Re: set relpage off question

2002-03-08 Thread Martin Schwidefsky

I don't have a clue why this would be recommended for a LINUX virtual
machine.  Does Linux get memory from CMS?  It may be that IBM (or
someone) has implemented something for similiar reasons under Linux.

The set relpage off setting is a leftover from the dark age. The very
first experiments with the linux kernel have been done with a CMS image
loader until I found out how to IPL from the reader. Every publicly
available version does not need this.

blue skies,
   Martin

Linux/390 Design  Development, IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH
Schönaicherstr. 220, D-71032 Böblingen, Telefon: 49 - (0)7031 - 16-2247
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A follow up to my requests regarding that emulator, and the Marist file system

2002-03-08 Thread Gregg C Levine

Hello from Gregg C Levine writing for myself
Thanks to all who replied, however, I have decided to shelve the project
temporarily. For two reasons, I don't have the horse power, on the Intel
side, and because I remember a lot of problems being reported on the
list for the product. I have decided to go back to the usual things, on
the emulator. For all who replied, the next time you visit NYC, I will
have free coffee, and pastries available, just give me an hour's notice.
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Re: MySQL

2002-03-08 Thread Alan Cox

 I have installed MySQL in SuSE SLES7
 When I installed the product I received a message

 PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER!
 This is done with:
 /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p password

Useful tip if you installed something as an rpm

rpm -ql packagename

will list all the files it installed. SO if mysqladmin ended up somewhere
odd in the suse setup (they seem to like moving stuff to /opt) then you
can work out where it went even if someone forgot to fix the instructions.

Ditto the cases where you go to the net for help and find the documentation
on the master sites doesn't match the distro location.

Alan



MySQL

2002-03-08 Thread Mark . Pace

I have installed MySQL in SuSE SLES7
When I installed the product I received a message

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER!
This is done with:
/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p password

Well I don't have an mysqladmin.
I have searched the entire CD collection and can not find any package that
contains mysqladmin.

Has anyone else had this problem or know how to resolve it?



Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32311
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 850-219-5184
Fax: 850-219-5050
http://www.mainline.com



Re: MySQL

2002-03-08 Thread David Sainty

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:42:46AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -p password

 Well I don't have an mysqladmin.

Strange.  I just checked a RHL S/390 installation here:

bash-2.05$ locate mysqladmin
/usr/share/man/man1/mysqladmin.1.gz
/usr/bin/mysqladmin

bash-2.05$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/mysqladmin
mysql-server-3.23.41-1

Is a package not installed somehow?


DS..



Re: Share

2002-03-08 Thread Post, Mark K

Well, it's Friday, and I'm just about to leave on my 9 hour drive home.
There wasn't a whole lot of z800 stuff.  Jim Elliott and company had one on
the floor of the Tech Exchange, so they could let people see, smell and
touch it.  Oddly enough, it looks pretty much like a z900.  :)  They got a
fair number of people looking it over, and I told him I wouldn't mind having
one in my basement, but it's a little too expensive.  :(

Lots of Linux and Linux/390 sessions.  Pretty good attendance.  Overall
attendance was reported to be down from Minneapolis in July, but my Primer
session attendance went up about 20%.  I guess that means Neale Ferguson
will want me to do it again.  Most of the Linux/390 sessions were pretty
well attended, not just mine of course.  Scott Courtney put in some dazzling
performances for his talks.  For someone who hasn't done a lot of public
speaking, he's _very_ good at it.  (David, Adam, he did you proud, no doubt
about it.)

There is definitely rising interest in Linux and Linux/390.  Hopefully that
will mean that someday we'll have someone give a session on a production
implementation with real performance numbers.  That's one area where there
is still no data available for public consumption.  The folks from Transtar
gave a nice one that may be going production just before SHARE in San
Francisco.  A lot of people are hoping they'll be able to provide just such
a session.

Doctor Robinson from Salomon Smith Barney gave a nice presentation on their
use of Linux/390, but they're mainly using it in development and
infrastructure roles, and are only in the planning stages for moving
production applications to it.

Lots of information, lots of talks, lots of sore feet (at least on my part).
I'm pretty exhausted, and might wind up taking a number of naps on the drive
home so that I can arrive safely.  I'm very glad that I've got the next two
weeks off.  I think I'm going to need it to recover from this trip!

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Dave Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Share


Thanks Mark for the CTC info.
How's Share going?

Lot's of Linux and z800 talk going on...I hope!!!

Dave



Re: DASD layout error

2002-03-08 Thread Ingo Adlung

My understanding is that the old, old, old, _real_ 3380 devices don't
support ECKD, which is necessary for support in Linux/390.  If those are
indeed that type of device, then I believe you are out of luck.

If the 3380's are behind a 3990 Control Unit I suppose one could go
and remove all coded dependencies on 3390 geometry, but if this is
indeed a non-ECKD control unit then it would be painful.

Another possibility, if it was a 3380 attached to a 3990 controller -
the original mail from Maciek implies that he used ICKDSF to format the
disk, which doesn't build a Linux compatible layout either. He should
use dasdfmt instead.

Ingo



Re: MySQL

2002-03-08 Thread Mark . Pace

Strange.  I just checked a RHL S/390 installation here:

bash-2.05$ locate mysqladmin
/usr/share/man/man1/mysqladmin.1.gz
/usr/bin/mysqladmin

But this is a SuSE SLES7 distribution.  I have done a find, a locate,  an
rpm -ql, and do not see mysqladmin any where.



Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32311
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 850-219-5184
Fax: 850-219-5050
http://www.mainline.com



Re: Suggested TN3270 emulator

2002-03-08 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Davis, Lawrence wrote:

 What are people using for TN3270 emulation on Linux systems. I use Red Hat
 7.1

x3270/c3270 - they're even included in Red Hat Linux.
You'll probably want to upgrade to the version from 7.2 though.

LLaP
bero

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Re: Suggested TN3270 emulator

2002-03-08 Thread David Sainty

On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 07:45:33PM +0100, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:

 On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Davis, Lawrence wrote:

  What are people using for TN3270 emulation on Linux systems. I use Red Hat
  7.1

 x3270/c3270 - they're even included in Red Hat Linux.
 You'll probably want to upgrade to the version from 7.2 though.

You can even do SSL (secure) 3270 sessions w/ x3270/c3270 if you use
stunnel.  I posted a method for how to do this some time ago, on this list.

Regards,


DS..



Re: Host-On-Demand

2002-03-08 Thread Ann Smith

My coworker tells me if you have no id or password coded on the HTML page you
will also get the prompt.  We normally code a valid HOD user and password on
each entry level page.

Kittendorf, Craig wrote:

 USER= and PASSWORD= do not appear in the HTML.
 I installed the same HOD V6 cd to both Linux systems.  I used the HOD V6
 Deployment Wizard on my WinNT to configure the sessions and copied the same
 configuration files to both Linux system.
 Thanks,
  Craig

  -Original Message-
 From:   Ann Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Friday, March 08, 2002 2:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:Re: Host-On-Demand

 We have HOD installed under USS. Look to see if the HTML page has a USER=
 and
 PASSWORD= coded on it.
 If they are coded they better be valid. If not valid you get a prompt for
 userid and password.

 Kittendorf, Craig wrote:

  Has anyone installed Host-On-Demand on Linux/390.
 
  I install HOD V6 on the SuSE distro.  When I use it, I get a prompt for
  userid/password.  Nothing I enter will work.
  I also installed HOD V6 on a PC running Redhat 7.1 and do not get the
  prompt.  Both use Apache.  I have been comparing the httpd.conf from both,
  but have not spotted anything to which I can attribute the problem.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
   Craig Kittendorf
   Systems Programmer



Re: MySQL

2002-03-08 Thread Yuval Turgeman

On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 20:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But this is a SuSE SLES7 distribution.  I have done a find, a locate,  an
 rpm -ql, and do not see mysqladmin any where.
I think suse forgot to include in sles7 the mysql utilities (mysql
client, mysqladmin... etc).
I just opened the mysqclnt rpm locally (mysqclnt-3.22.32-141), and put
the neccessary binaries in place.  Just get that rpm from somewhere (you
can d/l it from suse I think - it's in one of the iso's probably), and
run rpm2cpio mysqclnt-3.22.32-141.s390.rpm | cpio -divu
This will open the rpm as if it was a tar.gz file.
Hope this helped.
Yuval.



Re: openssh 3.1 source install problem

2002-03-08 Thread Julia Karastoianova

Hi Tom,
Kern, Thomas wrote:

 I was already using the src.rpm from openbsd. I upgraded the openssl to
 0.9.6b-8 by using the 'oldpackage' option. I now get further through the
 build process and get to where it is building the askpass-gnome package and
 I get this error and more. At this point I am quite lost, not knowing what
 gnome is for nor what package should supply this include file.

 In file included from gnome-ssh-askpass.c:49:
 /usr/include/gnome.h:15: gdk_imlib.h: No such file or directory

this gdk_imlib.h is from imlib-devel rpm
You have to install it, then compile :)
Regards,
Julia



 /Thomas Kern
 /(301)903-2211

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 13:30
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: openssh 3.1 source install problem

 Not sure how helpful this will be, but I got those same warnings (void *
 used in arithmetic), but had no /usr/lib/libcrypto.so errors.  The
 --rebuild (and subsequent upgrade) was successfull.  I had
 openssl-0.9.6b-8 installed, though.  RH 7.2.

 One thing I notice, I used the SRPM from
 (ftp)
 ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/rpm/SRPMS/openssh-3.1p1-1.src.r
 pm
 because it was available earlier than the one at
 (ftp) updates.redhat.com/7.2/en/os/SRPMS/openssh-3.1p1-1.src.rpm

 The file sizes are different (redhat's is 910963 vs. 838269).
 Maybe you should try the openbsd srpm and see if that helps?  That's
 weird about rpm saying 0.9.6a-2 is newer.  There's rpm options to allow
 upgrading to an older package, though I have no idea if that is the
 root of your problems.

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Re: Share

2002-03-08 Thread Jim Elliott

To echo Mark's notes, attendance was excellent in the Linux on zSeries
sessions. My Mainframe Linux Update went from 110 in Minneapolis to
117 in Nashville. The majority of the audience were new to this, and
most were MVS sysprogs. A lot were at the Linux sessions because their
boss told them to learn about Linux.

And yes, we had a nice new z800 at SHARE in the trade show. It is
actually a little smaller than the x900 (in all dimensions). A big
reason, the z800 is air cooled with the z900 has a closed loop cooling
system.

I had to leave early on Wednesday (and the airline lost my luggage!) to
go to Edmonton Canada. I presented the Linux story to the local Canadian
Information Processing Society (CIPS) dinner last night to an audience
of over 150. It was enthusiastically received!

The charts for my SHARE and CIPS sessions are on my web site at
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott under User Groups.

Regards, Jim Elliott - Linux Advocate, IBM Canad



Re: Porting Large S/390 Assembler Applications

2002-03-08 Thread Chuck Arney

Thanks for all the on-list and off-list responses.  So far everyone says
don't do it.  I have not heard from anyone that has attempted to port a
heavy system type OS/390 or VSE multitasking application written in S/390
assembler to LINUX.

Has anyone ported an assembler application without re-writing it in C or
Java?

Chuck Arney
IntelliWare Systems Inc.  http://www.intelliware.com
Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host for VSE  OS/390
Access CMS minidisks from OS/390  VSE with CMSACCess
Voice: 972-296-6166   Fax: 972-296-5468

- Original Message -
From: James Tison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Porting Large S/390 Assembler Applications


 On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd call it an 11.

 * 5 points: changing all the HLASM OS/390 USS macro interfaces to Linux
 library calls.
 * 4 points: converting HLASM syntax to gas. (Different assembler syntax,
 same opcodes though)
 * 2 points: ELF sectioning vs HLASM's named control sections (no such
thing
 in ELF).

 Tachyon Software (http://www.tachyonsoft.com) produces an excellent HLASM
 syntax compatible assembler that runs under Linux and optionally outputs
 ELF: this will reduce the effort pretty dramatically, down to about a 7 on
 that 10 scale. You'll still have some source code mods to make with
respect
 to sectioning and externals; but it does take the lion's share of the work
 out of that part of the effort.




Re: JDK requirements

2002-03-08 Thread Scott Courtney

On Friday 08 March 2002 04:25 pm, Ann Smith wrote:
 Can I run JDK 1.3.1 with Suse 2.2.16 kernel ?
 Being an old mainframer who is used to prereqs coreqs I am sometimes
 confused how you tell if a package has any kernel dependencies.

I'm not sure about 1.3.1, but 1.3.0 (IBM version) runs fine with 2.2.16 kernel.
Turn JIT off with the IBM JVM unless you have the new beta-level patched
version, which I believe you still have to get from your IBM contact rather
than off the net. (Someone correct me if that code has gone GA by now...my
info is about a month old.)

Scott

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