Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?

2009-01-30 Thread Bernie Wu
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Chan
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:50 AM
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Subject: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?

Hi all,

I have a DASD at 0405.

q dasd details 0405
0405  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = MV0405, CYLS =
3339   <--- 3339 cylinders
  CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
   -SUBSYSTEM   YY   Y   -N   N
  -DEVICE   Y-   -   YN   N
  DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 55, DDC = --
  DUPLEX DETAILS: --

  CU DETAILS: SSID = 0085, CUNUM = 0001


According the query it has 3339 cylinders.

But it seems that only 156 cylinders are visible to CP. For example, here
I try to CPFMTXA on it:

 cpfmtxa
 ENTER FORMAT, ALLOCATE, LABEL, OR QUIT:
 allocate
 ENTER THE VDEV TO BE PROCESSED OR QUIT:
 0405
 ENTER THE VOLUME LABEL FOR DISK 0405:
 mv0405
 HCPCCF6209I INVOKING ICKDSF.
 ICK030E DEFINE INPUT  DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "READER"

 CONSOLE
 ICK031E DEFINE OUTPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "PRINTER"

 CONSOLE
 ICKDSF - CMS/XA/ESA DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME: 12:18:

 ENTER INPUT COMMAND:
   CPVOL LIST UNIT(0405) VFY(MV0405)
 ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0405 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
   PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
   STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990
   STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9
   DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
   ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001F3C
   TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 156
< it sees only 156 cylinders
 ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE
 ICK00703I DEVICE IS OPERATED AS A MINIDISK
 ICK00091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791
 ICK091I   0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791
 ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = MV0405
 ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS
ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORD
ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 0405 FOLLOWS:

ICK03021I 0405 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE

  CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS:
  TYPE START  ENDTOTAL
   -  ----
  PERM 0  155156
<-- Only 156 cylinders

ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
  12:18:2801/30/09

ENTER INPUT COMMAND:
 END



This happened after an aborted Red hat installation and this particular
DASD was supposed to hold the root filesystem.
Is the DASD corrupted? Can it be fixed? With ICKDSF?

Any hints is much appreciated.


Chan Kok Leong
Internet: ch...@sg.ibm.com

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Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?

2009-01-30 Thread Jonathan R Nolting
You might a real vs virtual issue. Before the CPFORMAT command try a Q V 405.

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Subject: Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?



How is it defined in USER DIRECT ?

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kok Leong 
Chan
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:50 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?

Hi all,

I have a DASD at 0405.

q dasd details 0405
0405  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = MV0405, CYLS =
3339   <--- 3339 cylinders
  CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
   -SUBSYSTEM   YY   Y   -N   N
  -DEVICE   Y-   -   YN   N
  DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 55, DDC = --
  DUPLEX DETAILS: --

  CU DETAILS: SSID = 0085, CUNUM = 0001


According the query it has 3339 cylinders.

But it seems that only 156 cylinders are visible to CP. For example, here
I try to CPFMTXA on it:

 cpfmtxa
 ENTER FORMAT, ALLOCATE, LABEL, OR QUIT:
 allocate
 ENTER THE VDEV TO BE PROCESSED OR QUIT:
 0405
 ENTER THE VOLUME LABEL FOR DISK 0405:
 mv0405
 HCPCCF6209I INVOKING ICKDSF.
 ICK030E DEFINE INPUT  DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "READER"

 CONSOLE
 ICK031E DEFINE OUTPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "PRINTER"

 CONSOLE
 ICKDSF - CMS/XA/ESA DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME: 12:18:

 ENTER INPUT COMMAND:
   CPVOL LIST UNIT(0405) VFY(MV0405)
 ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0405 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
   PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
   STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990
   STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9
   DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
   ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001F3C
   TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 156
< it sees only 156 cylinders
 ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE
 ICK00703I DEVICE IS OPERATED AS A MINIDISK
 ICK00091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791
 ICK091I   0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791
 ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = MV0405
 ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS
ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORD
ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 0405 FOLLOWS:

ICK03021I 0405 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE

  CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS:
  TYPE START  ENDTOTAL
   -  ----
  PERM 0  155156
<-- Only 156 cylinders

ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
  12:18:2801/30/09

ENTER INPUT COMMAND:
 END



This happened after an aborted Red hat installation and this particular
DASD was supposed to hold the root filesystem.
Is the DASD corrupted? Can it be fixed? With ICKDSF?

Any hints is much appreciated.


Chan Kok Leong
Internet: ch...@sg.ibm.com

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Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?

2009-01-30 Thread Dave Jones

Hi, Chan Kok Leong

One possible explanation for this apparent discrepancy is the the command "Q 
DASD DETAILS
0405" returns information about a real DASD volume at real address 0405. The 
CPFMTXA
command returns information on the minidisk belonging to the issuing virtual 
machine at
(virtual) address 0405. For example, if you are logged onto, say, your RedHat 
installation
id, the CPFMTXA command will show you information on the install user id's 0405 
minidisk,
which appears to be in this case 156 cylinders.

It's easy sometimes to get confused between devices' real and virtual 
addresses, and which
commands take real addresses and which expect virtual ones.

Hope this helps some.

Kok Leong Chan wrote:

Hi all,

I have a DASD at 0405.

q dasd details 0405
0405  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = MV0405, CYLS =
3339   <--- 3339 cylinders
  CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
   -SUBSYSTEM   YY   Y   -N   N
  -DEVICE   Y-   -   YN   N
  DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 55, DDC = --
  DUPLEX DETAILS: --

  CU DETAILS: SSID = 0085, CUNUM = 0001


According the query it has 3339 cylinders.

But it seems that only 156 cylinders are visible to CP. For example, here
I try to CPFMTXA on it:

 cpfmtxa
 ENTER FORMAT, ALLOCATE, LABEL, OR QUIT:
 allocate
 ENTER THE VDEV TO BE PROCESSED OR QUIT:
 0405
 ENTER THE VOLUME LABEL FOR DISK 0405:
 mv0405
 HCPCCF6209I INVOKING ICKDSF.
 ICK030E DEFINE INPUT  DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "READER"

 CONSOLE
 ICK031E DEFINE OUTPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "PRINTER"

 CONSOLE
 ICKDSF - CMS/XA/ESA DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME: 12:18:

 ENTER INPUT COMMAND:
   CPVOL LIST UNIT(0405) VFY(MV0405)
 ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0405 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS:
   PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390
   STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990
   STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9
   DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A
   ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001F3C
   TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 156
< it sees only 156 cylinders
 ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE
 ICK00703I DEVICE IS OPERATED AS A MINIDISK
 ICK00091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791
 ICK091I   0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791
 ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = MV0405
 ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS
ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORD
ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 0405 FOLLOWS:

ICK03021I 0405 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE

  CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS:
  TYPE START  ENDTOTAL
   -  ----
  PERM 0  155156
<-- Only 156 cylinders

ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0
  12:18:2801/30/09

ENTER INPUT COMMAND:
 END



This happened after an aborted Red hat installation and this particular
DASD was supposed to hold the root filesystem.
Is the DASD corrupted? Can it be fixed? With ICKDSF?

Any hints is much appreciated.


Chan Kok Leong
Internet: ch...@sg.ibm.com

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SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Jones, Russell
Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time
zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the
hour offset?

Thanks,  

Russell Jones 
ANPAC
System Programmer
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Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Jack Woehr

ones, Russell wrote:

Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time
zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the
hour offset?


Two choices:

   * Move the host to Greenwich, England :)
   * Set your time zone http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux

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Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell"  wrote: 
> Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time
> zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the
> hour offset?

Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or z/VM 
system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the system about it.  
Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to, and then check that 
/etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and that you have /etc/localtime 
set to the correct time zone.


Mark Post

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Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Richard Clapper
Seems to me that we had to learn to set the UTC or Local parameter in the YaST 
Timezones screens, depending on how our hardware and/or VM settings were set, 
like Mark said.  Just food for thought!

>>> Mark Post  1/30/2009 10:39 AM >>>
>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell"  wrote: 
> Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time
> zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the
> hour offset?

Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or z/VM 
system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the system about it.  
Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to, and then check that 
/etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and that you have /etc/localtime 
set to the correct time zone.


Mark Post

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Re: Minidisks and DASD model 3/9

2009-01-30 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Among all the other thoughts that were brought upit depends on what
performance you want.

For example, I have some test Linux systems, that are a single 3390-9. 
All software is on it and data.  Just something easy to play with. 
However it is limited as the volume can only be on a single Raid Array. 
And every Raid Array can end up bottlenecking on I/O, if there is
sufficient I/O.  Your other Raid Arrays (I have 8 arrays), may be idle.

>From a performance side, Oracle seems to like to manage its own disks,
and of course, each disk being on separate Raid Arrays.  However, from a
management side, putting the disks in a LVM and giving it to Oracle,
saves people costs.  So, how busy is the Oracle?  If you are not
pounding it, then use LVM and save people costs.  

That type of consideration also plays for any application that has
large pools of disk space, Oracle, DB2, Samba, NFS, FTP Server, etc.

Raid Arrays really eliminated most of the dasd performance tuning we
use to do on a volume level.  But you still may need to do it on a Raid
Array level.

You may want to try this experiment:

Have Linux format 3 volumes.  Two volumes on the same Raid Array, and
the third on a different Raid Array.  When Linux is formatting all three
volumes at the same time, it has a "completion graph" shown.  The single
volume is formatted much faster then the other two.  I know, twice as
many I/Os should take longer, plus you are doing head seeks to boot. 
But it shows there is a difference in performance when you are on an
Array that is highly used, vs lightly used.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> עופר ברוך  1/29/2009 6:18 AM >>>
Hi all,

 

We just bought some dasd storage specifically for z/VM and for the
z/Linux
underneath.

This is the time to decide what model to use 3/9/27… Originally I
thought
"the bigger the better".

We are using DIRMAINT to manage dasd space and now I am not sure what
is the
best approach.

Here are my thoughts about large models:

1.   I am concerned about fragmentation. Using model-3 I could just
play
around with full disks not worrying about fragmentation (meaning –
adding
storage to a Linux guest will add a full model-3)

2.   I am concerned about IOSQ time. I know z/VM supports static
PAV but
that is just not comfortable… We don't have Hyperpav yet…

3.   Using big minidisks will make cloning difficult, (I must have
the
same big gaps available for cloning).

Here are my thoughts about model-3:

1.   Many Many device addresses…

Am I missing something? The more I think about it the more I believe
that
model-3 is the correct answer…

 

Can you please help me out here?

 

Thanks,

Offer Baruch.


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Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Jones, Russell
I found the YaST Date screen to set the hardware clock to UTC, but it
didn't seem to have any effect. I wonder if an IPL is required?

Russell Jones 
ANPAC
System Programmer
rjo...@anpac.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard Clapper
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:16 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

Seems to me that we had to learn to set the UTC or Local parameter in
the YaST Timezones screens, depending on how our hardware and/or VM
settings were set, like Mark said.  Just food for thought!

>>> Mark Post  1/30/2009 10:39 AM >>>
>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell" 
wrote: 
> Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time
> zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the
> hour offset?

Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or
z/VM system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the
system about it.  Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to,
and then check that /etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and
that you have /etc/localtime set to the correct time zone.


Mark Post

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FW: SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Jones, Russell
Yep, changes took effect when I ipl'ed. 

Thanks guys, 

Russell Jones 
ANPAC
System Programmer
rjo...@anpac.com

-Original Message-
From: Jones, Russell 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:00 PM
To: 'Linux on 390 Port'
Subject: RE: SUSE 10 hour offset

I found the YaST Date screen to set the hardware clock to UTC, but it
didn't seem to have any effect. I wonder if an IPL is required?

Russell Jones 
ANPAC
System Programmer
rjo...@anpac.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard Clapper
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:16 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

Seems to me that we had to learn to set the UTC or Local parameter in
the YaST Timezones screens, depending on how our hardware and/or VM
settings were set, like Mark said.  Just food for thought!

>>> Mark Post  1/30/2009 10:39 AM >>>
>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell" 
wrote: 
> Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time
> zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the
> hour offset?

Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or
z/VM system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the
system about it.  Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to,
and then check that /etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and
that you have /etc/localtime set to the correct time zone.


Mark Post

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Re: SUSE 10 hour offset

2009-01-30 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 1/30/2009 at  2:00 PM, "Jones, Russell"  wrote: 
> I found the YaST Date screen to set the hardware clock to UTC, but it
> didn't seem to have any effect. I wonder if an IPL is required?

On System z, that doesn't change the hardware clock, it's just intended to tell 
the rest of the system whether the clock is set to UTC or local time.  You just 
need to make sure you have it accurately reflect the real situation.  And, you 
need to make sure your time zone is correctly set for the system.  Does "date 
-R" reflect the correct offset for your time zone?


Mark Post

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Re: AW: Good editor for under the 3270 console interface

2009-01-30 Thread Marc Schoechlin
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 08:41:23AM -0600, Dave Jones wrote:
> I believe IBM is working on a piece of Linux software that will allow ASCII 
> (SSH) logons to z/VM Linux guests that do not have networking available, 
> using the IUCV device driver. to drive the Linux console interface from 
> another Linux guest that does have networking up. I haven't heard anything 
> about when such a capability will be available, though.

thats true - this support is already in the mainline kernel.

See: 
http://kerneltrap.org/index.php?q=mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/12/28/4516104

But I think there is currently no user-space console application available 
on developerworks.
Maybe writing a simple iucv socket client would provide a temporary
solution...

Best regards
Marc Schöchlin
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Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Tom Duerbusch
On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console, I 
get:

Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.com on pts
/0  
You have new mail.  

Module is unknown   


Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
efault (ttyS0). 


linux62 login:  


The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed off 
and I go back to the logon prompt.  

I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't happen on 
all images.  What could cause that?

Thanks

Tom Duerbusch
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Re: Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Mauro Souza
I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's
related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid of
the changes in limits.conf.
In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of
module is missing...

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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch
wrote:

> On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console,
> I get:
>
> Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon 
> pts
> /0
> You have new mail.
>
> Module is unknown
>
>
> Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel
> 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
> efault (ttyS0).
>
>
> linux62 login:
>
>
> The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed
> off and I go back to the logon prompt.
>
> I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't
> happen on all images.  What could cause that?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting
>
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Re: Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Maybe a pam module isn't available for authentication?

Scott

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch
wrote:

> On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console,
> I get:
>
> Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon 
> pts
> /0
> You have new mail.
>
> Module is unknown
>
>
> Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel
> 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
> efault (ttyS0).
>
>
> linux62 login:
>
>
> The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed
> off and I go back to the logon prompt.
>
> I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't
> happen on all images.  What could cause that?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting
>
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Duplicate IP question

2009-01-30 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Under SLES 10 SP 2, if you bring up an image that has the same IP address as a 
currently running system, is linux smart enough not to flood the network with 
packets with duplicate IP addresses?

It does figure something out, saying that it can not register the IP address, 
but does it keep trying and flood the network and/or mess up communications 
with the box that was running initially?

In the old days, when a Windows box came online with a duplicate IP address, 
the entire network would suffer.  

What happens in the Linux world?

Thanks

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Re: Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Specifically - look at /etc/pam.d/login ..  Compare them between working and
nonworking servers...  I'm guessing you'll find a difference in the modules
called OR the modules are missing on the non-working servers..

Scott

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Scott Rohling wrote:

> Maybe a pam module isn't available for authentication?
>
> Scott
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch  > wrote:
>
>> On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console,
>> I get:
>>
>> Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon 
>> pts
>> /0
>> You have new mail.
>>
>> Module is unknown
>>
>>
>> Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel
>> 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
>> efault (ttyS0).
>>
>>
>> linux62 login:
>>
>>
>> The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed
>> off and I go back to the logon prompt.
>>
>> I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't
>> happen on all images.  What could cause that?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom Duerbusch
>> THD Consulting
>>
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Re: Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Tom Duerbusch
You're rightIt is only on the Oracle machines.

And /var/log/messages shows:


n[2636]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_limits.so)
n[2636]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_limits.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32]
n[2636]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_limits.so
n[2636]: Module is unknown


And then looking at /etc/pam.d/login:

linux63:/etc/pam.d # cat login
#%PAM-1.0
auth required   pam_securetty.so
auth includecommon-auth
auth required   pam_nologin.so
account  includecommon-account
password includecommon-password
session  includecommon-session
session  required   pam_lastlog.so nowtmp
session  required   pam_resmgr.so
session  optional   pam_mail.so standard
session  required   /lib/security/pam_limits.so
session  required   pam_limits.so
linux63:/etc/pam.d #

Anyway, that is what was in the Oracle 10g documentation.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting


>>> Mauro Souza  1/30/2009 2:53 PM >>>
I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's
related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid of
the changes in limits.conf.
In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of
module is missing...

Mauro
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch
wrote:

> On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console,
> I get:
>
> Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon 
> pts
> /0
> You have new mail.
>
> Module is unknown
>
>
> Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel
> 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
> efault (ttyS0).
>
>
> linux62 login:
>
>
> The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed
> off and I go back to the logon prompt.
>
> I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't
> happen on all images.  What could cause that?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting
>
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Re: Duplicate IP question

2009-01-30 Thread Jack Woehr

Tom Duerbusch wrote:

What happens in the Linux world?


The network suffers.

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Re: Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Could it be under /lib64/security instead?  I've had that problem before..
If so - update /etc/pam.d/login with the /lib64 -- or create a symlink under
/lib

Scott

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Tom Duerbusch
wrote:

> You're rightIt is only on the Oracle machines.
>
> And /var/log/messages shows:
>
>
> n[2636]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_limits.so)
> n[2636]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_limits.so: wrong ELF class:
> ELFCLASS32]
> n[2636]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_limits.so
> n[2636]: Module is unknown
>
>
> And then looking at /etc/pam.d/login:
>
> linux63:/etc/pam.d # cat login
> #%PAM-1.0
> auth required   pam_securetty.so
> auth includecommon-auth
> auth required   pam_nologin.so
> account  includecommon-account
> password includecommon-password
> session  includecommon-session
> session  required   pam_lastlog.so nowtmp
> session  required   pam_resmgr.so
> session  optional   pam_mail.so standard
> session  required   /lib/security/pam_limits.so
> session  required   pam_limits.so
> linux63:/etc/pam.d #
>
> Anyway, that is what was in the Oracle 10g documentation.
>
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting
>
>
> >>> Mauro Souza  1/30/2009 2:53 PM >>>
> I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's
> related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid of
> the changes in limits.conf.
> In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of
> module is missing...
>
> Mauro
> http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521
> Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch
> wrote:
>
> > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the
> console,
> > I get:
> >
> > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from
> nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon pts
> > /0
> > You have new mail.
> >
> > Module is unknown
> >
> >
> > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel
> > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
> > efault (ttyS0).
> >
> >
> > linux62 login:
> >
> >
> > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed
> > off and I go back to the logon prompt.
> >
> > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't
> > happen on all images.  What could cause that?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom Duerbusch
> > THD Consulting
> >
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Re: Module is unknown when signing on

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Rohling
or - maybe better .. remove the /lib/security and just specify pam_limits.so
and let pam use it's default dir (which might be lib64?  not sure - don't
have a zLinux distro handy at the minute)

Anyway - look for the pam_limits.so and specify it correctly in
/etc/pam.d/login  ...

Scott

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Rohling wrote:

> Could it be under /lib64/security instead?  I've had that problem before..
> If so - update /etc/pam.d/login with the /lib64 -- or create a symlink under
> /lib
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Tom Duerbusch  > wrote:
>
>> You're rightIt is only on the Oracle machines.
>>
>> And /var/log/messages shows:
>>
>>
>> n[2636]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_limits.so)
>> n[2636]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_limits.so: wrong ELF class:
>> ELFCLASS32]
>> n[2636]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_limits.so
>> n[2636]: Module is unknown
>>
>>
>> And then looking at /etc/pam.d/login:
>>
>> linux63:/etc/pam.d # cat login
>> #%PAM-1.0
>> auth required   pam_securetty.so
>> auth includecommon-auth
>> auth required   pam_nologin.so
>> account  includecommon-account
>> password includecommon-password
>> session  includecommon-session
>> session  required   pam_lastlog.so nowtmp
>> session  required   pam_resmgr.so
>> session  optional   pam_mail.so standard
>> session  required   /lib/security/pam_limits.so
>> session  required   pam_limits.so
>> linux63:/etc/pam.d #
>>
>> Anyway, that is what was in the Oracle 10g documentation.
>>
>> Tom Duerbusch
>> THD Consulting
>>
>>
>> >>> Mauro Souza  1/30/2009 2:53 PM >>>
>> I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's
>> related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid
>> of
>> the changes in limits.conf.
>> In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of
>> module is missing...
>>
>> Mauro
>> http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521
>> Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the
>> console,
>> > I get:
>> >
>> > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from
>> nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon pts
>> > /0
>> > You have new mail.
>> >
>> > Module is unknown
>> >
>> >
>> > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel
>> > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d
>> > efault (ttyS0).
>> >
>> >
>> > linux62 login:
>> >
>> >
>> > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem.  I immediately get signed
>> > off and I go back to the logon prompt.
>> >
>> > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2.  And it doesn't
>> > happen on all images.  What could cause that?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Tom Duerbusch
>> > THD Consulting
>> >
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Re: Recompiling MySQL

2009-01-30 Thread Jeff Savit
On 1/29/09 11:51 AM David Boyes Said
> On 1/29/09 10:19 AM, "Kern, Thomas"  wrote:
>
>
> > make[2]: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/mysql-5.0.26/sql'
> > d --debug --verbose sql_yacc.yy
> > make[2]: d: Command not found
>
> Looks like some Solaris dtrace stuff has slipped into the build. You
> can comment out the line in the makefile that runs this.

I think it unlikely that DTrace got slipped into the YACC-related
portion of building mySQL. DTrace has a language called "D" (note case),
and by convention, script files in that language end in ".d", but there
is no command anywhere called "d".

Note that Makefile.am, which is (at 5.1.30 level) contains
  AM_YFLAGS = -d --verbose
which looks similar to the error message Thomas reported.

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Re: Duplicate IP question

2009-01-30 Thread Eric Chevalier

On 1/30/2009 2:38 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote:

In the old days, when a Windows box came online with a duplicate IP address, 
the entire network would suffer.


I don't think that's been true for quite a while now, at least for
Ethernet. When Windows (and Linux on the Intel platform, based on my
observation) brings up a LAN adapter, one of the first packets to go out
on the network is an arp query for the system's own IP address. If the
system gets a response, it knows that some _other_ system on the LAN
already has that IP address.

I don't know what z/Linux does, but I'm assuming something similar takes
place.

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Re: Recompiling MySQL

2009-01-30 Thread Thomas Kern
The real error was my lack of bison. Once that was installed, the
recompile worked.

/Tom Kern

Jeff Savit wrote:
> On 1/29/09 11:51 AM David Boyes Said
>> On 1/29/09 10:19 AM, "Kern, Thomas"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> make[2]: Entering directory
>> `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/mysql-5.0.26/sql'
>>> d --debug --verbose sql_yacc.yy
>>> make[2]: d: Command not found
>> Looks like some Solaris dtrace stuff has slipped into the build. You
>> can comment out the line in the makefile that runs this.
>
> I think it unlikely that DTrace got slipped into the YACC-related
> portion of building mySQL. DTrace has a language called "D" (note case),
> and by convention, script files in that language end in ".d", but there
> is no command anywhere called "d".
>
> Note that Makefile.am, which is (at 5.1.30 level) contains
>   AM_YFLAGS = -d --verbose
> which looks similar to the error message Thomas reported.
>
> regards, Jeff
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