Re: [LINK] Linux running under Windows?!!

2018-11-09 Thread David
On Saturday, 10 November 2018 11:54:16 AEDT Robert Brockway wrote:
> Microsoft tried to destroy Linux/open source as it perceived this to be in 
> its best interests.  It failed.  Microsoft now works with the Linux/open 
> source community as it perceives this to be in its best interests.

I think Steve Bulmer once pronounced open-source software to be "un-American"!

David L.

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Re: [LINK] Linux running under Windows?!!

2018-11-09 Thread Robert Brockway

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018, David wrote:


I wonder what is Microsoft's long-term plan?


Further integration in to the open source world I believe.

Being able to run Linux apps on Windows doesn't mean there will be 
widespread abandonment of Linux.  The trend has been in the other 
direction for a couple of decades.  Rather it means that cross platform 
apps will be easier to build.


Microsoft has been a member of the Linux Foundation since 2016.  A 
plurality (likely soon to be majority) of VMs running on Microsoft's Azure 
cloud platform are Linux systems.


Microsoft tried to destroy Linux/open source as it perceived this to be in 
its best interests.  It failed.  Microsoft now works with the Linux/open 
source community as it perceives this to be in its best interests.


Having been actively involved with the Linux/open source community for 
over a quarter century I've watched Microsoft change.  I remember when the 
Mozilla development team announced that the Microsoft IE team had 
contacted them and wanted to meet.  They tentatively agreed to the 
meeting, publicly admitting they didn't know what to expect.  That was the 
first crack in the ice and represented a change of direction (and culture) 
at Microsoft that took perhaps a decade.


I'm looking seriously at using Powershell for my next project because 
Microsoft ported it to Linux (my preferred platform), released it open 
source, and it seems like the right job for the task.


Cheers,

Rob
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Re: [LINK] Linux running under Windows?!!

2018-11-09 Thread Karl Auer
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 10:13 +1100, David wrote:
> While looking for something quite unrelated I stumbled on the article
> at https://www.howtogeek.com/265900/everything-you-can-do-with-
> windows-10s-new-bash-shell/ which describes how Linux and Linux
> applications can now be run under Windows-10.

Um, not quite. Shell stuff, yes. You get bash, and pretty much anything
command line. You can't run anything graphical as far as I know. Still,
it's a way better solution than cygwin, and you really do get the full
power of a Unix command line.

> You just have to enable the Windows
> Subsystem for Linux feature, and then install your chosen Linux
> distribution—for example, Ubuntu—from the Windows Store.

Funny they didn't call it "the Linux subssystem for Windows feature".

> I wonder what is Microsoft's long-term plan?

I think it's safe to say that their long-term plan is the same as it
ever was. "Embrace, extend, extinguish".

Regards, K.

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