with this: on mouseWithin me me.AdjustVolume() END mouseWithin Then all the user has to do is point to the appropriate button, and the sound gets louder or softer. Note, by the way, that this will affect only sound *channels* in playback, when they're being used in conjunction with a command such as puppetSound. This won't affect the loudness of a file playing off disk as with sound playFile, and it won't affect the computer's overall system volume. -- Warren Ockrassa | http://www.nightwares.com/ Director help | Free files | Sample chapters | Freelance | Consulting Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Published by Osborne/McGraw-Hill http://www.osborne.com/indexes/beginners_guides.shtml [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l volume control
At 04:25 PM 4/23/2002 -0500, you wrote: It seems as though you've been trying to do your Director work by copying and pasting stuff from other movies. I'd strongly advise against it. Thank you for your advice. However, if you had a superior who decided that you were required to do a certain job, I think you would also try your best to produce whatever was asked. I apologize if what I have written has been impolite, ungrateful and incondite. There's no ready way to tell whether the other movie was designed with that degree of modularity in mind, and there's no ready way to tell how much verious pieces of code depend on other pieces being present. It was the code you helped me write. It is also against my conscience that you spend your precious time writing code so that I could just callously disregard it. In almost all cases when you are creating a new movie it is best to work from scratch, unless you are using code which has been specifically designed to be portable across files (i.e., the Library Palette behaviors). I understand. Perhaps you could advise me, then, how do I create volume control using the Library palette behaviors and the score? I find that using Library palette behaviors may not be able to solve all my problems. I know only that working with Lingo, trying, failing and making countless stupid, ignorant mistakes will Noelle [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l volume control
At 22:53 +0800 04/24/2002, noelle cheng wrote: I'd strongly advise against it. Thank you for your advice. However, if you had a superior who decided that you were required to do a certain job, I think you would also try your best to produce whatever was asked. That is true. Contrarily, ideally the 'superior' would also understand that if one is learning on the fly, as it were, things will take time, and that making demands for immediate production is extremely irrational and inappropriate behavior. Perhaps you could advise me, then, how do I create volume control using the Library palette behaviors and the score? Well, I'd start by breaking the task down into discrete pieces. For instance, in order to control volume you need a slider and some code that responds to the slider's operation. The simplest thing in the universe might be to convince the powers that be at your company to spring for the OSCXtra suite from peghole.com. These Xtras include all types of system standard components (or widgets), including menus, buttons and sliders. You could insert an OSC slider in your score and attach a couple behaviors to it, and you'd be done. (It's not exactly that easy, but it's close.) The trick with making a slider on your own is that you have to start by making the slider itself, and getting it to work in the way you want it to. Only after you get the slider working correctly as a slider would you want to try attaching volume controls to it. -- Warren Ockrassa | http://www.nightwares.com/ Director help | Free files | Sample chapters | Freelance | Consulting Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Published by Osborne/McGraw-Hill http://www.osborne.com/indexes/beginners_guides.shtml [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l volume control
Hi, At 11:01 AM 4/24/2002 -0500, you wrote: Thank you for recommending the Xtra. I have gone to www.peghole.com but am still unclear. The simplest thing in the universe might be to convince the powers that be at your company to spring for the OSCXtra suite from peghole.com. These Xtras include all types of system standard components (or widgets), including menus, buttons and sliders. This will not be easy. Could you elaborate further please? I find that the documentation on the site is inadequate and consists largely of promotion of their product. What exactly does it do? Is it so ' wonderful' as claimed? I have also gone through the examples but I am still unsure. You could insert an OSC slider in your score and attach a couple behaviors to it, and you'd be done. (It's not exactly that easy, but it's close.) What behaviors are you talking about please? Is it so easy? By the way is this the only solution? Noelle [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
lingo-l volume control
Hi, Could you help me please? I would like to have volume control in my program. The trouble is that I am unable to isolate the problem when I use this. There are errors which up to now, I am still unable to correct. But it is essential to have this. The volume control file by itself works. Is there any way or workaround that I may take to use this file without it being in my main movie? TIA Noelle [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l volume control
At 03:24 +0800 04/24/2002, noelle cheng wrote: The volume control file by itself works. Is there any way or workaround that I may take to use this file without it being in my main movie? It seems as though you've been trying to do your Director work by copying and pasting stuff from other movies. I'd strongly advise against it. There's no ready way to tell whether the other movie was designed with that degree of modularity in mind, and there's no ready way to tell how much verious pieces of code depend on other pieces being present. In almost all cases when you are creating a new movie it is best to work from scratch, unless you are using code which has been specifically designed to be portable across files (i.e., the Library Palette behaviors). -- Warren Ockrassa | http://www.nightwares.com/ Director help | Free files | Sample chapters | Freelance | Consulting Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Published by Osborne/McGraw-Hill http://www.osborne.com/indexes/beginners_guides.shtml [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
