Re: [linux] September meeting announcement: 2024-09-05 @ 19:00 EDT

[Dmitriy Korovkin via linux]

On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 03:00:59PM -0400, Tug Williams wrote:
> Hi Dmitriy
Hi Tug,

> > I have been running a couple of old comps as X servers of this kind or
> > another. With much real work done in the clouds, is it a "make a thin client
> > great again" thing?
> 
> Just a new machine at a $500 price point. I also use thin clients, remote
> desktops, distributed builds (and Gentoo), but I have found that "new
> battery for old hardware" really doesn't make much economic sense. I tried
> the same with a 1Gb single core x86 notebook, and running X (formally known
> as X) apps was painfully slow, even with a custom gentoo build.
> 
> As for saving the planet, I've not attempted the calculation of constantly
> charging a dying battery on an inefficient 10 year old notebook vs buying a
> new Raspberry Pi, or indeed the new HP laptop I ended up getting.
> 
> My talk is really just a starting point, and I'm sure it will go in whatever
> direction others want to take it. I'd be interested in hearing other
> experiences of "make a thin client great again", especially if I can own my
> own cloud.
I would be interested to hear about your usecase. As I look around I seem to
see thin clients all over the place: old tablet runs as an X server for
Raspberry Pi, a Raspberry Pi runs as an X server for the desktop, the
desktop runs as an X server for the working computer and so on. May be it's
just me though.

> > Have been doing this stuff for couple of years. Wiz2MQTT is opensourced:
> > https://gitlab.com/dnkorovkin/wiz2mqtt The similar ble2mqtt for BLE devices
> > was it's predecessor and not well designed, so I decided to keep it at home.
> 
> I remember your talk, and acquired a discarded govee light recently, and
> have had your project on my todo list for a while. But... I'm moving home at
> the moment, which partly prompted the setting up a new stand alone laptop so
> I could survive without the cloud, and not have to remember where anything
> was packed!
Since then it has grown up a bit. OpenHAB collects temperature/humidity from
all over the house, manages lights with the rules that grow quite
interesting. Challenges are unavoidable, of course, but the whole
construction seems quite stable.
> 
> Tug

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Re: [linux] September meeting announcement: 2024-09-05 @ 19:00 EDT

[Dmitriy Korovkin via linux]

On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 04:00:49PM -0400, Scott Murphy via linux wrote:
> /Topics/
> 
>  *
>A quick logistical question - might expand a little
>  *
>Using a (relatively) cheap laptop as a primary machine
>  o
>Tug will have a talk/discussion on his acquisition of a “cheap”
>laptop for real work.
I have been running a couple of old comps as X servers of this kind or
another. With much real work done in the clouds, is it a "make a thin client 
great again" thing? 
>  *
>Owning your lighting (not lightning)
>  o
>Scott will have a short talk on converting a lamp to an IoT
>device without sending info to the cloud.
Have been doing this stuff for couple of years. Wiz2MQTT is opensourced: 
https://gitlab.com/dnkorovkin/wiz2mqtt The similar ble2mqtt for BLE devices
was it's predecessor and not well designed, so I decided to keep it at home.

> 
> 
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> scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com

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[linux] New Wiz2MQTT project for OpenSource home automation enthusuasts

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Hi guys,

A while ago I have written an agent that connects WiZ lamps 
https://www.wizconnected.com/en-ca and MQTT server. The source code is 
available at GitLab: https://gitlab.com/dnkorovkin/wiz2mqtt


The project is under the active development. I keep adding features 
when time permits. The project needs help.


Cheers,
/Dmitriy

Re: Next up: DKIM (was Re: [linux] Is the mailing list SPF setup fixed?)

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

On Tue, 15 Nov, 2022 at 8:36 AM, Dianne Skoll  wrote:

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 03:04:42 -0500
Dmitriy Korovkin  wrote:


 If you wish some additional statistics, Gmail tests pass just fine.


That's good!  Thanks for letting me know.


 I am afraid if we remove "DKIM-Signature:" headers, the spam filters
 might not like it


Unlikely.  I don't DKIM-sign messages to the list (but I do normally 
DKIM-sign

all my outbound mail) and there have been no problems so far.

The correct way a mailing list should work is as follows: Suppose the
envelope sender and header From: addresses are both 
"some...@example.org"


Then the addresses should be changed as follows:

Envelope sender: 


From: 
Sender: 

and then any existing DKIM-Signature header should be stripped and 
ideally

a new one added that signes for linux-ottawa.org


 You receive a sort of "DKIM signature invalid" error by the spam
 filter, right?


Yep.  Adding the list footer alters the message body, which breaks the
signature.
Indeed, the mailing list alternates the mail body and that is what 
breaks DKIM. Well, in this I agree with you: mailing list should update 
both SPF and DKIM records or remove DKIM record from the header if it 
does not do DKIM signing.

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Dianne.

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Re: Next up: DKIM (was Re: [linux] Is the mailing list SPF setup fixed?)

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Hi Dianne,
If you wish some additional statistics, Gmail tests pass just fine.

I am afraid if we remove "DKIM-Signature:" headers, the spam filters 
might not like i


You receive a sort of "DKIM signature invalid" error by the spam 
filter, right?


Regards,
/Dmitriy

On Mon, 14 Nov, 2022 at 5:09 PM, Dianne Skoll  wrote:

Katie's list message was quarantined:

5	DKIM query returned fail (body has been altered) 
(d=uottawa.onmicrosoft.com)


so we should configure the mailing list software to remove any
DKIM-Signature: headers.  If that can't be done, it's very easy with
a milter or with a Postfix header check configuration as in
https://serverfault.com/questions/91954/how-do-i-remove-received-headers-from-emails

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[linux] Meeting chats

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Colleagues, as requested, here is the chat log:

far
https://imgflip.com/i/3sfi6r
far says:that sounded clear
19:04
JF Messier
JF Messier says:I can hear you
JF Messier says:👍
19:10
Rob-ish Enterprise quote
Rob-ish Enterprise quote says:Lots of people are blaming Red Hat. I 
would blame IBM, or, perhaps "I Blame Mercantilism (IBM)".

19:23
far
far says:RockyLinux has core developer from CentOS project - so a 
critical mass could be said to exist at this time to carry it forward 
as a stable option - merging changes  as necessary

19:40
Ian M
Ian M says:I have been using Ubuntu for the last 2 1/2 years, currently 
22.04.1 with 5.15.0-52-generic kernel on a Ryzen 5 3600.  This is for 
personal use, I am quite happy with it.

19:46
far
far says:There are differences in library support, package 
names/dependencies and gcc/glibc in terms when going from CentOS to 
Ubuntu server - however 1) many packages are binary rpm 2) recompiling 
to Ubuntu has a few differences if config/make doesn't find them 
already for particular code.  Ubuntu can deliver newer pkg in some 
cases, but that might cause an issue for some older code

19:46
Rob Echlin, exploring stuff
Rob Echlin, exploring stuff says:Thanks, Richard, for clarifying that 
the changes to CentOS were so soon after IBM buy of RH.

19:46
far
far says:Use KVM/qemu and libvirt to host Ubuntu22 for checking compat
19:48
Rob Echlin, exploring stuff
Rob Echlin, exploring stuff says:Is there such a thing as a set of 
guides for migrating between each of the major Linux versions?

19:49
JF Messier
JF Messier says:When choosing between Ubuntu (or other Debian-based OS) 
and RedHat (or other OS based on it), this is something that gets more 
important as the number of servers grows.

19:53
far
far says:In some federal env there are both RedHat/CentOS and Ubuntu
19:54
JF Messier
JF Messier says:There are also SLES-based depts too.
JF Messier says:This gets interesting when supporting different distros 
of linux that have their own ways of managing the packages, as well as 
managing the licenses.

19:56
Ian M
Ian M says:If you don't mind a rather dry read, try this tome...
Ian M says:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

20:01
far
far says:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Linux

20:01
JF Messier
JF Messier says:Red Hat offers free accounts for up to 16 servers, 
provided that those are using the LATEST version, and that there is no 
formal support (like you cannot open an incident). You have access to 
some knowledge base, but that's about it.

20:05
far
far says:Some users of centos include HPC as the licensing costs add up 
when you have 256 servers in a cluster.

20:06
JF Messier
JF Messier says:It should still be available to developers, AFAIK.
JF Messier says:👍
JF Messier says:Select the text with the mouse, copy/paste in a text 
editor and save.

JF Messier says:Not very nice text, would require *some* formatting.
JF Messier says:I would recommend considering Mint. I use it as my main 
driver for multiple hings, including VMs and VPNs and it works very 
well.

JF Messier says:Things change a lot over 4 years 😃
20:12
far
far says:How often does gentoo portage have to be update before it is a 
major chore?
far says:Is it now stable enough to emerge after a long time with-out 
fearing it gets stuck

20:14
Rob Echlin, exploring stuff
Rob Echlin, exploring stuff says:Rocky Linux: Looking at the web site, 
I found, in the FAQ, that there is indeed a foundation, with the intent 
that no one entity or org can control it.

Also, I could not find any way to pay support to Rocky Linux.
However, some of the sponsors provide support contracts.
20:20
far
far says:Does truth social implement a reputation system or shun it 
like a communist "truth broadcaster" would?

20:28
JF Messier
JF Messier says:@Richard and Katie. You are not muted. We can hear you/

Regards,
/Dmitriy

Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be factually correct)

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

If it's Gentoo, I am all ears.
/Dmitriy

On Wed, 2 Nov, 2022 at 3:27 PM, Tug Williams  
wrote:
Yes there will, once it is clear what the topics will be... I have 
some (partially prepared) back up plans, to add to a CentOS 
discussion. Worst case, I can always share my Joy of Gentoo, which 
would fit into a "distro" theme...


If anyone else has a topic they'd like to talk about, then let me 
know, and I'll give you priority :)


I will clarify tomorrow, but there will be an online meeting, and 
hopefully RGB will be able to connect and join his remote friends.


Tug

On 02/11/2022 15:10, Ian wrote:

Hi all,

Ian MacWilliam here.  Here being Perth.  I really appreciate the 
ability to remotely join in without having to drive in and try to 
find parking, the building, the room, etc.  It's been a long time 
since any of my kids attended Ottawa U and much has changed, not to 
mention Ottawa construction (or the price of gas).


So, will the linux-ottawa.org website be updated with a meeting 
announcement and jitsi link?


Thanks,

Ian M.

P.S.  While you are not on your smart phone, I suggest reading 
something by Jaron Lanier.  He is very interesting. 
http://www.jaronlanier.com/




On 2022-11-02 14:43, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

On 2022-11-02 18:39, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Hm..seems pretty smart to me.
Would be interested in your thoughts on the Pine64 project, but 
that's probably a conversation better had at a user group 
meeting.
I am aware of it.  I may be in the market around retirement when 
travel

is likely to become a more serious occupation.


-Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 14:34
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be 
factually correct)


Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-02 17:37, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:

Richard - you don't even have a pager?
No.  I remember pretty clearly in 1995 riding my Miyata 1000LT 
west on
Baseline at Prince of Wales thinking how it would be pretty cool 
to be

able to call one of my friends at that point.  As with most of my
consumer purchases, I waited a week for a "sober second thought", 
and by
the end of that week I concluded there was no good reason anyone 
needed
to get a hold of me that urgently.  Once smart phones came out in 
the
mid-2000s and the way people were using them, I confirmed my 
initial
decision not to join that culture.  I prefer to be "fully present" 
in

public.

I've worked at a couple of hospitals, and whenever I still see 
those things, they remind me of better days (of course, 
they're usually on doctors).


-Katie


From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 02 November 2022 13:31
To: Brett Delmage 
Cc: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting Thursday night (edited to be 
factually correct)


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On 2022-11-02 11:44, Brett Delmage wrote:

On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:

The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.

...


Is this a OCLUG meeting or a Beer SIG?

"yes".

"In person" is not the same as maskless. People can have 
perfectly valuable
and enjoyable social interactions while still respectfully 
wearing masks, as

has been established the past two years.
They are even better when food is shared.  The Linux Plumbers 
Conference

and Linux Security Summit we attended in September in Dublin
demonstrated that very clearly.

But not in a bar this week. Such a choice, especially without 
concern and
action to involve virtual participants who may be the most 
isolated, is

exclusionary at the least, IMO.
*I* don't have a mobile device, but I'm not adverse to having 
someone

with such a device join us and connect to the virtual meeting.


Ottawa has its most COVID-19 hospitalizations in 9 months
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/covid19-ottawa-current-cases-status-november-2022-1.6636608 

I've been following the poop-meter regularly for more than two 
years:

 https://613covid.ca/wastewater/

Mine is a personal choice.  I am comfortable with my informed risk
taking into account vaccine status and previous exposure and the 
risk to

other household members.

I'm not a member of TUPOC (they are currently hanging out at the
public archives and national library...).

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Re: [linux] Meeting tonight

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

I would prefer virtual meeting. Much more convenient.
/Dmitriy

On Tue, 1 Nov, 2022 at 4:03 PM, Ian E. Gorman  
wrote:

Will the Thursday meeting be entirely on Jitsi?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 12:39 PM Katherine Mcmillan 
 wrote:

Hi Richard,

I would love to hear about your thoughts/experiences on this!

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 12:35:26 PM
To: Tug Williams 
Cc: Katherine Mcmillan ; linux@linux-ottawa.org 
; Jean-Francois Messier 

Subject: Re: [linux] Meeting tonight

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2022-11-01 12:12, Tug Williams wrote:
> Katie,
>
> I'd be interested to know what you're referring to, as I'm not a 
CentOS
> person... I could google, but I'd also be happy to hear on 
Thursday :)


As an employee of the organization responsible for that disto, I may
have some opinions about the subject...  ;-)It was a bit messy...

> I also have a few discussion topics related to Dr Chen's talk. I 
have

> written a few notes, but nothing as concrete as "a talk".
>
>
> My 3 sub-topics (follow up questions from his the talk) relate to
>
> - open data formats (I have opinions)
> - data security (I have questions)
> - who pays the ferryman? (I have opinions and questions)
>
>
> Unrelatedley - I also did some initial investigation into Mastodon 
as an
> open source replacement for Twitter, which could lead to an 
interesting
> discussion. Maybe others have more experience. Alas I didn't get 
as far as

> successfully installing a server.
>
>
> So if there is interest, I think we have enough material for a few 
jitsi

> based discussions on Thursday.
>
>
> Tug
>
>
>
> On 01/11/2022 11:50, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> >Hi Jean-Francois,
> >
> >I am happy to attend a meeting on Thursday.?? I regret missing 
last

> >month's meeting as Home Assistant and home automation are really
> >interesting to me, however, I was unexpectedly detained.
> >
> >I would love to know about everyone's experiences around the 
changes to
> >CentOS 7/8.?? Personally, those affected my thesis work - I'd 
like to know
> >how/if they affected others and what others did.?? I'd be happy 
to explain

> >the changes I'm talking about, if needed.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Katie
> 
>

> >*From:* Jean-Francois Messier 
> >*Sent:* 01 November 2022 11:45
> >*To:* linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> >*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting tonight
> >*Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> >Yeah, actually, this is not tonight, but Thursday night. I stand
> >corrected.
> >
> >
> >On 2022-11-01T11:36:26.000-04:00, Jean-Francois Messier 


> >wrote:
> >
> >Do we have any topic, location, hours for tonight meeting ?
> >
> >Thanks :-)
> >
> >JF Messier (j...@messier.ca )
> >
> >

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Re: [linux] Details for tomorrow's meeting ?

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

As far as I am concern, on-line. John will post the announcement.

Regards,
/Dmitriy

On Wed, 5 Oct, 2022 at 11:18 PM, Jean-Francois Messier  
wrote:

In-person, or only online ? And how to connect ? Thanks :-)

Jean-Francois Messier
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Re: [linux] moving main OS partition

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Hi John,
For the sake of saving future headache I would recommend just make the 
unused disk /home. This will save your time for the next upgrades.


As a side note, I take it that the October meeting is going to be 
OpenSource home automation. Correct me if I am wrong.


Regards,
/Dmitriy

On Tue, 13 Sep, 2022 at 1:23 PM, J C Nash  wrote:

Hi,

Recently upgraded my wife's machine from Linux Mint 20.3 to Linux 
Mint 21.


We decided to use the "install beside" option. This took the 500GB 
nvme disk and
shrank the LM20.3 partition (leaving GPT partition) to about 300GB, 
created a

new approx 200GB partition and installed LM21 in the latter.

This has allowed us to simply copy a lot of the config files (e.g., 
Thunderbird
and Double Commander) and avoid a lot of customization effort. The 
email was

back right away.

But ... Once we've got all the working files sorted out, we've a 
300GB blob more
or less unused. (There is also a 2TB mirrored ZFS volume for files. 
Mainly

long term files, but only about 30% full.)

Goal: remove the 300GB partition, shift LM21 partition and expand it.

As far as I can understand, simply using gparted via a live USB OS 
will move
the partition, but leave it unbootable, though running grub2 should 
restore

things.

Alternatively, it may be smart to use liveUSB OS and image the LM21 
e.g., to
the ZFS volume, then clone it back to the 300GB partition. Possibly 
this
could be done WITHOUT destroying the 200GB partition until it is 
clear the
copy boots OK. Then destroy the 200GB partition and expand the 300GB 
one.


Suggestions welcome. Possibly a good meeting topic. There are a 
number of web

postings, but not too many that suggest a straightforward solution.

John Nash

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Re: [linux] Fwd: Home automation and concept art

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Hi Katie,
In fact, I was interested if someone would present a project made by 
Home Assistant as the IDE. I learned about it after a half of my own 
project was done, so I did not make an actual comparison, but from the 
articles and videos I got an impression that it and OpenHAB are quite 
close in terms of provided functionality and probably supported devices.

Looking forward to listen to your presentation,
/Dmitriy

On Fri, 2 Sep, 2022 at 6:07 PM, Katherine Mcmillan 
 wrote:

Hi Dmitriy,

This is a great idea! I don't think I'll have a formal presentation, 
however, I have been attempting to automate parts of the indoor 
growing process (for herbs and such) with Home Assistant as part of a 
hobby project.  Automation of soil moisture level monitoring and 
watering are possible, and monitoring of sunlight, air quality, and 
temperature are fairly straightforward. PH monitoring and 
stabilization is more of an issue... I may have further thoughts to 
share at the meetup.


Personally, I like the idea of having a virtual/remote meeting this 
time around as you will be providing a demo, and I will be out of the 
country :)


Looking forward to this topic!
Katie
From: Dmitriy Korovkin 
Sent: 02 September 2022 16:51
To: Richard Guy Briggs 
Cc: Ian! D. Allen ; Linux-Ottawa 


Subject: Re: [linux] Fwd: Home automation and concept art

Attention : courriel externe | external email
With September meeting passed, how about we plan OpenSource in home 
automation talk for the October meeting?
I will start with OpenHAB as visualization and scripting IDE, Zephyr 
as a sensor OS, GATT and MQTT as communication solutions.
Richard, will you present your project? Do we have other presenters 
or shall we start a discussion after?
I suggest the meeting goes virtual since I am planning to demonstrate 
some OpenHAB in action that I can do only at home.


Thoughts and comments?
/Dmitriy

On Sat, 27 Aug, 2022 at 4:16 PM, Dmitriy Korovkin 
 wrote:
I would prefer to talk about used tools and technologies rather than 
pieces of hardware. There are myriads of boards and even mo re senso 
rs, we can't cover them all.


Regards,
/Dmitriy

Re: [linux] Fwd: Home automation and concept art

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

With September meeting passed, how about we plan OpenSource in home 
automation talk for the October meeting?
I will start with OpenHAB as visualization and scripting IDE, Zephyr as 
a sensor OS, GATT and MQTT as communication solutions.
Richard, will you present your project? Do we have other presenters or 
shall we start a discussion after?
I suggest the meeting goes virtual since I am planning to demonstrate 
some OpenHAB in action that I can do only at home.


Thoughts and comments?
/Dmitriy

On Sat, 27 Aug, 2022 at 4:16 PM, Dmitriy Korovkin 
 wrote:
I would prefer to talk about used tools and technologies rather than 
pieces of hardware. There are myriads of boards and even more 
sensors, we can't cover them all.


Regards,
/Dmitriy

Re: [linux] Fwd: Home automation and concept art

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

I would prefer to talk about used tools and technologies rather than 
pieces of hardware. There are myriads of boards and even more sensors, 
we can't cover them all.


Regards,
/Dmitriy

Re: OSCAR [linux] Call for Talks

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Just in case the e-mail was lost somehow, this were my common cents :-):
My view on this process as of an outsider, is that government medical 
officials certify the whole system in general.
This brings the next point that the companies may chose a certain OS as 
a base for the system which is in it's turn is based on the cost of 
development, possible maintenance, tools availability, components 
certification status, components stability and several other factors.
This, in turn, brings a point that using OSS solution in particularly 
medical systems looks similar to using them in other areas such as 
networking/car industry/aviation/manufacturing/etc and depends on 
particular area equipment nature, certification (needed/not needed, 
easy to do/better not even start) process, so on, so on.

Just my two common cents,

And also, here is the possible reading on Manitoba certification of the 
medical information systems:

https://sharedhealthmb.ca/services/digital-health/electronic-medical-records/

Some generic thoughts on certified systems:
It is likely that any OS to be used in medicine needs to be 
"certified". This process might be from "tedious" to "practically 
impossible" depending on the requirements. To go through the process 
the group or company needs to be strongly motivated. The company is 
usually motivated by a possible income that any certified system brings.


If there is a desired wish to certify Linux in general or any 
particular distribution not associated with a company that supports it, 
then this process just needs to be done as most things in OpenSource: 
if you want it done, do it yourself and then publish it.


Regards,
/Dmitriy

/Dmitriy

On Fri, 26 Aug, 2022 at 9:51 AM, Katherine Mcmillan 
 wrote:

Hello all,

Thank you for your interest and feedback!  Dr. David Chan will be 
presenting to us on OSCAR EMR at next week's User Group meeting.  He 
will be the best person to give us the history and tackle questions 
related to this open source Electronic Medical Record system.


I'm also not going to act cool and well-connected.  My hands are 
still shaking from receiving the email this morning from Dr. Chan.


Sincerely,
Katie


From: Rick Leir 
Sent: 26 August 2022 08:21
To: Katherine Mcmillan ; Znoteer 
; Linux-Ottawa 

Subject: Re: OSCAR [linux] Call for Talks

Attention : courriel externe | external email
Hi Katie and all,
There is technical interest, clearly.

But also business and career development interest, and that will make 
your Professional Development Club happy. TelusHealth is making big 
bucks in their business, and OSS competitors could do very well in 
grabbing a bite of the pie.

Cheers
Rick

On August 25, 2022 10:55:07 p.m. EDT, Katherine Mcmillan 
 wrote:

Hi Znoteer,

Thank you for this! I agree, this would be an interesting topic - 
and seems pretty relevant right at the moment.


This is one of those topics that brings about basic questions, such 
as: why are different EMR systems being used by different 
provinces/territories? How/Why did OSCAR come to be? Why is 
something like open-source OSCAR highly regarded in BC (they even 
have a co-op group called "OpenOSP" with lovely board members, I 
recommend checking them out), but little known elsewhere, and I 
think is referred to as "Unofficial", "Unlicensed" or some other 
"Un" adjective in Ontario (unlike the, for example, official Telus 
systems)? Who is doing the health systems software 
licensing/approval process in different provinces/territories? Then, 
of course, other questions arise.


I think if an OSS user group (which presumably has more expertise in 
software, open source development, licensing, etc.) has such a 
topic/discussion, this could theoretically push politicians to ask 
the same basic questions, which would be wonderful for everyone.  
Anyway, sorry to get political, my interest in this topic is more 
technical in nature 😄


Sincerely,
Katie
From: Znoteer 
Sent: 25 August 2022 22:17
To: Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: OSCAR [linux] Call for Talks

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 12:26:17AM +, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hello all,

> On a side note, I have reached out to the OSCAR BC mailing list to 
see if I can get someone to speak to us about their use of Linux and 
the OSCAR EMR (ex. someone with a current support business, 
physician, etc.).  To my surprise, I am finding more use of FreeBSD 
and OpenBSD than I was expecting! (It is possible that people with 
this stack are more inclined to reach out to me). Would everyone be 
okay with a presentation on open-source OSCAR on a *BSD? To be 
honest, this is a very surprising finding for me, and even questions 
like "why OpenBSD and not Linux?" would be very interesting!


This Montreal lurker would tune in to the remote part of a hybrid 
meeting on OSCAR. I'd never heard of it.


You'd probably think it not surprising that someone from MTL might 
not have heard of an EMR system used in Ont and BC

[linux] Fwd: Home automation and concept art

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Just in case this e-mail was lost, I am re-sending it. Let me know what 
you think.

Regards,
/Dmitriy
Colleagues,
Let me begin with a joke:
8X-Joke--X8
Concept art:
An Arm Cortex M4 board with two buttons and Ethernet running ZephyrOS 
publishes data on each button press.

Data goes to Linux powered wall clock also running MQTT broker.
openHAB server subscribes on MQTT broker and changes volume on MPD 
server on each that event.

Surprisingly, it all works quite decently.
8X-Joke--X8

This sort of creation which marks a stage in my home automation project 
was supposed to be done just for fun and test if this will work at all.


As for the general, if there is an interest in OCLUG to OpenSource in 
home automation, we could run a discussion at one of the meetings. From 
my side, I am ready to talk briefly about openHAB, ZephyrOS as an OS 
for sensor devices, may be some words about MQTT in home automation if 
needed.


Thoughts?

--
Dmitriy Korovkin

Re: [linux] what are people using as opposed to zoom for videoconferencing?

[Dmitriy Korovkin]

Have been using Wire for home communications for quite a while. 
(https://wire.com)

Regards,
/Dmitriy