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Can't locate module binfmt-4c46
HI all! I am Installing SAP release 4.6D under Linux SuSe Interprise server 8 and I get the following error when running R3SETUP or INSTGUI Can't locate module binfmt-4c46. I have gcc version 3.2, glibc-2.2.5-87, and SuSe kernel Linux version 2.4.19-3suse-SMP. Please asssist Moloko Moloko Monyepao OS390/L390 System Programmer arivia.kom Tel : +27 11 800 3372 NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, is subject to the standard arivia.kom email disclaimer which may be found at: http://www.arivia.co.za/disclaimer.htm. If you cannot access the disclaimer through the URL attached, and you wish to receive a copy thereof, please send an eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (011) 233-0800. You will receive the disclaimer by return email or fax.
Re: Can't locate module binfmt-4c46
On Thursday 11 September 2003 12:14, Moloko Monyepao wrote: I am Installing SAP release 4.6D under Linux SuSe Interprise server 8 and I get the following error when running R3SETUP or INSTGUI Can't locate module binfmt-4c46. I have gcc version 3.2, glibc-2.2.5-87, and SuSe kernel Linux version 2.4.19-3suse-SMP. Could it be that you attempt to run a 64 bit application on a 31 bit kernel? What is the output of 'uname -a' and 'file R3SETUP'? Arnd
Re: Anyone tried Levanta
Anyone tried BMC's Deployment Manager? How's it compare to Levanta? Thanks Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/03 06:27PM We're using Levanta. Started with version 1 and are now using version 2. Currently have a few production Version 1 instances. In 3 weeks we have some mission-critical Linux instances going into production using Levanta. Version 2 is based on VM-level minidisk sharing (instead of NFS as used in version 1) which allows packages to be shared amongst instances. There is then a read/write file system layer that allows for customizations to the products. Also the product now supports non-RPM packages which is GREAT!! Since our VM environment is dedicated to Linux instances I even use Levanta as our USER DIRECT manager. The two interfaces provided (Web UI and command level) are both POWERFUL!!! This sophistication does come with a bit of a learning curve. Some new concepts and terminology.. nothing like rocket science... Heck I learned it!! haha We're very happy with the product!!! Version 2 is much stronger than version 1 mainly in that it can handle packages that are other than RPMs. - Original Message - From: Gene Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: Anyone tried Levanta Hi, Has anyone on the list tried Levanta? If so, what do you think of it? thanks Gene
Re: Can't locate module binfmt-4c46
Your linux is 32bit, but SAP required 64bit (s390x). WBR, Sergey Moloko Monyepao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11.09.2003 14:54 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Can't locate module binfmt-4c46 The following is the output of the uname -a command Linux lnx1 2.4.19-3suse-SMP #1 SMP Wed Nov 6 22:34:43 UTC 2002 s390 unknow Moloko Monyepao OS390/L390 System Programmer arivia.kom Tel : +27 11 800 3372 -Original Message- From: Arnd Bergmann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2003 13:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can't locate module binfmt-4c46 On Thursday 11 September 2003 12:14, Moloko Monyepao wrote: I am Installing SAP release 4.6D under Linux SuSe Interprise server 8 and I get the following error when running R3SETUP or INSTGUI Can't locate module binfmt-4c46. I have gcc version 3.2, glibc-2.2.5-87, and SuSe kernel Linux version 2.4.19-3suse-SMP. Could it be that you attempt to run a 64 bit application on a 31 bit kernel? What is the output of 'uname -a' and 'file R3SETUP'? Arnd NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, is subject to the standard arivia.kom email disclaimer which may be found at: http://www.arivia.co.za/disclaimer.htm. If you cannot access the disclaimer through the URL attached, and you wish to receive a copy thereof, please send an eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (011) 233-0800. You will receive the disclaimer by return email or fax.
Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods
CA-JARS being one of the packaged chargeback solutions. -Original Message- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods Traditionally this is done through machine utilization information that is logged by VM's accounting facility. Some value is assigned to a unit of work (a CPU second) and machines that are to be charged back have their accounting information tracked and billed to the user/customer. The accounting facility is a standard deliverable with VM. I don't believe that there are any native tools available to report in it, but there are packages and products available to do this. Of course, you could roll your own. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 08:36, Jerry Prange wrote: I'm interested in ideas on how to structure a billing/chargeback system for webservers running on Linux390. Thank you. -- Rich Smrcina Sr. Systems Engineer Sytek Services - A Division of DSG Milwaukee, WI rsmrcina at wi.rr.com rsmrcina at dsgroup.com Catch the WAVV! Stay for requirements and the free-for-all. Update your zSeries skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2004 in Chattanooga, TN April 30-May 4, 2004 For details see http://www.wavv.org Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you.
Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods
Or VM:Account. - Original Message - From: Ward, Garry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods CA-JARS being one of the packaged chargeback solutions.
Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods
I have not looked too hard for a chargeback mechanism. We use Apache's virtual host mechanism to provide multiple websites in one linux instance. None of them are really large enough to collect money from. If we did have to charge one particular customer, our plan is to give them their own linux instance stripped down to just the cron/ssh/http/mysql services they need and charge them for the entire virtual machine based on the accounting cards - CPU time only and maybe a flat fee for infrastructure. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 -Original Message- From: Jerry Prange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 09:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods I'm interested in ideas on how to structure a billing/chargeback system for webservers running on Linux390. Thank you.
Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods
The cpint device driver includes a device which creates VM accounting records. You can take the bsd accounting records that Linux can generate (or any other means) and use the driver to write them out for VM to consolidate and centrally report upon. See the HOW-TO in cpint-1.1.5 that's on linuxvm.org. I've just made the changes to get it running on the 2.6 kernel.
Re: Can't locate module binfmt-4c46
You're trying to run a module built for a different CPU architecture. Check and make certain you have the version for your architecture. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Moloko Monyepao I am Installing SAP release 4.6D under Linux SuSe Interprise server 8 and I get the following error when running R3SETUP or INSTGUI Can't locate module binfmt-4c46.
Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods
Thanks for the feedback. If I might add a little more... We're presented with the challenge of equitable billing to our clients that have applications running on WebSphere. Ideally, they want to see a flat rate presented to them on a periodic basis (monthly, quarterly, etc) for planning/budgeting purposes. If all applications were the same and consumed the same amount of resources, it wouldn't be so difficult. We could identify our costs and divide them equally, assuming some number of applications running on a single virtual machine. That's far from reality for us and very likely others as well. So we try to add the usage factor in the mix to be fair to everyone. Current thinking is that we could establish some base rate or 'entry fee' to cover some amount of fixed costs regardless of the number of apps and then present a periodic maintenance/usage fee based on cpu utilization or hits, etc.. Based on the work I've done so far with WebSphere, there appear to be a couple of different ways to configure the 'servers'. One option is to install all applications under the 'default server' and the other is to create multiple virtual servers on the same virtual machine. The latter seems like it may be of greater benefit from an administration and isolation perspective. I don't currently know how we would isolate cpu usage for either of them given that all apps would be running on the same virtual machine even though they are structured differently. Creating individual webservers/virtual machines on our LinuxIFL doesn't seem to be an option based on resource constraints. (Real storage - 2GB limit). WebSphere uses a significant amount of resources on a per virtual machine basis. We are exploring means of stretching the available resources in order to facilitate additional virtual machines with WebSphere but it doesn't look like we'll gain a great deal. We have alot of tradition/history in the usage based billing and think that it has a place here also. The challenge is how to come up with a method of incorporating it into a scheme and present something that our clients can use for budgeting purposes, yet be fair to everyone. The alternative for us may be to break away from history which also presents new challenges. |-+ | | Rich Smrcina | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | om | | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | IST.EDU | | || | || | | 09/11/2003 08:38 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | Linux on 390 Port| | || |-+ ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods | ---| Traditionally this is done through machine utilization information that is logged by VM's accounting facility. Some value is assigned to a unit of work (a CPU second) and machines that are to be charged back have their accounting information tracked and billed to the user/customer. The accounting facility is a standard deliverable with VM. I don't believe that there are any native tools available to report in it, but there are packages and products available to do this. Of course, you could roll your own. On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 08:36, Jerry Prange wrote: I'm interested in ideas on how to structure a billing/chargeback system for webservers running on Linux390. Thank you. -- Rich Smrcina Sr. Systems Engineer Sytek Services - A Division of DSG Milwaukee, WI rsmrcina at wi.rr.com rsmrcina at dsgroup.com Catch the WAVV! Stay for requirements and the free-for-all. Update your zSeries skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2004 in Chattanooga, TN April 30-May 4, 2004 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: Web Server Chargeback/Cost Recovery Methods
That's far from reality for us and very likely others as well. So we try to add the usage factor in the mix to be fair to everyone. Current thinking is that we could establish some base rate or 'entry fee' to cover some amount of fixed costs regardless of the number of apps and then present a periodic maintenance/usage fee based on cpu utilization or hits, etc.. That's going to be very difficult to accomplish. Linux process accounting isn't nearly as detailed as most host accounting facilities, and if you use the multiple application servers per instance model, process accounting isn't going to tell you much about application thread utilization within a process, which is how this stuff is going to get done. One customer of ours does it this way: Establish a small number of shared WAS servers and create a set of tiered service levels (low, medium, high), with appropriate relative SHARE values and CPU caps. Within the tiers, use the shared application server model and divide the usage figures by the number of applications and adjust for cost, which would give the users their fixed usage costs, but also allow you to balance the costs for each service level (and you can point them at each other for making performance yucky -- or so we can dream...8-)). If the users are unhappy sharing, then they can upgrade to a higher performance tier at appropriate cost uptick. If they want dedicated resources, then you can charge appropriately. You can review the charges periodically (half-yearly is good) and adjust accordingly. With this model, you can use the VM accounting stream to gather the data, and split it up after the fact -- you know what internal users are part of the service level group -- and not have to go after the sub-process accounting stuff.
Linus returns fire
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