Re: Linux and IBM Virtual Tape System

2006-10-04 Thread David Boyes
Depends on how the library is connected. You can't use the channel-attached 
variety with mtlib, afaik.



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Subject: Linux and IBM Virtual Tape System

Somewhere along the line, I got the impression that Linux (SUSE)
couldn't support an IBM VTS.  I think it can read and write the tapes,
but couldn't control the VTS for mounting tapes.

However, the following seems to say otherwise:

"The mtlib program provides an interface to the physical tape drives
and volumes within a 3494 Tape Library and also to the virtual tape
drives and volumes within an attached IBM TotalStorage Virtual Tape
Server (VTS).

This is from the "IBM TotalStorage and System Storage Tape Device
Drivers:  Installation and User's Guide".
April 2006 Edition.

That implies to me that I can have zLinux use the VTS for tape storage.
 I do understand that many applications can only use scsi attached tape
drives, which the VTS isn't, but it can be used for "some" tape
purposes.

Is that right?  Or is there still, other, more severe restrictions that
make the VTS really unacceptable to use in a zLinux system?

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread Lee Stewart

I agree with all the NFS comments...   But...

But the customer's goal is to reduce MVS (oops, sorry, z/OS) cycles.  He
uses FTP today to move the file from MVS to *IX.  While NFS is a choice,
I doubt that it would save a significant amount of MVS overhead compared
to the FTP transfer.

Thanks,
Lee

Alan Altmark wrote:

On Wednesday, 10/04/2006 at 01:49 CST, Lee Stewart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a pack where
I have read access to that DASD volume?

What about multiple extents across multiple volumes?  (It's a 50gig

file.)

No.

This is what NFS is for and it makes all the nasty problems introduced by
snooping on MVS disks go away.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/04/2006 at 04:30 AST, "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> If you use the DASD driver recently talked about here, yes.  (At least
> the first volume of it, I don't know about the rest.  Perhaps the driver
> author could clarify that.)  I would certainly not recommend it however.
> The auditors are likely to have a fit.

And trying to do this on a live MVS system is unreliable at best.  Let MVS
read the data since he knows where everything is located.  He can even
find it if it has been migrated elsewhere.

As a general rule, disk snooping makes my skin crawl.
1.  It tears huge holes in the security and data integrity fabric of the
universe.  The victimized operating system cannot audit the fact that you
accessed the data and that could violate both company audit policy and
governmental regulations.  Convenience and performance aren't the best
defenses.
2.  You risk getting [apparently] corrupted data if the victim decides to
update things whilst you're snooping.
3.  If you take action to prevent #2, then you risk operational
interference.

Of course, if the victim or the data doesn't fall under any particular
security policy and data integrity isn't all that important, "never mind".

I make exceptions for emergency data/system recovery operations, of
course.  I mean, if you have no alternative, ok, but if alternatives
exist, use them.

Alan Altmark
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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread John Campbell
David Andrews wrote:
> Lee Stewart wrote:
>> From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS)
>> on a pack where I have read access to that DASD volume?
>
> You probably could using NFS.  (Don't have any experience,
> sorry.)

Isn't FTP available?  And could the z/OS box initiate the
connection, if need be?

I can understand wanting to "open" it so there's no actual
time or DASD consumed, so that the program that needs to
doink with the data can read directly from an existing copy
rather than having to handle it locally.

Mind you, when it comes to zSeries, I am *way* out of my
depth.  (Of course, I try to dream big...)


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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread José L . Ramírez
Hi,

You can configure the NFS server under zOS, then you can install this RPM on 
your linux guest (http://www.sinenomine.net/vm/mvslogin) and you should be able 
to connect...  We have several linux servers setup this way and it works very 
good...

Regards,

Jose

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Subject: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

Hi all...

 From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a pack where
I have read access to that DASD volume?

What about multiple extents across multiple volumes?  (It's a 50gig file.)

Thanks,
Lee
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Issue with Velocity snmpd for Linux.

2006-10-04 Thread Brandon Darbro

Using Velocity's snmpd on our SLES 9 systems, we're getting some rather
large snmpd logs, mostly filled with the following lines repeated again
and again:

No MemShared line in /proc/meminfo
No page line in /proc/stat
No swap line in /proc/stat

Now I don't see anything in the mibs that would map directly to those
log lines.  Anyone know where to hunt down the culprit?  Could it not be
in the mibs but be something Velocity on the other side of the house is
polling via snmp and causing these errors?

*Brandon

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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 13:49 -0600, Lee Stewart wrote:
> From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a pack where
> I have read access to that DASD volume?

You probably could using NFS.  (Don't have any experience, sorry.)

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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread Post, Mark K
If you use the DASD driver recently talked about here, yes.  (At least
the first volume of it, I don't know about the rest.  Perhaps the driver
author could clarify that.)  I would certainly not recommend it however.
The auditors are likely to have a fit.

50GB is not too much to ship over an internal network using
HiperSockets.


Mark Post

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Subject: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

Hi all...

 From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a pack where
I have read access to that DASD volume?

What about multiple extents across multiple volumes?  (It's a 50gig
file.)

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 10/04/2006 at 01:49 CST, Lee Stewart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a pack where
> I have read access to that DASD volume?
>
> What about multiple extents across multiple volumes?  (It's a 50gig
file.)

No.

This is what NFS is for and it makes all the nasty problems introduced by
snooping on MVS disks go away.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Lee Stewart
> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 2:49 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?
> 
> 
> Hi all...
> 
>  From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a 
> pack where
> I have read access to that DASD volume?
> 
> What about multiple extents across multiple volumes?  (It's a 
> 50gig file.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Lee
> --

Not that I'm aware of.

However, you should be able to use NFS on z/OS to "export" the file in
such a way that z/Linux NFS can "import" it and you can read it via NFS.


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Linux and IBM Virtual Tape System

2006-10-04 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Somewhere along the line, I got the impression that Linux (SUSE)
couldn't support an IBM VTS.  I think it can read and write the tapes,
but couldn't control the VTS for mounting tapes.

However, the following seems to say otherwise:

"The mtlib program provides an interface to the physical tape drives
and volumes within a 3494 Tape Library and also to the virtual tape
drives and volumes within an attached IBM TotalStorage Virtual Tape
Server (VTS).

This is from the "IBM TotalStorage and System Storage Tape Device
Drivers:  Installation and User's Guide".
April 2006 Edition.

That implies to me that I can have zLinux use the VTS for tape storage.
 I do understand that many applications can only use scsi attached tape
drives, which the VTS isn't, but it can be used for "some" tape
purposes.

Is that right?  Or is there still, other, more severe restrictions that
make the VTS really unacceptable to use in a zLinux system?

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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Re: Oracle on RedHat and access from z/OS

2006-10-04 Thread Ed Rabara
>You can run the Oracle client software on z/OS to connect to any Oracle
>instance to which it has a userid/password on any other system running
>an Oracle server. The client uses TCP/IP for its transport, so the
>client and server must be able to communicate to each other over
TCP/IP.
> 
>Also note that if you need z/OS CICS to talk to a remote Oracle server,
>that is also possible.
>
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Now that John mentioned the Oracle Client for z/OS, does anyone (other
than CA) on this list use the Oracle Client to communicate with Oracle
on *NIX (Oracle 9.2) from CA-IDMS (ver 16.0) on z/OS? Would you care to
take questions offline?

TIA, Ed Rabara

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Reading a z/OS flat file from Linux?

2006-10-04 Thread Lee Stewart

Hi all...

From Linux on z, can I read a z/OS flat file (DSORG=PS) on a pack where
I have read access to that DASD volume?

What about multiple extents across multiple volumes?  (It's a 50gig file.)

Thanks,
Lee
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Re: zVM V520 and SUSE 10 cause SYSTEM FAILURE CODE HPC010 (and a VM re-ipl)

2006-10-04 Thread Michael MacIsaac
You might try over on the ibmvm list server ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I found this hit on the Web:
  http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind0603&L=ibmvm&T=0&P=57590

Where Jim Vincent said:
   We have z/VM 5.2 on 12 systems here - all but 1 are production systems.
   Generally they have been running very well.  As I mentioned, a couple
   HTT001 abends hit us along with a pesky HPC010 that is still eluding us.

I would guess you'll get an answer there.

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Reiser mess

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Dembry
> I hadn't made the connection with the missing Nina Reiser, ex-husband
> named Hans Reiser, who has been in the news here lately, until I read
> some of the comments there.  She's the mother of 2 young children who
> went missing in Berkeley one afternoon a few weeks ago.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=local&id=4558883
Paul


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Re: Suse S390 help?

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Dembry
Thanks guys it works now. Lessons from the experience:

1. Just because you can get stuff from the Novell FTP server doesn't mean
that you should. Use the publically available downloads.
2. Give your Hercules machine at least 512 MB, preferably 1GB. I was
initially using a 256MB machine and it was painfully slow, eg. 30-40 minutes
between installation panels.
3. Don't use anything but a 3390-3 for the installation disks. I tried a
3390-9 and dasdfmt said that it was formatting 9 cylinders. After
the installation, I have been able to add 3390-9 disks.

I cannot get LVM to work at all. It's still very slow compared to other
operating systems running on the same Hercules installation but part of this
could be because I am using NFS to access the disks. Perhaps there are some
tuning knobs that I can tweak. Suse is constantly hitting the drives and
spinning the (emulated) CPU.
Paul



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Re: Interesting? SUSE 10.2 to not default to ReiserFS

2006-10-04 Thread Marcy Cortes
I hadn't made the connection with the missing Nina Reiser, ex-husband
named Hans Reiser, who has been in the news here lately, until I read
some of the comments there.  She's the mother of 2 young children who
went missing in Berkeley one afternoon a few weeks ago. 

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ReiserFS

If you don't read the whole thing, note that this is just a proposal at
this point in time, and currently only for OpenSUSE.  Reiserfs will
still be one of the options, just not the default.


Mark Post 

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Likely not impressive to those here, but I remember a discussion about
this (adding "in the past" seems redundant since I'm not likely to
remember something that hasn't occurred yet, right?)

http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/suse-102-ditching-reiserfs-as-it-d
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Re: Interesting? SUSE 10.2 to not default to ReiserFS

2006-10-04 Thread Post, Mark K
If you don't read the whole thing, note that this is just a proposal at
this point in time, and currently only for OpenSUSE.  Reiserfs will
still be one of the options, just not the default.


Mark Post 

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Likely not impressive to those here, but I remember a discussion about
this (adding "in the past" seems redundant since I'm not likely to
remember something that hasn't occurred yet, right?)

http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/suse-102-ditching-reiserfs-as-it-d
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Interesting? SUSE 10.2 to not default to ReiserFS

2006-10-04 Thread McKown, John
Likely not impressive to those here, but I remember a discussion about
this (adding "in the past" seems redundant since I'm not likely to
remember something that hasn't occurred yet, right?)

http://linux.wordpress.com/2006/09/27/suse-102-ditching-reiserfs-as-it-d
efault-fs/

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Re: Vswitch and SuSE SLES 8 installs...

2006-10-04 Thread Gianfranco Ciotti

Nix, Robert P. wrote:

We recently converted from guest LAN entirely to Vswitch, and all of the
SuSE SLES 8 guests converted easily. We've been asked for an additional
SLES 8 guest, and can't seem to define a proper network interface to
connect it to the Vswitch. What options should we be using? Everything
we've tried appears to not find the correct driver when it comes time to
load it.


modify /etc/chandev.conf file (copy it from a sles8 already converted)
and add a qeth interface (manually or via Yast).

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Re: Vswitch and SuSE SLES 8 installs...

2006-10-04 Thread Rich Smrcina

Did you grant authority for the user to connect to the vswitch?

Nix, Robert P. wrote:

We recently converted from guest LAN entirely to Vswitch, and all of the
SuSE SLES 8 guests converted easily. We've been asked for an additional
SLES 8 guest, and can't seem to define a proper network interface to
connect it to the Vswitch. What options should we be using? Everything
we've tried appears to not find the correct driver when it comes time to
load it.

SuSE SLES 9 and 10 work admirably.



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Vswitch and SuSE SLES 8 installs...

2006-10-04 Thread Nix, Robert P.
We recently converted from guest LAN entirely to Vswitch, and all of the
SuSE SLES 8 guests converted easily. We've been asked for an additional
SLES 8 guest, and can't seem to define a proper network interface to
connect it to the Vswitch. What options should we be using? Everything
we've tried appears to not find the correct driver when it comes time to
load it.

SuSE SLES 9 and 10 work admirably.

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Re: zVM V520 and SUSE 10 cause SYSTEM FAILURE CODE HPC010 (and a VM re-ipl)

2006-10-04 Thread Pieter Harder
Hi Leonard,

there is only one hit on HPC010 on Servicelink, apar VM64029 and it does hit 
V520 with ptf UM31830. It is the SPXTAPE thing you mention.

Best regards,
Pieter Harder

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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4-10-2006 12:08 >>>
Hello list,

last weekend we set our new zVM system pack V520 into production ans
started with a SUSE 10 install. At the installation process we got an 
...SYSTEM FAILURE: CODE HPC010
and a re-ipl of the zVM occured (hitting over 30 zLINUX images).

Has anyone got this error before? I have seen some entries on the VM
mailing list but not for V520 (and no SPXTAPE processing).

Regards
Leonard Janus
ekom21, Kassel, Germany

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zVM V520 and SUSE 10 cause SYSTEM FAILURE CODE HPC010 (and a VM re-ipl)

2006-10-04 Thread Janus, Leonard
Hello list,

last weekend we set our new zVM system pack V520 into production ans
started with a SUSE 10 install. At the installation process we got an 
...SYSTEM FAILURE: CODE HPC010
and a re-ipl of the zVM occured (hitting over 30 zLINUX images).

Has anyone got this error before? I have seen some entries on the VM
mailing list but not for V520 (and no SPXTAPE processing).

Regards
Leonard Janus
ekom21, Kassel, Germany

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