Re: SCO sues Novell
During discovery, McDonald's produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebeck's. This history documented McDonald's knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard. With the intent of beating the equine directly into the ground, I find that I must add that McDonalds uses excessively high temperatures to brew it's coffee. Higher temperatures = more cups per pound of coffee, so there is a definite financial incentive to raise the water temperature well beyond that of the typical consumer coffee maker. Add this fact to the number of ignored consumer complaints about the aforementioned high temperature and you begin to see a picture of corporate neglect. Almost all coffee drinkers have spilled coffee on themselves at one time or another, but how many of us have sustained third degree burns as a result? Fans of extreme tort reform fail to see that ridiculously high damage verdicts are the only effective mechanisms for punishing ridiculously large corporations. Under U.S. law, corporations enjoy the same constitutional protections as a human being, yet are functionally immortal. Perhaps there is more substance here than stupid juries awarding stupid verdicts.
Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace
Hi all. Im trying to compile kernel 2.4.24 for z800 in 31bit more. Currently i have applied ibm june 2003 experimental patches (i know they are for 2.4.23, but - as mentioned on this list - they patch 2.4.24 also perfectly), and a patch for devfs from some ibm folk (i dont remember his name, i found the patch somewhere in google in a mailing list (maybe on this?)). Now the kernel and the modules compile, but qeth.o - which is the most important module, we can say that i think - says that he got an unresolved symbol: show_trace. If i am correct, this issue has been fixed in somewhere 2.5.73, but i didn't find that is has been fixed back in 2.4. Now does anybody knows anything about this unresolved symdol thingie, or will i have to backport the bugfix from 2.5.73 to 2.4.24? Thank you for any help. Kasza Karoly P.S.: it is kind of weird that a factory kernel cannot be compiled on the 390 architecture, and one have to collect patches and fixes from all over the net, dont you think?
Re: Pros and Cons to sharing /usr
On Tuesday 27 January 2004 16:10, Eric Sammons wrote: So if I am reading your email correctly, for the duration of an major update I would first basically update my master (as it is rw for everything). Then each guest allocate a /usr filesystem that is throw away. Mount that /usr as rw during the cloned guests updates. After the updates I can simply unmount the rw throw away copy of /usr and mount the masters /usr as ro, which has already been updated? Is this correct? Almost. The disk that the one guest is writing to must not be one that is mounted r/o on any other system or you get major data corruption. Strictly speaking, there is not even a 'master' system, just one that does the update first. Note that your also should mount the new r/o /usr before unmounting the rw copy. An example session could look like this: [ First guest ] # mount /dev/root on / type ext3 (rw) /dev/dasd/1000/part1 on /home type ext3 (ro) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) # dd if=/dev/dasd/1000/part1 of=/dev/dasd/1001/part1 # mount -o rw /dev/dasd/1001/part1 /usr # apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade ... # mount -o remount,ro /dev/dasd/1001/part1 ; sync # cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.1000 # cat /etc/fstab.1000 | sed -e s:1000:1001:g /etc/fstab [ Any other guest ] # mount /dev/root on / type ext3 (rw) /dev/dasd/1000/part1 on /home type ext3 (ro) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) # dd if=/dev/dasd/1000/part1 of=/dev/dasd/1002/part1 # mount -o rw /dev/dasd/1002/part1 /usr # apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade ... # mount -o ro /dev/dasd/1001/part1 # cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.1000 # cat /etc/fstab.1000 | sed -e s:1000:1001:g /etc/fstab # /etc/init.d/xxx restart # ( whatever accesses dasd 1002 ) # umount /dev/dasd/1002/part1 || /sbin/reboot Here, dasd 1000 is the old /usr, 1001 is the new /usr and 1002 is the scratch disk that is reused on every guest. Next time, 1001 and 1000 are swapped. Obviously, you could use some other method for cloning the disk instead of dd, and use rpm/urpmi/... instead of apt-get. Arnd
How to add the size of /
Hi My / filesystem that is on /dev/dasda is being full and i need to increase it's size . My VM admin says he can asign a new dasd and format it and belong it to my Linux Guest . I want to know how to assign this dasd to my / filesystem that it will be increased to new size . -- by regards -- Sophia __ Inflex - installed on mailserver for domain @itrc.ac.ir Queries to: admin@
How to use spamassassin under sendmail in suse-smp-2.4.7
Hi I used inflex in sendmail . Inflex uses the spamassassin , when I start sendmail with inflex , then it suppose every mail is spam therefore it delete all of body of e-mails . I want to know how to define spamassassin to doesn't do that and only delete the e-mails that are realy as a spam .Meanwhile I never work with spamassassin and i am new on it . -- regarding -- Sophia __ Inflex - installed on mailserver for domain @itrc.ac.ir Queries to: admin@
Re: Weird OSA issue...anyone else???
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 05:08:11PM -0500, Alan Altmark wrote: I'm pretty sure that Linux doesn't do IP takeover. The VIPA is registered in the OSA filters, but the OSA won't respond to ARPs. Don't confuse VIPA with IP takeover. They are two different things. The concepts are mixed together on z/OS from an implementation point of view. You are right Alan, I was wrong inn using the term VIPA takeover. I means : VIPA ARP TAKEOVER , in other word the process of moving the responsibility to answer to ARP request (for VIPA addresses ) from an OSA card to the other one. It is described in APAR PQ26689 for OS/390 IP stack. It is more or less as I described (but it was ICMP used to explore the PLAN, not gratious ARP). I suspect the problem here is that Gbit OSA uses QDIO mode; according http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245948.pdf in QDIO mode an OSA card answers to ARP request by itself, having IP addresses registered by the IP stack. In the above redbook the process of ARP takeover is described (is this what you mean for IP takeover ?). In the above radbook a reference to spantree exists. I don't know if it applies to Lucius's problem, and I don't whanto to add confusion, but it can perhaps help. My idea is that Lucius configuration (2 OSAD devices on the same physical LAN, VIPA Ip address in the same IP network as the interfaces) can have some problem if LINUX is not able to move the VIPA ARP responsibility from an interface to another one. Probably Adam's option (OSPF) could work better , being less easy to implement. I am very interested in understand how LINUX works in Lucius's configuration. Franco Mignognafranco_mignogna@ it.ibm.com
Re: How to add the size of /
Did you use LVM? LVM is probably going to save you here, if you did not use LVM you may find it a challenge to increase the root filesystem. Eric Sammons (804)697-3925 FRIT - Unix Systems Alikhani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/2004 05:35 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:How to add the size of / Hi My / filesystem that is on /dev/dasda is being full and i need to increase it's size . My VM admin says he can asign a new dasd and format it and belong it to my Linux Guest . I want to know how to assign this dasd to my / filesystem that it will be increased to new size . -- by regards -- Sophia __ Inflex - installed on mailserver for domain @itrc.ac.ir Queries to: admin@
OT: Virus alerts from Homeland Security
This looked interesting so I thought I'd pass it along: Aiming to increase Internet security, the government is now offering Americans free cyber alerts and computer advice from the Homeland Security Department. Anyone who signs up with the new National Cyber Alert System will receive e-mails about major virus outbreaks and other Internet attacks as they occur, along with detailed instructions to help computer users protect themselves. The program, which begins Wednesday, represents an ambitious effort by the government to develop a trusted warning system that can help home users and technology experts. The url is http://www.us-cert.gov/ Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: SCO sues Novell
Every coffee maker I have ever seen pours water near the boiling point over the grounds. The temperature of the warmers is what affects how hot it is when it is poured into the cup. And I suspect people getting coffee to go find value in hotter initial temperatures, since the coffee will still be hot when they get to wherever they are going to drink it. Bill With the intent of beating the equine directly into the ground, I find that I must add that McDonalds uses excessively high temperatures to brew it's coffee. Higher temperatures = more cups per pound of coffee, so there is a definite financial incentive to raise the water temperature well beyond that of the typical consumer coffee maker. Add this fact to the number of ignored consumer complaints about the aforementioned high temperature and you begin to see a picture of corporate neglect. Almost all coffee drinkers have spilled coffee on themselves at one time or another, but how many of us have sustained third degree burns as a result?
Re: Virus alerts from Homeland Security
On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:46 AM, Lionel Dyck wrote: Anyone who signs up with the new National Cyber Alert System will receive e-mails about major virus outbreaks and other Internet attacks as they occur, along with detailed instructions to help computer users protect themselves. How long before an email with faked headers appears to come from this organization with a malicious attachment to fix a vulnerability, (a la [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Nice that gov't is providing this service, though. ~ Daniel --- This message is the property of Time Inc. or its affiliates. It may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: How to add the size of /
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 11:35, Alikhani wrote: Hi My / filesystem that is on /dev/dasda is being full and i need to increase it's size . My VM admin says he can asign a new dasd and format it and belong it to my Linux Guest . I want to know how to assign this dasd to my / filesystem that it will be increased to new size . The easiest way is to move some parts of / to another file system. The obvious candidates are /usr, /home/, /opt/ and /var. E.g. to make /dev/dasdb1 your new /usr, do something like mke2fs -j /dev/dasdb1 mount /dev/dasdb1 /mnt cp -al /usr/* /mnt/ umount /mnt echo /dev/dasdb1 /usr/ ext3 ro 0 0 /etc/fstab mount --bind /usr /mnt mount /usr rm -rf /mnt/* umount /mnt For /home, it is even easier when no user except root is logged in: mke2fs -j /dev/dasdb1 mount /dev/dasdb1 /mnt mv /home/* /mnt/ umount /mnt echo /dev/dasdb1 /home/ ext3 defaults 0 0 /etc/fstab mount /home Arnd
McCoffee [WAS: Re: SCO sues Novell]
I have heard, but never read, that a McDonald's executive testified that the they had high coffee temperatures so that it would take a long time to cool down so that the customer would not have time to get a second cup. Can anyone confirm/refute? Thanks, _/) Tom Shilson ~GEDW VM System Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689
Re: Virus alerts from Homeland Security
Ok so then everyday when a new Windows virus comes out we get mailed and told to go to Microsoft's update site. I think this service would be way to noisy. It's telling me to update my virus definitions and patch my system everyday. Course on the brighter side, consumers may get the idea that a Windows machine is not the most maintenance free computer they could have bought. -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Virus alerts from Homeland Security This looked interesting so I thought I'd pass it along: Aiming to increase Internet security, the government is now offering Americans free cyber alerts and computer advice from the Homeland Security Department. Anyone who signs up with the new National Cyber Alert System will receive e-mails about major virus outbreaks and other Internet attacks as they occur, along with detailed instructions to help computer users protect themselves. The program, which begins Wednesday, represents an ambitious effort by the government to develop a trusted warning system that can help home users and technology experts. The url is http://www.us-cert.gov/ Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: Weird OSA issue...anyone else???
On Wednesday, 01/28/2004 at 01:06 CET, Franco Mignogna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect the problem here is that Gbit OSA uses QDIO mode; according http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245948.pdf in QDIO mode an OSA card answers to ARP request by itself, having IP addresses registered by the IP stack. In the above redbook the process of ARP takeover is described (is this what you mean for IP takeover ?). In the above radbook a reference to spantree exists. I don't know if it applies to Lucius's problem, and I don't whanto to add confusion, but it ARP takeover and IP takeover are the same thing: Moving the association of an IP address from one adapter to another. It really doesn't matter if it is a VIPA or the base IP address. z/OS can move the base IP address *and* the VIPA between adapters. To the best of my knowledge, Linux doesn't, as it requires cooperation between the IP layer and the device driver that doesn't exist on Linux. The *intent* of VIPA is to insulate the host from IP address changes AND to provide failover. If you put the VIPA in the same subnet as the adapters, then you lose half of the insulating value (hey! it's cold outside!) of the VIPA. When in a different subnet, it is not necessary for the adapters to respond to ARPs for the VIPAs - they just have to add it to their IP filters. But as you suggest, the core of the problem is the gratuitous ARP performed by OSA when it is in QDIO mode. If Linux does not tell the adapter Hey, don't do that!, then OSA will not register the IP address and will not respond to ARPs for it. Fixing that is relatively easy. To have both adapters running and moving traffic, with transparent failover for all traffic to a single adapter is much harder (requiring that cooperation thing). When Linux can do that, then you can failover same-subnet VIPA the same way. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development
Re: McCoffee [WAS: Re: SCO sues Novell]
I recall when I was a teenager and working at McDonald's: The coffee pot shattered on me when lifting it from the burner. I believe; I would have been seriously burned if I I would not have had their specific uniforms on. I stripped In the basement area and was taken to the hospital. FYI - Regards -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Shilson Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: McCoffee [WAS: Re: SCO sues Novell] I have heard, but never read, that a McDonald's executive testified that the they had high coffee temperatures so that it would take a long time to cool down so that the customer would not have time to get a second cup. Can anyone confirm/refute? Thanks, _/) Tom Shilson ~GEDW VM System Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beinert, William Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SCO sues Novell Every coffee maker I have ever seen pours water near the boiling point over the grounds. The temperature of the warmers is what affects how hot it is when it is poured into the cup. And I suspect people getting coffee to go find value in hotter initial temperatures, since the coffee will still be hot when they get to wherever they are going to drink it. Bill With the intent of beating the equine directly into the ground, I find that I must add that McDonalds uses excessively high temperatures to brew it's coffee. Higher temperatures = more cups per pound of coffee, so there is a definite financial incentive to raise the water temperature well beyond that of the typical consumer coffee maker. Add this fact to the number of ignored consumer complaints about the aforementioned high temperature and you begin to see a picture of corporate neglect. Almost all coffee drinkers have spilled coffee on themselves at one time or another, but how many of us have sustained third degree burns as a result?
Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files ....
Linux list, I am looking for a windows based product that will take a group of windows files (html, gif, sss, ear) and create a tar file on the windows platform which will be written to a CD and then the Files will be transferred from the CD to a Linux platform where it will be untarred. I have looked at one product that does that, Powerzip, but I need a bit more flexibility. I need to be able to set the file permission's and groups on the files being tarred. Has anyone come across a product like that ? TIA Regards, Terry L. Spaulding IBM Global Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files ....
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 11:33, Terry Spaulding wrote: I am looking for a windows based product that will take a group of windows files (html, gif, sss, ear) and create a tar file Cygwin comes to mind. http://www.cygwin.com/ -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files ....
Use cygwin and gnu tar. Winzip also has support for tar files, but you get more utility out of cygwin. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates I am looking for a windows based product that will take a group of windows files (html, gif, sss, ear) and create a tar file on the windows platform which will be written to a CD and then the Files will be transferred from the CD to a Linux platform where it will be untarred.
Re: Virus alerts from Homeland Security
Hopefully, they'll have the sense to PGP/GPG sign their emails, the way various others do to ensure authenticity. But, this is government, so sense is not a given. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Jarboe Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Virus alerts from Homeland Security On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:46 AM, Lionel Dyck wrote: Anyone who signs up with the new National Cyber Alert System will receive e-mails about major virus outbreaks and other Internet attacks as they occur, along with detailed instructions to help computer users protect themselves. How long before an email with faked headers appears to come from this organization with a malicious attachment to fix a vulnerability, (a la [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Nice that gov't is providing this service, though. ~ Daniel --- This message is the property of Time Inc. or its affiliates. It may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should forward, print, copy, or otherwise reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by any individual not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace
Yes, it is. I've been contemplating making a nuisance of myself on the Linux Kernel Mailing List over that issue. Or maybe must sending the accumulated patches to Marcelo every three days or so until he gets the hint. Or just about anything that might make life a little easier for us. Sigh. Unfortunately, I don't want to get a reputation for being an idiot on LKML, so I probably won't do any of that. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kasza Karoly Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace -snip- P.S.: it is kind of weird that a factory kernel cannot be compiled on the 390 architecture, and one have to collect patches and fixes from all over the net, dont you think?
Re: Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files ....
It looks like cygwin maybe it. My only real requirement is to be able to set the file permissions and group settings on these files before the tar. Thanks to all those that responded. - David wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 11:33, Terry Spaulding wrote: I am looking for a windows based product that will take a group of windows files (html, gif, sss, ear) and create a tar file Cygwin comes to mind. http://www.cygwin.com/ - Regards, Terry L. Spaulding IBM Global Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files ....
Terry, One note about Cygwin. You don't need to install a lot to get the functionality you need. There are some very fundamental pieces you will need, and then you can just throw on top of that tar and gzip and bzip2 (if you want to do compressed tarballs), as well as the libraries that support those bits, and you're done. But, if you're like me, you'll come to like the convenience of having things like sed, grep, ssh, etc. on your desktop as well. I even run sshd on my Windows 2000 systems so that I can sign into them remotely. No GUI, but then I don't care much about that. You'll need to adjust your PATH environment variable to include the \path\to\cygwin\bin, but that's about it, really. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Terry Spaulding Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files It looks like cygwin maybe it. My only real requirement is to be able to set the file permissions and group settings on these files before the tar. Thanks to all those that responded. - David wrote: On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 11:33, Terry Spaulding wrote: I am looking for a windows based product that will take a group of windows files (html, gif, sss, ear) and create a tar file Cygwin comes to mind. http://www.cygwin.com/ - Regards, Terry L. Spaulding IBM Global Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: DB2 UDB List
Does anyone know if there is a DB2 UDB list somewhere I can sign on to? Thanks! --- Jeremy Warren Sr. Systems Programmer KB Toy Stores mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@kbtoys.com
Re: Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files ....
If you have Win2K server, you can get Unix Services add-on. I believe that with Win2K3 it is a standard inclusion. I think this is made by MKS. I used it a while ago but did not check out everything. Terry Spaulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/2004 08:33 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Looking for a windows product to create Linux tar files Linux list, I am looking for a windows based product that will take a group of windows files (html, gif, sss, ear) and create a tar file on the windows platform which will be written to a CD and then the Files will be transferred from the CD to a Linux platform where it will be untarred. I have looked at one product that does that, Powerzip, but I need a bit more flexibility. I need to be able to set the file permission's and groups on the files being tarred. Has anyone come across a product like that ? TIA Regards, Terry L. Spaulding IBM Global Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DB2 UDB List
Jeremy , Welcome to the IDUG DB2-L list. To subscribe, go to the archives and home page at http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html. From that page select Join or Leave the list. The IDUG DB2-L FAQ is at http://www.idugdb2-l.org. The IDUG List Admins can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Find out the latest on IDUG conferences at http://conferences.idug.org/index.cfm Bob Lawrence DBA Boscov's Dept Stores LLc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Warren Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: DB2 UDB List Does anyone know if there is a DB2 UDB list somewhere I can sign on to? Thanks! --- Jeremy Warren Sr. Systems Programmer KB Toy Stores mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@kbtoys.com
Re: OT: Virus alerts from Homeland Security
Based on the number of every changing worms, viruses, and other crud, it sounds as if the Alert sytem could generate enough traffic to make it indistinguishable from other spam! ;-) = Jim Sibley RHCT, Implementor of Linux on zSeries Computer are useless.They can only give answers. Pablo Picasso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
putty for linux
is there a putty for Linux?? thanks Ralph
Re: putty for linux
Why? Just use ssh which is usually a part of the Linux install. Use ssh for an interactive shell. Use scp for a secure copy from one Linux to another. BTW - should this be on the Linux/390 forum instead of here? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: putty for linux is there a putty for Linux?? thanks Ralph
Re: putty for linux
Uh, forget that part about being on the Linux/390 list. We are on the Linux/390 list. My _mind_ is not on the list regardless of where my fingers may be. For some reason I thought I was on the VM list. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: putty for linux Why? Just use ssh which is usually a part of the Linux install. Use ssh for an interactive shell. Use scp for a secure copy from one Linux to another. BTW - should this be on the Linux/390 forum instead of here? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: putty for linux is there a putty for Linux?? thanks Ralph
Re: putty for linux
where is it.. i am using Linux on my desktop.. not windows.. i used putty on windows to connect to linux via ssh Ralph -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 1/28/2004 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:Re: putty for linux Why? Just use ssh which is usually a part of the Linux install. Use ssh for an interactive shell. Use scp for a secure copy from one Linux to another. BTW - should this be on the Linux/390 forum instead of here? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: putty for linux is there a putty for Linux?? thanks Ralph
Re: putty for linux
You can run PuTTY under WINE. Ordinarily better to use 'ssh' from the OpenSSH package on Linux. -- R;
Re: putty for linux
No. Just telnet. On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 15:40, Noll, Ralph wrote: is there a putty for Linux?? thanks Ralph -- Rich Smrcina Sr. Systems Engineer DSG Linux Services Milwaukee, WI rsmrcina at wi.rr.com rsmrcina at dsgroup.com Catch the WAVV! Stay for requirements and the free-for-all. Update your zSeries skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2004 in Chattanooga, TN April 30-May 4, 2004 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: putty for linux
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Noll, Ralph wrote: where is it.. Open a shell window (my fav is ye olde 'xterm') and enter ssh remotehost -or- ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- ssh -l remoteuser remotehost -- R;
Re: putty for linux
xterm and the ssh client from the openSSH package perform the same task. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates -Original Message- is there a putty for Linux??
Re: putty for linux
SSH on Linux has a server (sshd) AND a client (ssh). To use the SSH client on a Linux desktop, try a command such as ssh targethost from a terminal / console window. There are plenty of arguments to ssh, such as the -l argument that lets you specify the username to provide to the target host, so see the man page (man ssh) or the ssh link at: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ssh -Doug On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 15:47:09 -0600, Noll, Ralph wrote: where is it.. i am using Linux on my desktop.. not windows.. i used putty on windows to connect to linux via ssh Ralph
Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace
On Mer, 2004-01-28 at 17:24, Post, Mark K wrote: Yes, it is. I've been contemplating making a nuisance of myself on the Linux Kernel Mailing List over that issue. Or maybe must sending the accumulated patches to Marcelo every three days or so until he gets the hint. Or just about anything that might make life a little easier for us. Sigh. Unfortunately, I don't want to get a reputation for being an idiot on LKML, so I probably won't do any of that. Im sure Marcelo would appreciate someone able to combine test and send the needed fixed for S/390. I don't believe he has one in his office 8) Alan
Re: putty for linux
Noll, Ralph wrote: is there a putty for Linux?? Yes, at http://www.tartarus.org/~simon/putty-unix/ Stefan
Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace
Alan, You don't think the IBM developers in Boeblingen fit that category? If anything, they do too much testing before they let the rest of us look at the patches they create. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Cox Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace On Mer, 2004-01-28 at 17:24, Post, Mark K wrote: Yes, it is. I've been contemplating making a nuisance of myself on the Linux Kernel Mailing List over that issue. Or maybe must sending the accumulated patches to Marcelo every three days or so until he gets the hint. Or just about anything that might make life a little easier for us. Sigh. Unfortunately, I don't want to get a reputation for being an idiot on LKML, so I probably won't do any of that. Im sure Marcelo would appreciate someone able to combine test and send the needed fixed for S/390. I don't believe he has one in his office 8) Alan
