Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?
How is it defined in USER DIRECT ? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kok Leong Chan Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:50 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted? Hi all, I have a DASD at 0405. q dasd details 0405 0405 CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = MV0405, CYLS = 3339 <--- 3339 cylinders CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 55, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- CU DETAILS: SSID = 0085, CUNUM = 0001 According the query it has 3339 cylinders. But it seems that only 156 cylinders are visible to CP. For example, here I try to CPFMTXA on it: cpfmtxa ENTER FORMAT, ALLOCATE, LABEL, OR QUIT: allocate ENTER THE VDEV TO BE PROCESSED OR QUIT: 0405 ENTER THE VOLUME LABEL FOR DISK 0405: mv0405 HCPCCF6209I INVOKING ICKDSF. ICK030E DEFINE INPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "READER" CONSOLE ICK031E DEFINE OUTPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "PRINTER" CONSOLE ICKDSF - CMS/XA/ESA DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME: 12:18: ENTER INPUT COMMAND: CPVOL LIST UNIT(0405) VFY(MV0405) ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0405 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS: PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990 STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9 DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001F3C TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 156 < it sees only 156 cylinders ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE ICK00703I DEVICE IS OPERATED AS A MINIDISK ICK00091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791 ICK091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791 ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = MV0405 ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORD ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 0405 FOLLOWS: ICK03021I 0405 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS: TYPE START ENDTOTAL - ---- PERM 0 155156 <-- Only 156 cylinders ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0 12:18:2801/30/09 ENTER INPUT COMMAND: END This happened after an aborted Red hat installation and this particular DASD was supposed to hold the root filesystem. Is the DASD corrupted? Can it be fixed? With ICKDSF? Any hints is much appreciated. Chan Kok Leong Internet: ch...@sg.ibm.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?
You might a real vs virtual issue. Before the CPFORMAT command try a Q V 405. - Jon Nolting - IBM zITA jrnol...@us.ibm.com 425 281 5750 (cell) Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. - Original Message - From: Bernie Wu [bernard...@ncci.com] Sent: 01/30/2009 08:04 AM EST To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted? How is it defined in USER DIRECT ? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Kok Leong Chan Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:50 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted? Hi all, I have a DASD at 0405. q dasd details 0405 0405 CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = MV0405, CYLS = 3339 <--- 3339 cylinders CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 55, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- CU DETAILS: SSID = 0085, CUNUM = 0001 According the query it has 3339 cylinders. But it seems that only 156 cylinders are visible to CP. For example, here I try to CPFMTXA on it: cpfmtxa ENTER FORMAT, ALLOCATE, LABEL, OR QUIT: allocate ENTER THE VDEV TO BE PROCESSED OR QUIT: 0405 ENTER THE VOLUME LABEL FOR DISK 0405: mv0405 HCPCCF6209I INVOKING ICKDSF. ICK030E DEFINE INPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "READER" CONSOLE ICK031E DEFINE OUTPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "PRINTER" CONSOLE ICKDSF - CMS/XA/ESA DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME: 12:18: ENTER INPUT COMMAND: CPVOL LIST UNIT(0405) VFY(MV0405) ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0405 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS: PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990 STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9 DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001F3C TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 156 < it sees only 156 cylinders ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE ICK00703I DEVICE IS OPERATED AS A MINIDISK ICK00091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791 ICK091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791 ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = MV0405 ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORD ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 0405 FOLLOWS: ICK03021I 0405 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS: TYPE START ENDTOTAL - ---- PERM 0 155156 <-- Only 156 cylinders ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0 12:18:2801/30/09 ENTER INPUT COMMAND: END This happened after an aborted Red hat installation and this particular DASD was supposed to hold the root filesystem. Is the DASD corrupted? Can it be fixed? With ICKDSF? Any hints is much appreciated. Chan Kok Leong Internet: ch...@sg.ibm.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Missing DASD cylinders. DASD corrupted?
Hi, Chan Kok Leong One possible explanation for this apparent discrepancy is the the command "Q DASD DETAILS 0405" returns information about a real DASD volume at real address 0405. The CPFMTXA command returns information on the minidisk belonging to the issuing virtual machine at (virtual) address 0405. For example, if you are logged onto, say, your RedHat installation id, the CPFMTXA command will show you information on the install user id's 0405 minidisk, which appears to be in this case 156 cylinders. It's easy sometimes to get confused between devices' real and virtual addresses, and which commands take real addresses and which expect virtual ones. Hope this helps some. Kok Leong Chan wrote: Hi all, I have a DASD at 0405. q dasd details 0405 0405 CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER = MV0405, CYLS = 3339 <--- 3339 cylinders CACHE DETAILS: CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY -SUBSYSTEM YY Y -N N -DEVICE Y- - YN N DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 55, DDC = -- DUPLEX DETAILS: -- CU DETAILS: SSID = 0085, CUNUM = 0001 According the query it has 3339 cylinders. But it seems that only 156 cylinders are visible to CP. For example, here I try to CPFMTXA on it: cpfmtxa ENTER FORMAT, ALLOCATE, LABEL, OR QUIT: allocate ENTER THE VDEV TO BE PROCESSED OR QUIT: 0405 ENTER THE VOLUME LABEL FOR DISK 0405: mv0405 HCPCCF6209I INVOKING ICKDSF. ICK030E DEFINE INPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "READER" CONSOLE ICK031E DEFINE OUTPUT DEVICE: FN FT FM, "CONSOLE", OR "PRINTER" CONSOLE ICKDSF - CMS/XA/ESA DEVICE SUPPORT FACILITIES 17.0 TIME: 12:18: ENTER INPUT COMMAND: CPVOL LIST UNIT(0405) VFY(MV0405) ICK00700I DEVICE INFORMATION FOR 0405 IS CURRENTLY AS FOLLOWS: PHYSICAL DEVICE = 3390 STORAGE CONTROLLER = 3990 STORAGE CONTROL DESCRIPTOR = E9 DEVICE DESCRIPTOR = 0A ADDITIONAL DEVICE INFORMATION = 48001F3C TRKS/CYL = 15, # PRIMARY CYLS = 156 < it sees only 156 cylinders ICK04000I DEVICE IS IN SIMPLEX STATE ICK00703I DEVICE IS OPERATED AS A MINIDISK ICK00091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791 ICK091I 0405 NED=002107.900.IBM.75.00075791 ICK03090I VOLUME SERIAL = MV0405 ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORDS ICK03024I DEVICE IS CURRENTLY FORMATTED WITHOUT FILLER RECORD ICK03000I CPVOL REPORT FOR 0405 FOLLOWS: ICK03021I 0405 IS FORMATTED FOR VM/XA|ESA MODE CYLINDER ALLOCATION CURRENTLY IS AS FOLLOWS: TYPE START ENDTOTAL - ---- PERM 0 155156 <-- Only 156 cylinders ICK1I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0 12:18:2801/30/09 ENTER INPUT COMMAND: END This happened after an aborted Red hat installation and this particular DASD was supposed to hold the root filesystem. Is the DASD corrupted? Can it be fixed? With ICKDSF? Any hints is much appreciated. Chan Kok Leong Internet: ch...@sg.ibm.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- DJ V/Soft z/VM and mainframe Linux expertise, training, consulting, and software development www.vsoft-software.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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SUSE 10 hour offset
Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the hour offset? Thanks, Russell Jones ANPAC System Programmer rjo...@anpac.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 hour offset
ones, Russell wrote: Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the hour offset? Two choices: * Move the host to Greenwich, England :) * Set your time zone http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Timezone-in-Linux -- Jack J. Woehr# I run for public office from time to time. It's like http://www.well.com/~jax # working out at the gym, you sweat a lot, don't get http://www.softwoehr.com # anywhere, and you fall asleep easily afterwards. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 hour offset
>>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell" wrote: > Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time > zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the > hour offset? Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or z/VM system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the system about it. Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to, and then check that /etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and that you have /etc/localtime set to the correct time zone. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 hour offset
Seems to me that we had to learn to set the UTC or Local parameter in the YaST Timezones screens, depending on how our hardware and/or VM settings were set, like Mark said. Just food for thought! >>> Mark Post 1/30/2009 10:39 AM >>> >>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell" wrote: > Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time > zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the > hour offset? Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or z/VM system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the system about it. Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to, and then check that /etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and that you have /etc/localtime set to the correct time zone. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >>> The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Minidisks and DASD model 3/9
Among all the other thoughts that were brought upit depends on what performance you want. For example, I have some test Linux systems, that are a single 3390-9. All software is on it and data. Just something easy to play with. However it is limited as the volume can only be on a single Raid Array. And every Raid Array can end up bottlenecking on I/O, if there is sufficient I/O. Your other Raid Arrays (I have 8 arrays), may be idle. >From a performance side, Oracle seems to like to manage its own disks, and of course, each disk being on separate Raid Arrays. However, from a management side, putting the disks in a LVM and giving it to Oracle, saves people costs. So, how busy is the Oracle? If you are not pounding it, then use LVM and save people costs. That type of consideration also plays for any application that has large pools of disk space, Oracle, DB2, Samba, NFS, FTP Server, etc. Raid Arrays really eliminated most of the dasd performance tuning we use to do on a volume level. But you still may need to do it on a Raid Array level. You may want to try this experiment: Have Linux format 3 volumes. Two volumes on the same Raid Array, and the third on a different Raid Array. When Linux is formatting all three volumes at the same time, it has a "completion graph" shown. The single volume is formatted much faster then the other two. I know, twice as many I/Os should take longer, plus you are doing head seeks to boot. But it shows there is a difference in performance when you are on an Array that is highly used, vs lightly used. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> עופר ברוך 1/29/2009 6:18 AM >>> Hi all, We just bought some dasd storage specifically for z/VM and for the z/Linux underneath. This is the time to decide what model to use 3/9/27… Originally I thought "the bigger the better". We are using DIRMAINT to manage dasd space and now I am not sure what is the best approach. Here are my thoughts about large models: 1. I am concerned about fragmentation. Using model-3 I could just play around with full disks not worrying about fragmentation (meaning – adding storage to a Linux guest will add a full model-3) 2. I am concerned about IOSQ time. I know z/VM supports static PAV but that is just not comfortable… We don't have Hyperpav yet… 3. Using big minidisks will make cloning difficult, (I must have the same big gaps available for cloning). Here are my thoughts about model-3: 1. Many Many device addresses… Am I missing something? The more I think about it the more I believe that model-3 is the correct answer… Can you please help me out here? Thanks, Offer Baruch. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 hour offset
I found the YaST Date screen to set the hardware clock to UTC, but it didn't seem to have any effect. I wonder if an IPL is required? Russell Jones ANPAC System Programmer rjo...@anpac.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Clapper Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:16 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE 10 hour offset Seems to me that we had to learn to set the UTC or Local parameter in the YaST Timezones screens, depending on how our hardware and/or VM settings were set, like Mark said. Just food for thought! >>> Mark Post 1/30/2009 10:39 AM >>> >>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell" wrote: > Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time > zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the > hour offset? Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or z/VM system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the system about it. Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to, and then check that /etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and that you have /etc/localtime set to the correct time zone. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >>> The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
FW: SUSE 10 hour offset
Yep, changes took effect when I ipl'ed. Thanks guys, Russell Jones ANPAC System Programmer rjo...@anpac.com -Original Message- From: Jones, Russell Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 1:00 PM To: 'Linux on 390 Port' Subject: RE: SUSE 10 hour offset I found the YaST Date screen to set the hardware clock to UTC, but it didn't seem to have any effect. I wonder if an IPL is required? Russell Jones ANPAC System Programmer rjo...@anpac.com -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Clapper Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:16 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE 10 hour offset Seems to me that we had to learn to set the UTC or Local parameter in the YaST Timezones screens, depending on how our hardware and/or VM settings were set, like Mark said. Just food for thought! >>> Mark Post 1/30/2009 10:39 AM >>> >>> On 1/30/2009 at 12:26 PM, "Jones, Russell" wrote: > Date command on my SUSE 10 system is showing the correct date, time > zone, and minute, but the hour is off by 6 hours. How do I change the > hour offset? Sounds like a mismatch between what time zone the hardware clock (or z/VM system clock if running on z/VM) is in, and what you told the system about it. Make sure you know what the hardware clock is set to, and then check that /etc/sysconfig/clock reflects that correctly, and that you have /etc/localtime set to the correct time zone. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >>> The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 hour offset
>>> On 1/30/2009 at 2:00 PM, "Jones, Russell" wrote: > I found the YaST Date screen to set the hardware clock to UTC, but it > didn't seem to have any effect. I wonder if an IPL is required? On System z, that doesn't change the hardware clock, it's just intended to tell the rest of the system whether the clock is set to UTC or local time. You just need to make sure you have it accurately reflect the real situation. And, you need to make sure your time zone is correctly set for the system. Does "date -R" reflect the correct offset for your time zone? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: AW: Good editor for under the 3270 console interface
Hi, On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 08:41:23AM -0600, Dave Jones wrote: > I believe IBM is working on a piece of Linux software that will allow ASCII > (SSH) logons to z/VM Linux guests that do not have networking available, > using the IUCV device driver. to drive the Linux console interface from > another Linux guest that does have networking up. I haven't heard anything > about when such a capability will be available, though. thats true - this support is already in the mainline kernel. See: http://kerneltrap.org/index.php?q=mailarchive/git-commits-head/2008/12/28/4516104 But I think there is currently no user-space console application available on developerworks. Maybe writing a simple iucv socket client would provide a temporary solution... Best regards Marc Schöchlin -- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Module is unknown when signing on
On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console, I get: Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.com on pts /0 You have new mail. Module is unknown Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel 2.6.16.60-0.21-d efault (ttyS0). linux62 login: The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed off and I go back to the logon prompt. I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't happen on all images. What could cause that? Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Module is unknown when signing on
I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid of the changes in limits.conf. In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of module is missing... Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console, > I get: > > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon > pts > /0 > You have new mail. > > Module is unknown > > > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d > efault (ttyS0). > > > linux62 login: > > > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed > off and I go back to the logon prompt. > > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't > happen on all images. What could cause that? > > Thanks > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Module is unknown when signing on
Maybe a pam module isn't available for authentication? Scott On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console, > I get: > > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon > pts > /0 > You have new mail. > > Module is unknown > > > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d > efault (ttyS0). > > > linux62 login: > > > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed > off and I go back to the logon prompt. > > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't > happen on all images. What could cause that? > > Thanks > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Duplicate IP question
Under SLES 10 SP 2, if you bring up an image that has the same IP address as a currently running system, is linux smart enough not to flood the network with packets with duplicate IP addresses? It does figure something out, saying that it can not register the IP address, but does it keep trying and flood the network and/or mess up communications with the box that was running initially? In the old days, when a Windows box came online with a duplicate IP address, the entire network would suffer. What happens in the Linux world? Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Module is unknown when signing on
Specifically - look at /etc/pam.d/login .. Compare them between working and nonworking servers... I'm guessing you'll find a difference in the modules called OR the modules are missing on the non-working servers.. Scott On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: > Maybe a pam module isn't available for authentication? > > Scott > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch > wrote: > >> On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console, >> I get: >> >> Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon >> pts >> /0 >> You have new mail. >> >> Module is unknown >> >> >> Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel >> 2.6.16.60-0.21-d >> efault (ttyS0). >> >> >> linux62 login: >> >> >> The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed >> off and I go back to the logon prompt. >> >> I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't >> happen on all images. What could cause that? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom Duerbusch >> THD Consulting >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> > > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Module is unknown when signing on
You're rightIt is only on the Oracle machines. And /var/log/messages shows: n[2636]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_limits.so) n[2636]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_limits.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32] n[2636]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_limits.so n[2636]: Module is unknown And then looking at /etc/pam.d/login: linux63:/etc/pam.d # cat login #%PAM-1.0 auth required pam_securetty.so auth includecommon-auth auth required pam_nologin.so account includecommon-account password includecommon-password session includecommon-session session required pam_lastlog.so nowtmp session required pam_resmgr.so session optional pam_mail.so standard session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so session required pam_limits.so linux63:/etc/pam.d # Anyway, that is what was in the Oracle 10g documentation. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> Mauro Souza 1/30/2009 2:53 PM >>> I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid of the changes in limits.conf. In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of module is missing... Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the console, > I get: > > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon > pts > /0 > You have new mail. > > Module is unknown > > > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d > efault (ttyS0). > > > linux62 login: > > > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed > off and I go back to the logon prompt. > > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't > happen on all images. What could cause that? > > Thanks > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Duplicate IP question
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Re: Module is unknown when signing on
Could it be under /lib64/security instead? I've had that problem before.. If so - update /etc/pam.d/login with the /lib64 -- or create a symlink under /lib Scott On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > You're rightIt is only on the Oracle machines. > > And /var/log/messages shows: > > > n[2636]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_limits.so) > n[2636]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_limits.so: wrong ELF class: > ELFCLASS32] > n[2636]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_limits.so > n[2636]: Module is unknown > > > And then looking at /etc/pam.d/login: > > linux63:/etc/pam.d # cat login > #%PAM-1.0 > auth required pam_securetty.so > auth includecommon-auth > auth required pam_nologin.so > account includecommon-account > password includecommon-password > session includecommon-session > session required pam_lastlog.so nowtmp > session required pam_resmgr.so > session optional pam_mail.so standard > session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so > session required pam_limits.so > linux63:/etc/pam.d # > > Anyway, that is what was in the Oracle 10g documentation. > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > > >>> Mauro Souza 1/30/2009 2:53 PM >>> > I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's > related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid of > the changes in limits.conf. > In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of > module is missing... > > Mauro > http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 > Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch > wrote: > > > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the > console, > > I get: > > > > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from > nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon pts > > /0 > > You have new mail. > > > > Module is unknown > > > > > > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel > > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d > > efault (ttyS0). > > > > > > linux62 login: > > > > > > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed > > off and I go back to the logon prompt. > > > > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't > > happen on all images. What could cause that? > > > > Thanks > > > > Tom Duerbusch > > THD Consulting > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Module is unknown when signing on
or - maybe better .. remove the /lib/security and just specify pam_limits.so and let pam use it's default dir (which might be lib64? not sure - don't have a zLinux distro handy at the minute) Anyway - look for the pam_limits.so and specify it correctly in /etc/pam.d/login ... Scott On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Scott Rohling wrote: > Could it be under /lib64/security instead? I've had that problem before.. > If so - update /etc/pam.d/login with the /lib64 -- or create a symlink under > /lib > > Scott > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Tom Duerbusch > wrote: > >> You're rightIt is only on the Oracle machines. >> >> And /var/log/messages shows: >> >> >> n[2636]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_limits.so) >> n[2636]: PAM [error: /lib/security/pam_limits.so: wrong ELF class: >> ELFCLASS32] >> n[2636]: PAM adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_limits.so >> n[2636]: Module is unknown >> >> >> And then looking at /etc/pam.d/login: >> >> linux63:/etc/pam.d # cat login >> #%PAM-1.0 >> auth required pam_securetty.so >> auth includecommon-auth >> auth required pam_nologin.so >> account includecommon-account >> password includecommon-password >> session includecommon-session >> session required pam_lastlog.so nowtmp >> session required pam_resmgr.so >> session optional pam_mail.so standard >> session required /lib/security/pam_limits.so >> session required pam_limits.so >> linux63:/etc/pam.d # >> >> Anyway, that is what was in the Oracle 10g documentation. >> >> Tom Duerbusch >> THD Consulting >> >> >> >>> Mauro Souza 1/30/2009 2:53 PM >>> >> I had this issue after tunning a system to install Oracle. I believe it's >> related to PAM modules. If you're able to logon via SSH, you can get rid >> of >> the changes in limits.conf. >> In /var/log/messages maybe there's some messages telling you what kind of >> module is missing... >> >> Mauro >> http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 >> Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Tom Duerbusch >> wrote: >> >> > On some of my images (SLES 10 SP 2), when I try to logon from the >> console, >> > I get: >> > >> > Last login: Wed Jan 21 16:20:38 CST 2009 from >> nss-lt-0001.stlouiscity.comon pts >> > /0 >> > You have new mail. >> > >> > Module is unknown >> > >> > >> > Welcome to SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP2 (s390x) - Kernel >> > 2.6.16.60-0.21-d >> > efault (ttyS0). >> > >> > >> > linux62 login: >> > >> > >> > The "Module is unknown" seems to be a problem. I immediately get signed >> > off and I go back to the logon prompt. >> > >> > I haven't applied any maintenance other then the SP2. And it doesn't >> > happen on all images. What could cause that? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Tom Duerbusch >> > THD Consulting >> > >> > -- >> > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 >> or >> > visit >> > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> > >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> > > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Recompiling MySQL
On 1/29/09 11:51 AM David Boyes Said > On 1/29/09 10:19 AM, "Kern, Thomas" wrote: > > > > make[2]: Entering directory > `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/mysql-5.0.26/sql' > > d --debug --verbose sql_yacc.yy > > make[2]: d: Command not found > > Looks like some Solaris dtrace stuff has slipped into the build. You > can comment out the line in the makefile that runs this. I think it unlikely that DTrace got slipped into the YACC-related portion of building mySQL. DTrace has a language called "D" (note case), and by convention, script files in that language end in ".d", but there is no command anywhere called "d". Note that Makefile.am, which is (at 5.1.30 level) contains AM_YFLAGS = -d --verbose which looks similar to the error message Thomas reported. regards, Jeff -- Jeff Savit Principal Field Technologist Sun Microsystems, Inc.Phone: 732-537-3451 (x63451) 2398 E Camelback DriveEmail: jeff.sa...@sun.com Phoenix, AZ 85016http://blogs.sun.com/jsavit/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Duplicate IP question
On 1/30/2009 2:38 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: In the old days, when a Windows box came online with a duplicate IP address, the entire network would suffer. I don't think that's been true for quite a while now, at least for Ethernet. When Windows (and Linux on the Intel platform, based on my observation) brings up a LAN adapter, one of the first packets to go out on the network is an arp query for the system's own IP address. If the system gets a response, it knows that some _other_ system on the LAN already has that IP address. I don't know what z/Linux does, but I'm assuming something similar takes place. Eric -- Eric Chevalier E-mail: et...@tulsagrammer.com Web: www.tulsagrammer.com Is that call really worth your child's life? HANG UP AND DRIVE! -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Recompiling MySQL
The real error was my lack of bison. Once that was installed, the recompile worked. /Tom Kern Jeff Savit wrote: > On 1/29/09 11:51 AM David Boyes Said >> On 1/29/09 10:19 AM, "Kern, Thomas" wrote: >> >> >>> make[2]: Entering directory >> `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/mysql-5.0.26/sql' >>> d --debug --verbose sql_yacc.yy >>> make[2]: d: Command not found >> Looks like some Solaris dtrace stuff has slipped into the build. You >> can comment out the line in the makefile that runs this. > > I think it unlikely that DTrace got slipped into the YACC-related > portion of building mySQL. DTrace has a language called "D" (note case), > and by convention, script files in that language end in ".d", but there > is no command anywhere called "d". > > Note that Makefile.am, which is (at 5.1.30 level) contains > AM_YFLAGS = -d --verbose > which looks similar to the error message Thomas reported. > > regards, Jeff > > -- > Jeff Savit > Principal Field Technologist > Sun Microsystems, Inc.Phone: 732-537-3451 (x63451) > 2398 E Camelback DriveEmail: jeff.sa...@sun.com > Phoenix, AZ 85016http://blogs.sun.com/jsavit/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390