Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server
What about Fax Over IP (FoIP), do you know if Hylafax supports that? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:00 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server If you have an external modem server device (like a Cisco AS5300 or similar), it's possible and actually very scalable. The combination of CUPS to produce the formatted output and Hylafax to do the transmission works fine on Linux for Z. You need the external modem server to handle the interface with the POTS lines, as Z hardware has no native serial or modem capability. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Hipersocket Guest Lan Question
On Thursday, 11/15/2007 at 05:28 EST, Spracklen, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think part of my confusion came from reading section 4.3 of the Linux for IBM System z9 and IBM zSeries redbook and mis-interpreting the paragraph regarding the hipersockets not using LAN frame, instead they are addressed by data queue addresses. I guess I read too much into it and that I took that to say that the mac address and ip address are no longer part of that data stream and that the ip stack knew that destination by an internal device address instead of ip address and did not use normal ip routing. Did I read it incorrectly and is the network layer info (dest ip address etc) still in the frame of data? So that a network concentrator like Linux on z/OS just needs to change the frame protocol to go out the appropriate interface much a like a router supporting token ring and Ethernet. This is a case of the authors knowing just enough to be dangerous. :-) People like to talk about How It Works when it comes to HiperSockets and OSAs. (Who can blame them?) Unfortunately you get incomplete and sometimes (often?) inaccurate information about the mechanism, but no information on what happens between source and destination (because the person doesn't know). I don't mean for this to sound Zen, but I would say that HiperSockets works exactly as it must in order to accomplish the goals set before it: - Create an in-box isolated LAN segment sharable among and within LPARs - Enable z/OS OSA-HiperSockets concentrator - Enable Linux flavor of the same thing (HiperSockets accelerator) Because the interface to HiperSockets is not published, I am unable to go into any details about the interface. In my previous post I tried to describe the *bevhavior* as best I could. It looks like I need to give it more thought to determine just how many Linux guest will want hipersocket access to z/os data. It may not be worth the effort to configure a hipersocket guest lan for the the Linux guests to connect into, just save on real hipersocket addresses. You know those recent posts about QIOASSIST? You will want to pay attention to them as they apply to dedicated HiperSockets connections, too. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
If by in house you mean installed then no. We do have the DVD for z/VM. I don't see how having z/VM helps. The problem is getting the files from CD to z/VM (actually to the Linux installer). Believe it or not the only DVD reader we have here is the one on the HMC. All of our Intel systems have CD readers, and not DVD readers. We only have one CD writer in the entire department. As far a I know we have no DVD writers. This seems to be due to some miss-guided security constraint. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:22 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux install from z/OS. On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:13 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fargusson.Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone tried to use z/OS to serve the install CDs for Linux? Yes, someone did, and reported their results here. I think they used FTP, though. Search the archives for more, but they did have some issues they needed to correct. I'm assuming you're asking this because you don't have z/VM in house? -snip- The problem I have is that we don't have an Intel Linux system that I can put the install CDs on. We also don't have a Windows box with enough disk space. All we have are laptops with little RAM and small disks. Are you really talking about CDs, or one DVD? If the latter, then you don't need any space on a hard drive. Also, what version of what distribution is this? If it's SLES10, you can actually insert the DVD (or CD1) into an Intel box and boot from it. It won't touch your hard drive. After you get some network setup done (unfortunately manual at this point in time), you have an install server on your desk. I should also note that our operations group says it is too dangerous to use the HMC as a file server. Uhh, yeah. Right. Meaning they're afraid of the unknown. Oh well. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:54 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] , Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- slmgsb04:~ # ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv +7G ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b new filesystem size 1835008 using 0 reserved group descriptor blocks ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device, newgd = 1) ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/rootvg-appl--lv Try just doing ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv and see what happens. If it still doesn't like it, you may need to try unmounting the file system. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10
Thanks Mark -- I'll try that (I think again but make sure I have the -v for more messages). See my follow up note where I actually asked questions ! Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10 On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:54 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] y01.ad.safeway.com , Jerry Whitteridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- slmgsb04:~ # ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv +7G ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b new filesystem size 1835008 using 0 reserved group descriptor blocks ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device, newgd = 1) ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/rootvg-appl--lv Try just doing ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv and see what happens. If it still doesn't like it, you may need to try unmounting the file system. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 12:56 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fargusson.Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If by in house you mean installed then no. We do have the DVD for z/VM. I don't see how having z/VM helps. Having z/VM helps if you're trying to install SLES10, due to the downloadable starter system. If you're installing RHEL or anything else, then z/VM just makes the rest of your life easier, not necessarily the installation piece. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: GUI development tools
Anyone have any thoughts as to good open source tools to do these types of user interfaces running under zLinux? Eclipse, hands down. It provides both the ability to do the XML munging in a controlled way (helps prevent stupid pilot error), plus the ability to construct much more sophisticated interfaces if you want to do it. Also is very tolerant about remote vs local users. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: ZSeries Linux Fax Server
Also, I don't know if they still exist, but there are/were companies that take messages from you (via IP) and fax them for you. If you are not talking about a lot of messages, that may be a good fit. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Stretching A cat will stretch to a distance proportional to the length of the nap just taken. David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/15/2007 10:19 PM If you can figure out how to drive a modem from your mainframe, I would say it's possible. I don't think that's very likely any more though. Actually, it's quite easy. Any network-attached terminal server will work fine. Hylafax has code to drive modems attached to these type of devices included in the package. If your company has any kind of PPP dialup service, you probably have everything you need. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: GUI development tools
Thanks for that. The XML stuff is mostly done already. It's the tools for operator and developer use for controlling the system we are now starting to look at, so these will be essentially custom utility code. Look at Eclipse's Rich Client Interface. You can do some mighty cool stuff with it -- do a CLI for programmatic use, and then use Eclipse RCI to build all the GUI stuff on top of it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
I don't care how much CPU it uses. I can start it up and go do something else. I will look into getting the starter system. I don't make these decisions, so I don't know if we will be able to get it. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:27 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux install from z/OS. Has anyone tried to use z/OS to serve the install CDs for Linux? Yes. Don't do it. You won't like the CPU utilization on z/OS at all. The SMB support chews up a lot of CPU doing the SMB translation. The problem I have is that we don't have an Intel Linux system that I can put the install CDs on. We also don't have a Windows box with enough disk space. All we have are laptops with little RAM and small disks. If you're doing a install for VM and you're using SLES, then get the starter system image for SLES 10 from Novell and use that as your install source. If you're doing LPAR, well... hmm. See above re SMB. It'll work, but it's kind of anti-social. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
I don't care how much CPU it uses. I can start it up and go do something else. Lucky you. It's *really* a pig, though, so do it at night if you can. I will look into getting the starter system. I don't make these decisions, so I don't know if we will be able to get it. No cost (other than the download time). -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Online extend LVM group SLES10
Sorry guys the first part of the note didn't get sent for some reason. I'm trying to extend a mounted file system on SLES10 SP1 using ext2online and see the following messages. Could this be because these are EXT3 not ext2 ? Filesystem expansion works just fine when I go down to runlevel 1 and unmount the filesystem. Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc 925 951 4184 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Online extend LVM group SLES10 slmgsb04:~ # pvcreate /dev/dasde1 Physical volume /dev/dasde1 successfully created slmgsb04:~ # vgextend rootvg /dev/dasde1 Volume group rootvg successfully extended slmgsb04:~ # lvextend -L +7G /dev/rootvg/appl-lv Extending logical volume appl-lv to 7.07 GB Logical volume appl-lv successfully resized slmgsb04:~ # ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv +7G ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b new filesystem size 1835008 using 0 reserved group descriptor blocks ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device, newgd = 1) ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/rootvg-appl--lv Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
In most government installations, you need to get approval to get other stuff. We get it here all the time. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux install from z/OS. On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:53 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fargusson.Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't cost. I need to get approval for anything like this. Hmm. Sorry to hear that. Still, if you got approval to install Linux in the first place, it's hard to see them refusing to allow a no-cost tool to make it easier. Good luck, in any case. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: GUI development tools
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:45 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that. The XML stuff is mostly done already. It's the tools for operator and developer use for controlling the system we are now starting to look at, so these will be essentially custom utility code. Then Eclipse is still a really good idea. It can be used as an application framework for users, as well as developers. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
If by in house you mean installed then no. We do have the DVD for z/VM. Do that install first. I don't see how having z/VM helps. Once you have VM installed you can use the starter system download from Novell. It contains the entire DVD distribution of SLES 10 SP1. No files bigger than about 2G are involved, so even the small-disks should be able to do it if you do them one at a time. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Online extend LVM group SLES10
slmgsb04:~ # pvcreate /dev/dasde1 Physical volume /dev/dasde1 successfully created slmgsb04:~ # vgextend rootvg /dev/dasde1 Volume group rootvg successfully extended slmgsb04:~ # lvextend -L +7G /dev/rootvg/appl-lv Extending logical volume appl-lv to 7.07 GB Logical volume appl-lv successfully resized slmgsb04:~ # ext2online -v /dev/rootvg/appl-lv +7G ext2online v1.1.18 - 2001/03/18 for EXT2FS 0.5b new filesystem size 1835008 using 0 reserved group descriptor blocks ext2online: ext2_ioctl: No space left on device, newgd = 1) ext2online: unable to resize /dev/mapper/rootvg-appl--lv Email Firewall made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
It isn't cost. I need to get approval for anything like this. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:45 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux install from z/OS. On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:39 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fargusson.Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- I will look into getting the starter system. I don't make these decisions, so I don't know if we will be able to get it. There's no cost associated with the starter system. Makes it kinda nice for proof of concept work. :) Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Linux on System z Live Virtual Classes on Nov 27, Dec 4, Dec 11
I have been asked to pass along information about three upcoming Linux on System z Live Virtual Classes that may be of interest to many of you. Target audience: Linux on System z Customers, IBM System z Technical Sales, and System z Business Partners. There is no charge to participate in these technical education sessions. Linux on System z Planning: Where to Begin? Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 11:00 AM ET U.S. Canada / 5:00 PM GMT This live virtual class will address some of the basic planning topics that you should look at when considering Linux on System z. Speaker: John Schnitzler, IBM Washington Systems Center Connect to the Live Virtual Class (LVC) session using the following URL: https://asp22.centra.com:443/GA/main/005d3ac0011610802ba796c7 You can connect to the session up to 15 minutes prior to the start. Duration: 75 minutes * Linux on System z Security Tuesday, December 4, 2007 at 11:00 AM ET U.S. Canada / 5:00 PM GMT This presentation will cover a broad range of security topics relevant to enterprise deployments of Linux on System z. Vendor and open source offerings will be touched on, as well as some typical deployments including a DMZ. Also, options for hardware cryptography utilization will be explored in detail. Speaker:Peter Spera, IBM Linux on System z Design and System Integrity Competency Center. Connect to the Live Virtual Class (LVC) session using the following URL: https://asp22.centra.com:443/GA/main/005d3ac0011610802ba78f11 You can connect to the session up to 15 minutes prior to the start. Duration: 75 minutes * Making z/VM and Linux Guests Production Ready.. Best Practices Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 11:00 AM ET U.S. Canada / 5:00 PM GMT This live virtual class covers installation and configuration Best Practices for z/VM and Linux running as a guest of VM. It will highlight common misunderstandings and recommendations in the areas of cpu, memory and I/O when running in this environment. Speaker:Jon vonWolfersdorf, IBM Washington Systems Center. Connect to the Live Virtual Class (LVC) session using the following URL: https://asp22.centra.com:443/GA/main/005d3ac0011610802ba79770 You can connect to the session up to 15 minutes prior to the start. Duration: 75 minutes * System Check These Live Virtual Classes will be delivered using the Centra tool that employs Voice over IP to provide both the audio and the visuals on your Windows workstation. Prior to the session, you should run a System Check via the following URL to verify your workstation meets the following minimum requirements. (We have given Centra the requirement to provide a non-Windows client to connect to these sessions) System Check: https://stg.centra.com/SysCheck/main/Customers/ibmstg - Windows 2000 or Windows XP - ternet Explorer 5.01, Netscape 7.2, Firefox 1.0 or later. - 28.8 kbps or faster Internet connection - P350+ MHz, 128+ MB memory - 800x600 16-bit color display or better - sound card and speakers (to hear the audio portion of the LVC) - microphone (required if you want to ask a question during the LVC) If you are unable to connect to the Live Virtual Class session, you can listen to the audio portion of these three Linux sessions via telephone using the following: Phone Number 1: 1-888-240-4148 Phone Number 2: 1-719-234-0214 Access Code: 736296 Note: use of telephone connection does not provide the presentation charts nor does it provide capability for you to ask questions during the session. Replays: These three LVC's will also be available for playback after each event. The playback links will be posted on the z/VM website at: http://www.vm.ibm.com/events Please direct any questions to Dick Kendrick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Chuck Morse -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 1:53 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fargusson.Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't cost. I need to get approval for anything like this. Hmm. Sorry to hear that. Still, if you got approval to install Linux in the first place, it's hard to see them refusing to allow a no-cost tool to make it easier. Good luck, in any case. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Linux install from z/OS.
Has anyone tried to use z/OS to serve the install CDs for Linux? I know that there isn't a CD reader on the mainframe, but it seems that it would be just as easy to copy the CDs from a PC to z/OS as it is to copy them to a disk on the PC, if you have DFS/SMB configured (which I do). The problem I have is that we don't have an Intel Linux system that I can put the install CDs on. We also don't have a Windows box with enough disk space. All we have are laptops with little RAM and small disks. I should also note that our operations group says it is too dangerous to use the HMC as a file server. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux install from z/OS.
On Friday, 11/16/2007 at 12:14 EST, Fargusson.Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also note that our operations group says it is too dangerous to use the HMC as a file server. Dangerous? In what way? IMO, the HMC has excellent security characteristics, including a built-in configurable firewall. Usually, dangerous means We've never done that before and we're afraid we might break something. I suppose they're correct, in that sense. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4
On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Pieter Harder wrote: I think you need at least 768M to run the installer system. I know I've done it in 512MB. I don't know about 256MB, but probably not. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4
Possibly obvious question, but did you run a checksum on your download to be sure it was complete / uncorrupted? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 11/16/07 3:32 PM, David Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bumped it to 2G -- no go! This is Novell's SP1 release just downloaded from their website Bummer for sure! dave -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:17 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4 On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Pieter Harder wrote: I think you need at least 768M to run the installer system. I know I've done it in 512MB. I don't know about 256MB, but probably not. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4
It does work with 512M under VM with vswitch and installing from a FTP server. Up to the point of your failure, there really isn't anything for you to do (or can mess up either). The following is the exec for punching out the text decks needed to IPL from the reader: /* SLES10 IPL */ 'CLOSE RDR' 'PURGE RDR ALL' 'SPOOL PUN * RDR' 'PUNCH VMRDRIKR D (NOH' 'PUNCH PARMFILE IKR D (NOH' 'PUNCH INITRD IKR D (NOH' 'CHANGE RDR ALL NOHOLD' 'IPL 00C CLEAR' I wonder if your IPL decks are proper? I believe that INITRD and VMRDR had to be sent to VM in binary mode with quote site fix 80. The other file had to be sent in ASCII mode so the protocol conversion is done. Anyway, my PARMFILE looks like ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb I had SLES9 running on z/VM 4.2, but I only attempted SLES10 on z/VM 5.2. SLES10 is a 64 bit only flavor. Is your VM IPL'ed in 64 bit mode? Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting Law of Cat Stretching A cat will stretch to a distance proportional to the length of the nap just taken. David Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/2007 3:32 PM I bumped it to 2G -- no go! This is Novell's SP1 release just downloaded from their website Bummer for sure! dave -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:17 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4 On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Pieter Harder wrote: I think you need at least 768M to run the installer system. I know I've done it in 512MB. I don't know about 256MB, but probably not. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4
Hi, My EXEC looks the same and I transferred the vmrdr initrd as binary and the parmfile as ascii. In fact, I did it twice just to be sure I didn't mess it up. I'm now in the process or re-downloading SLES-10-SP1-s390x-CD1.iso just to be sure nothing happened during that massive download. dave -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4
Not such an obvious one :) The answer was NO. I'm in the process of re-downloading the .iso now. thanks for the suggestion, Dave -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:59 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Betr.: IPL problem with SLES10/ zVM 4.4 Possibly obvious question, but did you run a checksum on your download to be sure it was complete / uncorrupted? -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
