Re: Temporary disruption to channel paths - impact on z/Linux?

2006-02-18 Thread Ranga Nathan



Stephen Frazier wrote:

I would vary the paths offline, swap the card, and vary the paths
online. May
not be necessary but it might. No need to do anything to the linux
guests,
that's what VM is for.

That worked fine. We varied off the paths and the chpids, swapped the
card and then varied all back on. I had 'top' running on all linux
terminal sessions. There was no disruption.
Thanks for the help.


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We have a problem in our disk array. One of the ficon channel controller
cards is down. Our ops wants to swap it today. This will require downing
3 channel paths out of 6 that are shared to z/VM.

In the past, I have always shutdown all Linux instances and z/VM and
brought it back after the card swap.

If three out of the six are suddenly unavailable, would z/VM ignore them
and use the only three that are available? When all the six are
available when both cards are functioning, will z/VM auto-detect and use
the channels?

Would this all be transparent to the Linux guests?

Apparently this is not an issue on the z/OS side.

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Re: Temporary disruption to channel paths - impact on z/Linux?

2006-02-18 Thread Ingo Adlung
VM doesn't shield from Linux that there is 6 paths available, but Linux
sees them, too. I.e. if you vary CHPIDs offline the guest Linux will also
see them disappear. But you are also on the safe side with Linux as we can
handle channel outages, no matter if running under VM or LPAR. Assuring
such is part of a rigid device qualification program :-)

Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 18.02.2006 02:45:22:

> I would vary the paths offline, swap the card, and vary the paths online.
May
> not be necessary but it might. No need to do anything to the linux
guests,
> that's what VM is for.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > We have a problem in our disk array. One of the ficon channel
controller
> > cards is down. Our ops wants to swap it today. This will require
downing
> > 3 channel paths out of 6 that are shared to z/VM.
> >
> > In the past, I have always shutdown all Linux instances and z/VM and
> > brought it back after the card swap.
> >
> > If three out of the six are suddenly unavailable, would z/VM ignore
them
> > and use the only three that are available? When all the six are
> > available when both cards are functioning, will z/VM auto-detect and
use
> > the channels?
> >
> > Would this all be transparent to the Linux guests?
> >
> > Apparently this is not an issue on the z/OS side.
> >
> > --
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> > Ranga Nathan
> > Work: 714-442-7591
>
> --
> Stephen Frazier
> Information Technology Unit
> Oklahoma Department of Corrections
> 3400 Martin Luther King
> Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
> Tel.: (405) 425-2549
> Fax: (405) 425-2554
> Pager: (405) 690-1828
> email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us
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Re: Temporary disruption to channel paths - impact on z/Linux?

2006-02-18 Thread Ranga Nathan



Ingo Adlung wrote:

VM doesn't shield from Linux that there is 6 paths available, but Linux
sees them, too. I.e. if you vary CHPIDs offline the guest Linux will also
see them disappear. But you are also on the safe side with Linux as we can
handle channel outages, no matter if running under VM or LPAR. Assuring
such is part of a rigid device qualification program :-)
  


That is nice to know. However when we swapped cards some time ago when 
Linux was running on bare metal, we had problems. Perhaps we did not 
vary off the channel on the linux lpar before we swapped the cards?

Linux on 390 Port  wrote on 18.02.2006 02:45:22:

  

I would vary the paths offline, swap the card, and vary the paths online.


May
  

not be necessary but it might. No need to do anything to the linux


guests,
  

that's what VM is for.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



We have a problem in our disk array. One of the ficon channel
  

controller
  

cards is down. Our ops wants to swap it today. This will require
  

downing
  

3 channel paths out of 6 that are shared to z/VM.

In the past, I have always shutdown all Linux instances and z/VM and
brought it back after the card swap.

If three out of the six are suddenly unavailable, would z/VM ignore
  

them
  

and use the only three that are available? When all the six are
available when both cards are functioning, will z/VM auto-detect and
  

use
  

the channels?

Would this all be transparent to the Linux guests?

Apparently this is not an issue on the z/OS side.

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Work: 714-442-7591
  

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Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
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Fax: (405) 425-2554
Pager: (405) 690-1828
email:  stevef%doc.state.ok.us

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