Re: Strange file type cannot be moved with scp or ftp

2007-05-28 Thread Rick Troth
Tom and Ray and others responded,  helping Bill with this.
If the list will indulge me,  I'd like to enumerate the seven
most common POSIX files.  Might come in handy:

plain files
directories
character special (eg: /dev/ttyS0)
block special (eg: /dev/dasda)
symbolic link
named pipe (or FIFO)
named socket

There are others,  usually vendor specific.
For instance,  OpenVM and OpenMVS have an "external link"
which looks like any old sym-link,  but the flag character at the
start of  'ls -l'  is an "E" instead of an "l".  Stuff like that.

The first four are the historical Unix files.
The others came along as Unix evolved, branched, and re-joined.
Prefix character of  'ls -l'  output is usually "-" for plain files
(I've also seen "F",  but I forget where;  maybe HP-UX)  and "d"
for directories.

Block special and character special are "devices".
Prefix character of  'ls -l'  output is  "b" and "c" respectively.

Symbolic links are pointers to a file or directory.
What's fun about sym-links is comparing them to hard links.
With sym-links,  there is the concept of  "the real file"
(the thing they point to).  But with hard links,  there is
no such animal.  Both hard links (assuming there are only two)
are directory entries pointing to the same INODE on disk.

Named pipes are cool!  You can have a program open one to read
and it will sit there ... forever ... until another program opens it
for write and plunks something into it.  This is probably what happened
in Bill's case.  Prefix char is "p" as you noted.

I've never understood named sockets or how they differ
from named pipes.  Prefix char is "s".

-- R;

On Tue, 1 May 2007, Bill Dodge wrote:

> I am trying to move some files from one linux(Redhat if it matters) to 
> another and both scp and ftp are hanging on a strange file type.  I can't 
> find any reference to what this file type is but since it has a size of 0 I 
> am thinking I can just ignore it.
>
> Does anyone know what this might be?
> |
> V
> prw-r--r--  1 1 1   0 Feb  3 23:46 PIPE.dmp
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Re: Let Novell Know if you want a easy CMS-friendly starter system!

2007-05-28 Thread Rick Troth
Dave ...
Great idea!  Let me abuse your thread just a bit.

I cannot help but think that this is a job for inverse TN3270.
(Not sure what else to call it.  Maybe "reverse protocol conversion"?)
Making a Linux distro CMS-friendly is one thing,  and is VERY useful.
But making it 3270-friendly is closer to  "same as a PC",  which is
what some customers expect.  The principle of least astonishment
comes into play.  Let me explain.

Getting the  *output*  from 'yast' and other textual (but full-screen)
tools to display on a 3270 is easy.  It's the  *input*  from a 3270
which is more challenging,  and that only because the text mode apps
presume on byte-at-a-time keystroke interaction.  But we who live in
the 3270 world know full well that block-mode input is fully interactive.

I know some Novell and SuSE people are on the list.
I hope they hear this!

Let me say it again:  TUI output to a 3270 is TRIVIAL
and TUI input from a 3270 is EMINENTLY DOABLE.  The difference
between byte-at-a-time TUI apps and bock-mode TUI apps is simple
key assignment.  Use the function keys along with bursts of text
and there is no problem.

The UTS folks (back when UTS was young and they were part of Amdahl)
demonstrated that applications can be written which work equally well
with either a byte-mode ASCII terminal or a block-mode 3270 tube.
My point in saying that this happened a long time ago is only to
note that there is no new technology required,  and there's no
exclusion of the expected "traditional" behaviour.  You can get YaST
(or any such TUI)  to handle a 3270 without losing its current traits.

Applications built to deal with both terminal types have two ways
they can go:  front-end a kind of reverse protocol converter
(with a variant of ANSI X3.64 on input and  *unchanged*  X3.64 output)
or bypass that and detect the 3270 and handle that stream directly.

Yeah ... we gotta have it!
CMS-friendly is great.  But go ahead and also make them 3270-friendly.
It's just too easy to not do.

-- R;

On Fri, 18 May 2007, David Boyes wrote:

> A few months ago, a couple of people complained about how difficult it
> is to get Linux started on the mainframe and how foreign the process is
> for mostly mainframe shops.
>
> At that time, the people on the list discussed creating a starter system
> for Linux that could be downloaded from Novell's WWW sites and installed
> using more CMS-friendly tools. We (SNA) have been having conversations
> with Novell and they have asked for a show of support for people who
> have experienced the problem of getting started and would find the
> ability to download a small starter system that would provide an
> installation server for future Linux guests w/o the hassle of tape IPL,
> etc useful.
>
> If this is a tool that you would find useful as you ramp up to your
> first install, or that would have stuck out as significantly easier to
> install (and thus would have helped you decide on SUSE), please send
> mail to mpost at novell.com. No guarantees, but if we get a reasonable
> number of responses, we'll be able to make the case to Novell that they
> should make  the tool available.
>
> All we need is a show of hands that people would find it useful. Send
> Mark a short note, please.
>
> -- db
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> Sine Nomine Associates
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DB2 Replication monitoring

2007-05-28 Thread Aristarc Diez Redorta
Hi all,

I'm trying to configure Replication Monitor for DB2 v9 on zLinux and I
cannot change the sender for the email notification.
When I do a trace, then sender is  asnmon@. How can I change
this?

Thanks in advance,
Aris.

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