Re: [linux] Newbie help request

2019-07-13 Thread Steve Miles 
Hi Scott

Yes I had discovered this site and have been going through everything.. I am 
slowly making some progress. Also from the other online info I have so far been 
able to create a bootable USB with Mint linux on it ready to install.I just 
rebooted and finally was able to see this USB and it loaded Grub and was ready 
to proceed. I first need to get rEFInd set up and working which will hopefully 
happen tomorrow. I already have 1 Linux partition and a swap partition 
configured. If I can get this to happen at least once.. Look out lol.


Slow and steady wins the race


> On Jul 13, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Scott Murphy  wrote:
> 
> I’m hoping you ran across the instructions for rEFInd on Rod’s site:
> https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/index.html 
> 
> 
> There is a section on getting it to work on macs with and without the SIP. 
> Since you mentioned Sierra, you should use these instructions:
> https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/sip.html 
> 
> 
> You will need to repartition your hard drive though, as there is no place to 
> install an additional bootable OS. You should dedicate a partition to each OS 
> just to keep things clean. Assuming you have lots of free space, decide how 
> much you want to keep for macOS and then add partitions that are the size you 
> want to use for as many Linux installs you want to play with. If you have a 
> GPT disk, it supports 256 partitions, so you are probably safe.
> 
> Make sure you leave some free space on your mac partition or you may have 
> issues with available space if you boot into macOS.
> 
> Assume you will be using at least 20GB/Linux install.
> 
> Make a backup before you start playing. Use something like SuperDuper or 
> CarbonCopy Cloner to make a bootable image on an external USB drive. You can 
> always boot from that later and it can act as a source for a restore.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Steve Miles > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have set it up with the ram maxed out
>> 
>> Steve Miles
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2019, at 12:14 PM, J C Nash >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve, Since you have lots of disk and a fair bit of RAM, does
>>> increasing the RAM for the VM help. I've found a small RAM for
>>> the guest slows things down quite a bit. Also, of course, running
>>> multiple VM guests and/or host activity at same time.
>>> 
>>> Best, JN
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2019-07-12 11:45 a.m., Steve Miles wrote:
   Greetings fellow members,
 
 I am new at discovering Linux and want to learn a lot more.
 
 I have a Mac mini late 2014 with macOS Sierra. 8 GB ram and tons of hard 
 drive space
 
 I have been able to get mint and ubuntu installed in a virtual box but it 
 works sluggishly since the computer is sharing CPU etc with 2 operating 
 systems.
 
 I would like to have the ability to multi boot and choose which operating 
 system installs on its own. I have explored Refind as a multi boot option 
 but cannot get it to work for whatever reason.
 
 I have looked at a ton of web sites and youtube videos to no avail.
 
 Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated if anyone has experience with 
 a Mac mini.  
 
 Steve the Linux Newbie
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Re: [linux] Newbie help request

2019-07-13 Thread Scott Murphy 
I’m hoping you ran across the instructions for rEFInd on Rod’s site:
https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/index.html 


There is a section on getting it to work on macs with and without the SIP. 
Since you mentioned Sierra, you should use these instructions:
https://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/sip.html 


You will need to repartition your hard drive though, as there is no place to 
install an additional bootable OS. You should dedicate a partition to each OS 
just to keep things clean. Assuming you have lots of free space, decide how 
much you want to keep for macOS and then add partitions that are the size you 
want to use for as many Linux installs you want to play with. If you have a GPT 
disk, it supports 256 partitions, so you are probably safe.

Make sure you leave some free space on your mac partition or you may have 
issues with available space if you boot into macOS.

Assume you will be using at least 20GB/Linux install.

Make a backup before you start playing. Use something like SuperDuper or 
CarbonCopy Cloner to make a bootable image on an external USB drive. You can 
always boot from that later and it can act as a source for a restore.

Have fun!

> On Jul 12, 2019, at 11:18 PM, Steve Miles  wrote:
> 
> I have set it up with the ram maxed out
> 
> Steve Miles
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2019, at 12:14 PM, J C Nash  wrote:
>> 
>> Steve, Since you have lots of disk and a fair bit of RAM, does
>> increasing the RAM for the VM help. I've found a small RAM for
>> the guest slows things down quite a bit. Also, of course, running
>> multiple VM guests and/or host activity at same time.
>> 
>> Best, JN
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2019-07-12 11:45 a.m., Steve Miles wrote:
>>>   Greetings fellow members,
>>> 
>>> I am new at discovering Linux and want to learn a lot more.
>>> 
>>> I have a Mac mini late 2014 with macOS Sierra. 8 GB ram and tons of hard 
>>> drive space
>>> 
>>> I have been able to get mint and ubuntu installed in a virtual box but it 
>>> works sluggishly since the computer is sharing CPU etc with 2 operating 
>>> systems.
>>> 
>>> I would like to have the ability to multi boot and choose which operating 
>>> system installs on its own. I have explored Refind as a multi boot option 
>>> but cannot get it to work for whatever reason.
>>> 
>>> I have looked at a ton of web sites and youtube videos to no avail.
>>> 
>>> Any help or suggestions greatly appreciated if anyone has experience with a 
>>> Mac mini.  
>>> 
>>> Steve the Linux Newbie
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Re: [linux] git pull vs svn up

2019-07-13 Thread Brenda J. Butler 


To "throw away modifications in your sandbox" you don't have to
git pull (or git fetch, as I prefer to do).  You can:

git reset --hard HEAD

It will make your workspace match the HEAD commit on the current
branch.  It will not remove files that are not being tracked.  For
that you need

   git clean

At this point, you still need to git pull (or

   git fetch
   git rebase remote-tracking-branch
   
as I prefer) to get the remote changes.

bjb


On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:14:41AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, J C Nash wrote:
> 
> > For my own work I mostly use svn since I have it well-established on
> > my uottawa VPS. However, I'm using gitlab for a project I share with
> > others.
> >
> > Am I correct that
> >
> >   git pull
> >
> > will NOT restore files that have somehow been deleted or renamed?
> 
>   i'm not sure how to best clarify this, but git has a very different
> model of committing changes in that, when you clone a git repo, you
> get the *entire* history of the repo. what this means is that, as part
> of a normal git workflow, since you have that entire history, you're
> expected to fix any "oopses" *locally* -- perhaps with having made
> your changes on a local branch, perhaps checking out a deleted file
> from another branch that still contains the file, or perhaps doing a
> "git reset --hard" or "git revert" to undo the effect of said
> deletion.
> 
>   the git push/pull/fetch commands are most emphatically *not*
> designed to fix oopses in your local repo -- they are meant for
> exchanging new content between repositories. except in very rare
> circumstances (total meltdown of local repo, for example), it is not
> some other repository's responsibility to help you recover from
> simple local mistakes like deleting a file.
> 
> rday
> 
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Re: [linux] git pull vs svn up

2019-07-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day 
On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, J C Nash wrote:

> For my own work I mostly use svn since I have it well-established on
> my uottawa VPS. However, I'm using gitlab for a project I share with
> others.
>
> Am I correct that
>
>   git pull
>
> will NOT restore files that have somehow been deleted or renamed?

  i'm not sure how to best clarify this, but git has a very different
model of committing changes in that, when you clone a git repo, you
get the *entire* history of the repo. what this means is that, as part
of a normal git workflow, since you have that entire history, you're
expected to fix any "oopses" *locally* -- perhaps with having made
your changes on a local branch, perhaps checking out a deleted file
from another branch that still contains the file, or perhaps doing a
"git reset --hard" or "git revert" to undo the effect of said
deletion.

  the git push/pull/fetch commands are most emphatically *not*
designed to fix oopses in your local repo -- they are meant for
exchanging new content between repositories. except in very rare
circumstances (total meltdown of local repo, for example), it is not
some other repository's responsibility to help you recover from
simple local mistakes like deleting a file.

rday

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Re: [linux] git pull vs svn up

2019-07-13 Thread J C Nash 
Yes local delete (with or without commit), likely via GUI tools and fumble
fingers.

JN


On 2019-07-13 9:34 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, J C Nash wrote:
> 
>> For my own work I mostly use svn since I have it well-established on
>> my uottawa VPS. However, I'm using gitlab for a project I share with
>> others.
>>
>> Am I correct that
>>
>>   git pull
>>
>> will NOT restore files that have somehow been deleted or renamed?
> 
>   "git pull" will do two things:
> 
> 1) fetch new content from the upstream, then
> 2) *attempt* to merge that new content into your master branch
>(assuming it's your master branch you're working with)
> 
>   are you asking about files you've renamed or deleted locally, and
> committed locally as well?
> 
> rday
> 

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Re: [linux] git pull vs svn up

2019-07-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day 
On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, J C Nash wrote:

> For my own work I mostly use svn since I have it well-established on
> my uottawa VPS. However, I'm using gitlab for a project I share with
> others.
>
> Am I correct that
>
>   git pull
>
> will NOT restore files that have somehow been deleted or renamed?

  "git pull" will do two things:

1) fetch new content from the upstream, then
2) *attempt* to merge that new content into your master branch
   (assuming it's your master branch you're working with)

  are you asking about files you've renamed or deleted locally, and
committed locally as well?

rday

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[linux] git pull vs svn up

2019-07-13 Thread J C Nash 
For my own work I mostly use svn since I have it well-established on my uottawa 
VPS.
However, I'm using gitlab for a project I share with others.

Am I correct that

  git pull

will NOT restore files that have somehow been deleted or renamed?

As far as I can determine,

  svn up

will restore such files, but so far I've not found the equivalent git command.
Do I need to "git checkout filename" for each of the lost files?

I'm asking so I can avoid messing up repos, not to excite git vs. svn noise.

JN

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