Re: VM user manager

2004-06-21 Thread Noll, Ralph
Dirmaint sux... I would do it manually before using dirmaint...

Just my 2cents 

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From: Ranga Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: VM user manager

I know DIRMAINT and Levanta that provide an interface to VM to manage
virtual machines. Are there other products? Has anyone compared them in
functionality, price and ease of use?
Thanks
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Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc.
Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840

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VM user manager

2004-06-21 Thread Ranga Nathan
I know DIRMAINT and Levanta that provide an interface to VM to manage
virtual machines. Are there other products? Has anyone compared them in
functionality, price and ease of use?
Thanks
__
Ranga Nathan / CSG
Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services;
BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840

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Re: Change IP addr!

2004-06-21 Thread Post, Mark K
You would use YaST for this, just before you shut down the network interface
to make the change.


Mark Post

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Hello I am changing the ip addr of the suse server on s390, in redhat  I can
change in /etc/sysconfig/network-script.. but... where can i change in suse
8.. ?


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Surge in Linux Jobs

2004-06-21 Thread Ron Greve
I notice Z/VM Linux is listed as a "Key Linux Skill" in

www.computerweekly.co.uk/Article131161.htm

It's nice to know there are still some Key Mainframe Skills out there.

Ron Greve
SDSU Research and Adm Computing Services

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Re: J2EE performance?

2004-06-21 Thread Mcphillips, James T
Same here, JBoss on Linux390 on a z990 IFL, 50% fail rate at 90 users. Anybody have 
any recommendations for memory management or Java tuning?

Jim 






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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davis, Larry
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: J2EE performance?

Same thing here, The developers were trying to compare a Sun Box to the
Frame and found there application was running 2.5 times slower on the frame,
and I was using an IFL on a z-800. The Application was a numeric intensive
application using JBoss.

Larry Davis 

-Original Message-
From: Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 09:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: J2EE performance?

I had the same problem with J2EE applications using a JBoss in Linux for
s390.

[]4s,
Antonio.

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From: "David Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: J2EE performance?


Brandon,

I feel your pain.  We have a z800-0X2 and even when DEDICATEing an entire
processor (roughly 80 MIPS) to a single VM guest (Linux or z/OS) running
WebSphere we see TERRIBLE performance.  It consumes the entire 80 MIPS for
several minutes during WebSphere initialization and then the demo app,
PetStore, runs very very slowly. Plant Store is not much better.

I'm from the old school, and 80 MIPS is a LOT, I mean, A LOT of processor
power to throw at an App Server.  WebSphere is no CICS, that's for sure!

David Booher, Systems Programmer
Quest  Software
4320 Winfield Rd, Suite 500
Warrenville, IL  60555
630.836.3196
http://www.quest.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brandon
Darbro
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: J2EE performance?


I've had the opportunity to play with JBOSS recently, as well as watch some
Websphere testing on our linux guests, and I'm not very happy with the
performance and resource utilization.

Let's see... what can I tell you about our system:

* z800
* 2 IFL's (tested using single and dual, still slow) in LPAR
* z/VM 4.4.0
* guest lan networking
* 256 meg RAM
* 512 meg vdisk swap

Observations:

* Turning of hz_timer patch helps lower CPU utilization footprint of the
java processes, but of course, then the system never sleeps.
* When running a J2EE app, it takes often over a minute to finish rendering
a page to a browser.
* When running a J2EE app, java consumes an entire IFL of cpu if we let it.

I understand others are successfully running J2EE implimentations on
mainframe Linux, so here are my questions:

1.  Is J2EE a cpu resource hog for you?
2.  Are you running Linux under VM or right on the LPAR?
3.  Do you charge users for MIP usage?  If so, how does this high CPU
utilization not eat your customer alive in billed costs?
4.  Does anyone have some advice on how to run J2EE services more
efficiently, faster and easier on cpu?
5.  Which J2EE server software for mainframe Linux do you prefer and why?
6.  Lastly, why would you choose to run J2EE on mainframe Linux as apposed
to some stand-alone system (Unix, Windows, Other)?

Thanks folks,
*Brandon Darbro

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Change IP addr!

2004-06-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello I am changing the ip addr of the suse server on s390, in redhat  I
can change in /etc/sysconfig/network-script.. but... where can i change in
suse 8.. ?


regards


xgabo

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Re: FW: Joke (groaner ) About IBM

2004-06-21 Thread Richard Troth
 ...
> > questions and even set up his own "Dear Monk" web site.

And here I thought you were going to evolve that into "Our Monk"
and make that into a contraction:  Armonk.

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Re: SuSE linux 64 bit installation problem - revisited

2004-06-21 Thread David Boyes
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 11:06:13AM +0530, Taraka Srinivas Kumar wrote:

> One thing i forgot to mention last time is that the installation was done
> via Windows FTP. I have read that there are known problems with windows
> FTP
> and it may not be able to provide sufficient installation data.
> Is this " Using Windows FTP" a problem in this case?

It's *always* a problem. That's why it's not recommended. With the
availability of good CD-based Linux systems that don't touch your hard
disk, there's no reason to even try using a Windows-based FTP
server. That's also why the SMB installation method exists.

That said, it sounds like a step got missed somewhere in the install
and that there is some missing or corrupt information in the boot
process. I'd try the installation again using a recommended install
method and see if your problem disappears (likely).

> This time i do have SuSE license. Whom should i approach for support ? IBM
> or SuSE ?

Since it's a OS-specific problem, you probably will have the best
results by dealing with the OS vendor. If you bought your support via
IBM, then start there. Otherwise, go direct to SuSE.

> Is it must to give the registration id for accessing SuSE email support ?

If you expect to download fixes, you need a support id.

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Re: J2EE performance?

2004-06-21 Thread Davis, Larry
Same thing here, The developers were trying to compare a Sun Box to the
Frame and found there application was running 2.5 times slower on the frame,
and I was using an IFL on a z-800. The Application was a numeric intensive
application using JBoss.

Larry Davis 

-Original Message-
From: Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 09:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: J2EE performance?

I had the same problem with J2EE applications using a JBoss in Linux for
s390.

[]4s,
Antonio.

- Original Message -
From: "David Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: J2EE performance?


Brandon,

I feel your pain.  We have a z800-0X2 and even when DEDICATEing an entire
processor (roughly 80 MIPS) to a single VM guest (Linux or z/OS) running
WebSphere we see TERRIBLE performance.  It consumes the entire 80 MIPS for
several minutes during WebSphere initialization and then the demo app,
PetStore, runs very very slowly. Plant Store is not much better.

I'm from the old school, and 80 MIPS is a LOT, I mean, A LOT of processor
power to throw at an App Server.  WebSphere is no CICS, that's for sure!

David Booher, Systems Programmer
Quest  Software
4320 Winfield Rd, Suite 500
Warrenville, IL  60555
630.836.3196
http://www.quest.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brandon
Darbro
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: J2EE performance?


I've had the opportunity to play with JBOSS recently, as well as watch some
Websphere testing on our linux guests, and I'm not very happy with the
performance and resource utilization.

Let's see... what can I tell you about our system:

* z800
* 2 IFL's (tested using single and dual, still slow) in LPAR
* z/VM 4.4.0
* guest lan networking
* 256 meg RAM
* 512 meg vdisk swap

Observations:

* Turning of hz_timer patch helps lower CPU utilization footprint of the
java processes, but of course, then the system never sleeps.
* When running a J2EE app, it takes often over a minute to finish rendering
a page to a browser.
* When running a J2EE app, java consumes an entire IFL of cpu if we let it.

I understand others are successfully running J2EE implimentations on
mainframe Linux, so here are my questions:

1.  Is J2EE a cpu resource hog for you?
2.  Are you running Linux under VM or right on the LPAR?
3.  Do you charge users for MIP usage?  If so, how does this high CPU
utilization not eat your customer alive in billed costs?
4.  Does anyone have some advice on how to run J2EE services more
efficiently, faster and easier on cpu?
5.  Which J2EE server software for mainframe Linux do you prefer and why?
6.  Lastly, why would you choose to run J2EE on mainframe Linux as apposed
to some stand-alone system (Unix, Windows, Other)?

Thanks folks,
*Brandon Darbro

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Re: PSW error when ipl zVM.

2004-06-21 Thread Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior.
Thanks for responses,

I am trying to use in LOADPARM the parameter SYSG (SYSG will use the
3270 console intregated in HMC). Sometimes I can find it, other times I
can4t. I don4t know what is happening.

thanks in advanced,
Antonio.

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From: "Nick Laflamme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: PSW error when ipl zVM.


Anttnio Pires de Castro Jznior. wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am having problem when ipl zVM in z800 (my LPAR configs are ok), the
>HMC hardware message show the following PSW error: PSW A1010.
>Someone knows what is happening???
>
>Where can I download a manual about PSW error codes??
>
The last four digits of the disabled PSW are a CP error number, 1010 in
this case. Look in the CP Messages manual, or try "HELP HCP1010W".

In this case, it looks like CP can't find your console. Did you specify
a LOADPARM that gives the console address? If you're running second
level, is the virtual console in 3270 mode (not 3215)?

Feel free to join [EMAIL PROTECTED]; it's probably better for
VM-centric issues.

>thanks in advanced,
>Antonio.
>

Nick

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Re: J2EE performance?

2004-06-21 Thread Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior.
I had the same problem with J2EE applications using a JBoss in Linux for
s390.

[]4s,
Antonio.

- Original Message -
From: "David Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: J2EE performance?


Brandon,

I feel your pain.  We have a z800-0X2 and even when DEDICATEing an entire
processor (roughly 80 MIPS) to a single VM guest (Linux or z/OS) running
WebSphere we see TERRIBLE performance.  It consumes the entire 80 MIPS for
several minutes during WebSphere initialization and then the demo app,
PetStore, runs very very slowly. Plant Store is not much better.

I'm from the old school, and 80 MIPS is a LOT, I mean, A LOT of processor
power to throw at an App Server.  WebSphere is no CICS, that's for sure!

David Booher, Systems Programmer
Quest  Software
4320 Winfield Rd, Suite 500
Warrenville, IL  60555
630.836.3196
http://www.quest.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Brandon Darbro
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: J2EE performance?


I've had the opportunity to play with JBOSS recently, as well as watch
some Websphere testing on our linux guests, and I'm not very happy with
the performance and resource utilization.

Let's see... what can I tell you about our system:

* z800
* 2 IFL's (tested using single and dual, still slow) in LPAR
* z/VM 4.4.0
* guest lan networking
* 256 meg RAM
* 512 meg vdisk swap

Observations:

* Turning of hz_timer patch helps lower CPU utilization footprint of
the java processes, but of course, then the system never sleeps.
* When running a J2EE app, it takes often over a minute to finish
rendering a page to a browser.
* When running a J2EE app, java consumes an entire IFL of cpu if we let
it.

I understand others are successfully running J2EE implimentations on
mainframe Linux, so here are my questions:

1.  Is J2EE a cpu resource hog for you?
2.  Are you running Linux under VM or right on the LPAR?
3.  Do you charge users for MIP usage?  If so, how does this high CPU
utilization not eat your customer alive in billed costs?
4.  Does anyone have some advice on how to run J2EE services more
efficiently, faster and easier on cpu?
5.  Which J2EE server software for mainframe Linux do you prefer and
why?
6.  Lastly, why would you choose to run J2EE on mainframe Linux as
apposed to some stand-alone system (Unix, Windows, Other)?

Thanks folks,
*Brandon Darbro

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Re: J2EE performance?

2004-06-21 Thread David Booher
Brandon, 

I feel your pain.  We have a z800-0X2 and even when DEDICATEing an entire processor 
(roughly 80 MIPS) to a single VM guest (Linux or z/OS) running WebSphere we see 
TERRIBLE performance.  It consumes the entire 80 MIPS for several minutes during 
WebSphere initialization and then the demo app, PetStore, runs very very slowly. Plant 
Store is not much better.  

I'm from the old school, and 80 MIPS is a LOT, I mean, A LOT of processor power to 
throw at an App Server.  WebSphere is no CICS, that's for sure!

David Booher, Systems Programmer
Quest  Software
4320 Winfield Rd, Suite 500
Warrenville, IL  60555
630.836.3196
http://www.quest.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Brandon Darbro
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: J2EE performance?


I've had the opportunity to play with JBOSS recently, as well as watch
some Websphere testing on our linux guests, and I'm not very happy with
the performance and resource utilization.

Let's see... what can I tell you about our system:

* z800
* 2 IFL's (tested using single and dual, still slow) in LPAR
* z/VM 4.4.0
* guest lan networking
* 256 meg RAM
* 512 meg vdisk swap

Observations:

* Turning of hz_timer patch helps lower CPU utilization footprint of
the java processes, but of course, then the system never sleeps.
* When running a J2EE app, it takes often over a minute to finish
rendering a page to a browser.
* When running a J2EE app, java consumes an entire IFL of cpu if we let
it.

I understand others are successfully running J2EE implimentations on
mainframe Linux, so here are my questions:

1.  Is J2EE a cpu resource hog for you?
2.  Are you running Linux under VM or right on the LPAR?
3.  Do you charge users for MIP usage?  If so, how does this high CPU
utilization not eat your customer alive in billed costs?
4.  Does anyone have some advice on how to run J2EE services more
efficiently, faster and easier on cpu?
5.  Which J2EE server software for mainframe Linux do you prefer and
why?
6.  Lastly, why would you choose to run J2EE on mainframe Linux as
apposed to some stand-alone system (Unix, Windows, Other)?

Thanks folks,
*Brandon Darbro

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Re: PSW error when ipl zVM.

2004-06-21 Thread Nick Laflamme
Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior. wrote:
Hi,
   I am having problem when ipl zVM in z800 (my LPAR configs are ok), the
HMC hardware message show the following PSW error: PSW A1010.
   Someone knows what is happening???
   Where can I download a manual about PSW error codes??
The last four digits of the disabled PSW are a CP error number, 1010 in 
this case. Look in the CP Messages manual, or try "HELP HCP1010W".

In this case, it looks like CP can't find your console. Did you specify 
a LOADPARM that gives the console address? If you're running second 
level, is the virtual console in 3270 mode (not 3215)?

Feel free to join [EMAIL PROTECTED]; it's probably better for 
VM-centric issues.

thanks in advanced,
Antonio.
Nick
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Re: PSW error when ipl zVM.

2004-06-21 Thread McKown, John
The general thing is to look up HCPW where  is the hard wait code. 1010 is "no 
console"


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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior.
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 8:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: PSW error when ipl zVM.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am having problem when ipl zVM in z800 (my LPAR configs 
> are ok), the
> HMC hardware message show the following PSW error: PSW A1010.
> Someone knows what is happening???
> 
> Where can I download a manual about PSW error codes??
> 
> thanks in advanced,
> Antonio.
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PSW error when ipl zVM.

2004-06-21 Thread Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior.
Hi,

I am having problem when ipl zVM in z800 (my LPAR configs are ok), the
HMC hardware message show the following PSW error: PSW A1010.
Someone knows what is happening???

Where can I download a manual about PSW error codes??

thanks in advanced,
Antonio.

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FW: Joke (groaner ) About IBM

2004-06-21 Thread McKown, John
This is terrible! 


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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Joke (groaner ) About IBM
> 
> 
> IBM has been trying to increase market share by recruiting to 
> more obscure
> markets for Internet access. They've even attempted to get 
> the monasteries
> connected to the Internet. At one small monastery in France, 
> the monsignor,
> Father Jean-Paul, was not interested in getting access to the 
> Internet, but
> one monk, Brother William, tried to persuade him. As an additional
> incentive, IBM even offered to give them free access for one year. The
> Father finally agreed but only under strict conditions that 
> the monk would
> only use the Internet for Biblical research.
> 
> Brother William started using the Internet and became amazed 
> at the amount
> of information available. He downloaded texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls,
> Biblical commentaries, and talked with people who studied the 
> ancient Greek
> and Hebrew languages. Father Jean-Paul was impressed with the 
> research done
> and the amount of information available, but continued to warn Brother
> William about the temptations of the Internet.
> 
> Well, Brother William continued his research, and soon he 
> became a bit of an
> authority himself on Biblical matters. Soon, people were 
> e-mailing him for
> information on the Bible and spiritual matters. He would answer their
> questions and even set up his own "Dear Monk" web site. He 
> even started
> sending out weekly heartwarming stories about how God was working in
> people's lives. Eventually he noticed that many people kept 
> asking the same
> questions over and over, so he created a little booklet of 
> frequently asked
> questions about God. But now Brother William had a dilemma. 
> He knew that
> according to human nature, people value information more if 
> they have to pay
> for it, but he had taken a vow of poverty and did not want 
> any money. So, he
> decided to set up charity fund for widows and orphans, and 
> all proceeds from
> his booklets would go to charity. So Brother William setup an Internet
> business where people would order one of his booklets, and he 
> would send it
> to them after they sent a small amount of money to the charity fund.
> 
> When Father Jean-Paul discovered what Brother William had done, he
> discharged him immediately from the monastery. For it seems 
> that the Father
> did not like his monk e-business.
> 
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Re: Samba -- Drivers not downloading to Windows Client

2004-06-21 Thread Daniel Jarboe
> I was successful in getting my Window's printer driver (for an HP
4600) to
> upload
> to the Samba directory  /usr/lib/samba/drivers/3
> I used the Windows client to do this, by following the instructions in
> Mike's redpaper..."Cups & Samba"

Typically it's /usr/lib/samba/drivers/W32X86/3

What's your smb.conf?  How did you upload the drivers?

~ Daniel








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