[linux] looking for feedback on whether i'm designing a course the wrong way
i will apologize in advance if this comes across as marketing, since i legitimately want this group's opinion on whether i'm taking the wrong approach in designing a course on container technology. lately, since i live on fedora linux, i've been messing with their container management commands "podman" and "buildah" for, respectively, running and building container images. there is a powerful equivalence between these two tools and the corresponding docker commands: podman == docker buildah == docker build in fact, the correspondence is so perfect that many people simply install both and: $ alias docker=podman you can see the equivalence here: https://github.com/containers/libpod/blob/master/transfer.md https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2019/02/21/podman-and-buildah-for-docker-users/ and here's my problem. i prefer the podman and buildah tools -- they have some features that docker lacks but, other than that, they are literally drop-in replacements. so one can teach a container course just as appropriately using these tools (podman, buildah, skopeo) as using docker. but will people understand that? all of the folks i've talked to insist that, when clients call up looking for container training, they almost always ask, "do you teach docker?", not realizing there are more container solutions than just that. so even if the technology i'm presenting will work just as well (same underlying container runtime engines and so on), will potential clients simply say, "sorry, we're looking for docker training, thanks." open to thoughts. from the perspective of marketing, it does no good to say, "my stuff is just as good if not better" if the client says, "sorry, we want docker." rday p.s. in exchange for opinions, i'm currently writing up all sorts of container stuff here: http://crashcourse.ca/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=containers_on_fedora_30 related to containers specifically on (upcoming) fedora 30 if people want to read it. it's all publicly available, so help yourself. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] looking for feedback on whether i'm designing a course the wrong way
I think my company looked at using a 3rd party docker solution. So maybe the demand for docker for some companies is that they are outsourcing it to a company that only offers docker. I was not involved technically. I think my company ended up doing everything in house. :-) On March 30, 2019 3:30:31 PM "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: i will apologize in advance if this comes across as marketing, since i legitimately want this group's opinion on whether i'm taking the wrong approach in designing a course on container technology. lately, since i live on fedora linux, i've been messing with their container management commands "podman" and "buildah" for, respectively, running and building container images. there is a powerful equivalence between these two tools and the corresponding docker commands: podman == docker buildah == docker build in fact, the correspondence is so perfect that many people simply install both and: $ alias docker=podman you can see the equivalence here: https://github.com/containers/libpod/blob/master/transfer.md https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2019/02/21/podman-and-buildah-for-docker-users/ and here's my problem. i prefer the podman and buildah tools -- they have some features that docker lacks but, other than that, they are literally drop-in replacements. so one can teach a container course just as appropriately using these tools (podman, buildah, skopeo) as using docker. but will people understand that? all of the folks i've talked to insist that, when clients call up looking for container training, they almost always ask, "do you teach docker?", not realizing there are more container solutions than just that. so even if the technology i'm presenting will work just as well (same underlying container runtime engines and so on), will potential clients simply say, "sorry, we're looking for docker training, thanks." open to thoughts. from the perspective of marketing, it does no good to say, "my stuff is just as good if not better" if the client says, "sorry, we want docker." rday p.s. in exchange for opinions, i'm currently writing up all sorts of container stuff here: http://crashcourse.ca/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=containers_on_fedora_30 related to containers specifically on (upcoming) fedora 30 if people want to read it. it's all publicly available, so help yourself. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] looking for feedback on whether i'm designing a course the wrong way
On Sat, 30 Mar 2019, James Lockie wrote: > I think my company looked at using a 3rd party docker solution. So > maybe the demand for docker for some companies is that they are > outsourcing it to a company that only offers docker. I was not > involved technically. I think my company ended up doing everything > in house. :-) i'd be interested in what that "3rd party solution" was if you can remember it. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] PROXIES and other AGM matters
First, thanks to the OCLUG board who served this past year, and for multiple terms.. J C Nash wrote: We've always made quorum, but it has been close sometimes. The consequences of quorum failure are costly. Hi John, I don't know the directors. Perhaps others don't either, therefore they might not care about the election and annual meeting. Could candidate statements be posted on the wiki and/or on this list? Like: Who are you? Why do you want to run for the board? Where do you see OCLUG going in the next year? What do you want to accomplish? It's unlikely that I'd fill out a proxy for people I don't know. Does the board present a report at the annual meeting? I think interest might be elevated with a slightly higher profile AGM and election process. cheers, Brett To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
[linux] Repeat: Reminder of the 2019 AGM
REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER REMINDER - The April talk announcement will go out this weekend in a separate mailing. This announcement is being sent to ensure we get sufficient members or proxies to have our AGM. This message will be repeated a couple of days prior to the AGM. - The April meeting starts with our AGM as required by the corporation bylaws. At present, we have the following candidates for the board: - Bruce Davis - Ian Gorman - Ed Hong - Scott Murphy - John Nash - Tug Williams If anyone else is interested in being on the board, feel free to self- nominate no later than April 2nd, 2019. If several people are willing to come on board, a few of us are willing to withdraw our intent in order to get some new blood in. Just so everyone is aware, four board members is sufficient, six would be better in case of circumstances requiring an existing member to step down. In addition, according to the bylaws of the non-profit corporation, we require at least 20 members people to be present, either in person or via proxy. We will have a sign-up sheet for the election and will require all present to sign in order to prove the election was held in compliance with the bylaws. If we do not have the requisite number of people/proxies, we are required to repeat this at every future meeting until we do meet the criteria. If you are not going to be there, please register a proxy. To meet the member criteria, our official member roster is this mailing list. Proxies can be registered by sending an email to either John Nash (john dot nash at uottawa dot ca) or Scott Murphy (scott dot murphy at arrow dash eye dot com) prior to 17:00 on Wednesday, April 3rd or that we have a record prior to the election. The email should be in the form of the example in the bylaws, replicated below: cut—— OTTAWA CANADA LINUX USERS GROUP Proxy Appointment The undersigned member of the OTTAWA CANADA LINUX USERS GROUP hereby appoints _ of _ or failing in person appointed above, _ of _ as the proxy of the undersigned to attend and act at the OCLUG meeting to be held on the day of _, and at any adjournment thereof in the same manner, to the same extent and with the same power as if the undersigned were present. Dated this day of _. Legal name of Member: _. Email address of Member: _. —cut— At the request of another board member to ensure the above makes sense, the following is an example of filled out example would look something like: OTTAWA CANADA LINUX USERS GROUP Proxy Appointment The undersigned member of the OTTAWA CANADA LINUX USERS GROUP hereby appoints Scott Murphy of Ottawa or failing in person appointed above, John Nash of Ottawa as the proxy of the undersigned to attend and act at the OCLUG meeting to be held on the day of April 4, 2019, and at any adjournment thereof in the same manner, to the same extent and with the same power as if the undersigned were present. Dated this day of _April_1,_2019_. Legal name of Member: _Tux_T._Penguin_. Email address of Member: _tux@linux-ottawa.org_. The signup sheet expects legal name, email address and signature. In place of a signature on this form, use your legal name and email address and your proxy will sign on your behalf. We will record the proxies on the signup sheet in advance. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
