Gentoo Linux S390 Testers Needed

2004-05-11 Thread Mike McCabe
There are currently Gentoo Linux Tarballs available for the s390
architecture at Gentoo Linux Mirrors.  The mirror list is available
here. They are available under the Experimental tree at each mirror.
Gentoo Linux for the s390 Features 

  * Patches from the April 2004 Stream 
  * Cpint-1.1.6 
  * Patches from the June 2003 Stream 
  * 2.6.5 Vanilla Kernel with s390 Specific fixes 

More information about Gentoo Linux is availabe at http://www.gentoo.org
or on irc.freenode.net in the #gentoo-zseries channel.  Bugs can be
filed at http://bugs.gentoo.org

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Re: Kickstarting RHEL 3 on zSeries?

2004-05-11 Thread Post, Mark K
Since the installer is pretty much the same (if not truly the same), I would
have to believe that it would work.  Certainly it's worth a try.


Mark Post

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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> William Goodrich
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Kickstarting RHEL 3 on zSeries?
>
>
> You need a line like this in your parm file to point at the ks config
> file.
>
> ks=nfs:192.168.0.2:/rehl3/ks-cfg-files/test1.cfg
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>


Bill -

Thanks a million!  Seriously, this is a *huge* help for me!

Do you know if I can put the ks.cfg in the root of the initrd.img and just
do something like:

ks=file:ks.cfg

That's what I do on Intel servers.

Thanks!
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Re: Z/800 IFL W/O VM using SANS and/or Oracle

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen Frazier
I have been a STK customer for a long time (since the mid 70's). My
first STK RAID-5 box was before ESCON.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 15:03, Stephen Frazier wrote:


Over the years since there first pure RAID-5 box STK has made many
incremental improvements.

You must be thinking of something else.  STK discontinued the Nordique

("pure RAID-5 box") for ESCON a very long time ago.

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Re: Kickstarting RHEL 3 on zSeries?

2004-05-11 Thread Cameron, Thomas
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> William Goodrich
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Kickstarting RHEL 3 on zSeries?
>
>
> You need a line like this in your parm file to point at the
> ks config file.
>
> ks=nfs:192.168.0.2:/rehl3/ks-cfg-files/test1.cfg
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>


Bill -

Thanks a million!  Seriously, this is a *huge* help for me!

Do you know if I can put the ks.cfg in the root of the initrd.img and just do 
something like:

ks=file:ks.cfg

That's what I do on Intel servers.

Thanks!
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Re: Z/800 IFL W/O VM using SANS and/or Oracle

2004-05-11 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 15:03, Stephen Frazier wrote:
> Over the years since there first pure RAID-5 box STK has made many
> incremental improvements.

You must be thinking of something else.  STK discontinued the Nordique
("pure RAID-5 box") for ESCON a very long time ago.

> The improvements have been in the areas of
> reliability by adding additional parity to the original RAID-5. The
> compression algorithms that they added have helped capacity.

The compression feature is part of the Log-Structured-File (LSF) system,
and is not a bolt-on for RAID-5.  LSF makes this and other things
possible, such as snapshot copy and virtual volumes.  One of my favorite
little pluses is what the marketing guys call "self tuning" -- you don't
have to worry anymore about volume placement and hot array drawers.  The
subsystem handles it.

My point throughout is that LSF is a *very* different beast from one's
garden-variety RAID box, and that referring to STK DASD as "RAID-5" is
little more descriptive than saying it contains hard drives.

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Re: Kickstarting RHEL 3 on zSeries?

2004-05-11 Thread William Goodrich
You need a line like this in your parm file to point at the ks config file.

ks=nfs:192.168.0.2:/rehl3/ks-cfg-files/test1.cfg

Regards,
Bill

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Re: Z/800 IFL W/O VM using SANS and/or Oracle

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen Frazier
Over the years since there first pure RAID-5 box STK has made many
incremental improvements. The improvements have been in the areas of
reliability by adding additional parity to the original RAID-5. The
compression algorithms that they added have helped capacity. They have
also greatly improved performance.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:58, Stephen Frazier wrote:


STK uses what they call RAID 6.


Yes, that's what it says in Scott's paper, which I referenced.



However, RAID 6 is RAID 5 with some STK enhancements for improved
performance and reliability.

RAID 6 implements multiple parity blocks.  Depending on the
implementation they might be applied orthogonally, but I don't think
this is canon.
Because LSF only writes to disk areas that are logically zero, there has
likely been substantial change to the parity generation algorithm.
The performance characteristics of even the original Iceberg were vastly
different from that of a pure RAID-5 box that was being marketed by STK
at the time.
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Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x

2004-05-11 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Must be our proxy server acting up again.

"Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light." - Alexander Pope

"It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo."- John Collings Squire

"God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day."   - Jagdish Mehra

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VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

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> From: McKown, John
> Reply To: Linux on 390 Port
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:26 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:25 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x
> >
> >
> > The URL given below for the DB2 User Group List does not exist.
> >
> 
> It does for me. http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html
> 
> 
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Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x

2004-05-11 Thread Post, Mark K
I just clicked on it, and it worked for me.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolfe,
Gordon W
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x


The URL given below for the DB2 User Group List does not exist.

"Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light." - Alexander Pope

"It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo."- John Collings Squire

"God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day."   - Jagdish Mehra

Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

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> From: Graeme St.Clair
> Reply To: Linux on 390 Port
> Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2004 8:56 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x
>
> Probably a stupid suggestion, but don't DB2 cmds usually begin with a
> '-' (minus)?
>
> More to the point, if you're getting into DB2, try joining the
> International DB2 User's Group list.  Go to
> http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html
> and click "Join or leave the list".  It's very active, 30 or 40 posts a
day.
>
> Rgds, GStC.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jae-hwa Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:03 AM
> Subject: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > One of our customer's applications is a big and running on OS/390
> > now.
> This
> > application will migrate to Linux/390. So I installed SLES 8 64bit
> > version on our z/VM 4.3. The application will have much more memory
> > and cpu power, so it will be running on the 64bit better than 31bit,
> > I think.
> >
> > On the SLES 8 64bit(s390x with SP3), we(with our db2 engineer)
> > installed DB2 UDB V8.1.5(FP5). But the following problem is
> > occurred.
> >
> > "db2 list application" does not work.
> >
> > db2 starts ok, but when I issue some db2 command like 'list
> > application', db2 doesn't reply. So, I gathered trace for this
> > command using strace32. you can see this trace file from
> > http://php.sarang.net/down/ibm/temp/db2-list-app.log .
> >
> > If you have any idea for this problem, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks in advanced.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jae-hwa
> > --
> > Jae-hwa Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > THE CHALLENGES, that's why I choose LINUX!!!
> > For more information on me, visit http://php.sarang.net
> >
> > 
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Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x

2004-05-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: Wolfe, Gordon W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x
>
>
> The URL given below for the DB2 User Group List does not exist.
>

It does for me. http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html


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Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x

2004-05-11 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
The URL given below for the DB2 User Group List does not exist.  

"Nature and nature's laws lay hid in night:
God said, 'Let Newton Be!' and all was light." - Alexander Pope

"It did not last; the Devil howling 'Ho!
Let Einstein Be!' restored the status quo."- John Collings Squire

"God Rolled his dice, to Einstein's great dismay:
'Let Feynman Be!' and all was clear as day."   - Jagdish Mehra

Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph. D.
VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company

> --
> From: Graeme St.Clair
> Reply To: Linux on 390 Port
> Sent: Saturday, May 8, 2004 8:56 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x
> 
> Probably a stupid suggestion, but don't DB2 cmds usually begin with a '-'
> (minus)?
> 
> More to the point, if you're getting into DB2, try joining the International
> DB2 User's Group list.  Go to http://www.idugdb2-l.org/archives/db2-l.html
> and click "Join or leave the list".  It's very active, 30 or 40 posts a day.
> 
> Rgds, GStC.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jae-hwa Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:03 AM
> Subject: DB2 UDB on SLES-8 s390x
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > One of our customer's applications is a big and running on OS/390 now.
> This
> > application will migrate to Linux/390. So I installed SLES 8 64bit version
> > on our z/VM 4.3. The application will have much more memory and
> > cpu power, so it will be running on the 64bit better than 31bit, I think.
> >
> > On the SLES 8 64bit(s390x with SP3), we(with our db2 engineer) installed
> > DB2 UDB V8.1.5(FP5). But the following problem is occurred.
> >
> > "db2 list application" does not work.
> >
> > db2 starts ok, but when I issue some db2 command like 'list application',
> > db2 doesn't reply. So, I gathered trace for this command using strace32.
> > you can see this trace file from
> > http://php.sarang.net/down/ibm/temp/db2-list-app.log .
> >
> > If you have any idea for this problem, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks in advanced.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jae-hwa
> > --
> > Jae-hwa Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > THE CHALLENGES, that's why I choose LINUX!!!
> > For more information on me, visit http://php.sarang.net
> >
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Re: cpint error messages

2004-05-11 Thread Ferguson, Neale
-Original Message-
I don't see the cpint_load command in the 2.1.0 cpint,
just hcp, monstat, and mongen.

Will the 2.2 version work with 31 and 64 bit.
> Yes.

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Re: Z/800 IFL W/O VM using SANS and/or Oracle

2004-05-11 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 10:58, Stephen Frazier wrote:
> STK uses what they call RAID 6.

Yes, that's what it says in Scott's paper, which I referenced.

> However, RAID 6 is RAID 5 with some STK enhancements for improved
> performance and reliability.

RAID 6 implements multiple parity blocks.  Depending on the
implementation they might be applied orthogonally, but I don't think
this is canon.

Because LSF only writes to disk areas that are logically zero, there has
likely been substantial change to the parity generation algorithm.

The performance characteristics of even the original Iceberg were vastly
different from that of a pure RAID-5 box that was being marketed by STK
at the time.

--
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Re: Z/800 IFL W/O VM using SANS and/or Oracle

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen Frazier
STK uses what they call RAID 6. However, RAID 6 is RAID 5 with some STK
enhancements for improved performance and reliability. When STK first
came out with their version of RAID 5 they called it RAID 5+1.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ann Smith wrote:


The performance on the mainframe dasd (STK raid 5, turbo)


A quibble: your STK boxes don't implement RAID 5.  Quite different
beasts altogether.  See http://linuxvm.org/present/SHARE99/S9335SLa.pdf
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Re: Z/800 IFL W/O VM using SANS and/or Oracle

2004-05-11 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 7 May 2004, Ann Smith wrote:
> The performance on the mainframe dasd (STK raid 5, turbo)

A quibble: your STK boxes don't implement RAID 5.  Quite different
beasts altogether.  See http://linuxvm.org/present/SHARE99/S9335SLa.pdf

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Re: 2.6 kernel and old DASD problem

2004-05-11 Thread Martin Schwidefsky
> Martin, you are the Wizard, indeed! Thank you very much! Now i've got new
> kernel with old disks :)

Thanks for the flowers, but actually it was Conny who came up with the
idea for the fix. I "only" did the debugging part ...

blue skies,
   Martin

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Re: 2.6 kernel and old DASD problem

2004-05-11 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
Martin, you are the Wizard, indeed! Thank you very much! Now i've got new
kernel with old disks :)

linux04:~ # uname -a
Linux linux04 2.6.5-1Martin2 #4 SMP Tue May 11 12:55:42 EEST 2004 s390
unknown
linux04:~ # mount
/dev/dasda1 on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime,nodiratime)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
/dev/dasdb1 on /usr type reiserfs (rw,noatime,nodiratime)
/dev/dasdc1 on /opt2 type reiserfs (rw,noatime,nodiratime)
linux04:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices
0.0.0750(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda   : active at blocksize: 4096,
601020 blocks, 2347 MB
0.0.080b(ECKD) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb   : active at blocksize: 4096,
601020 blocks, 2347 MB
0.0.080c(ECKD) at ( 94: 8) is dasdc   : active at blocksize: 4096,
601020 blocks, 2347 MB




WBR, Sergey


   
  Martin   
  Schwidefsky  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  10.05.2004 22:11 
   
   









Hi Sergey,

> I've applied your patch. You can find the log below (at the end of the
file
> output from /proc/s390dbf/cio_msg/sprintf)

Ok, I hope that I got it now. We are getting a good answer on the Sense
Path
Group ID but command rejects on the Set Path Group ID. Could you please try
this patch instead of the first I sent:

(See attached file: tetragon-pgid-2.diff)

I keep the fingers crossed that this one works.

blue skies,
   Martin

Linux/390 Design & Development, IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH
Schönaicherstr. 220, D-71032 Böblingen, Telefon: 49 - (0)7031 - 16-2247
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