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2013-11-26 Thread Gabe Goldberg

Interesting (long) recap...

http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/half-an-operating-system-the-triumph-and-tragedy-of-os2/

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Thoughts on multiple certificates for Apache host

2013-11-26 Thread Martha McConaghy
Certs for securing connections have always been a "black art" to me.  So, I
have a feeling that a few of you on this list will probably have some good
ideas for us.

We run a lot of Apache web servers on zLinux (SLES 11 mainly).  Several are
"general use" web servers, i.e. we have a lot of little web sites running as
vhosts on one virtual server.  They all share the same IP address and Apache
sorts out "who is who" on the incoming transaction based on the URL requested.

Now, from what little I understand of certs, there can be only 1 per IP
address.  So, if we get cert for the general use web server, it will apply to
all vhosts on that server.  If we want individual certs for each vhost, we
would have to supply an IP/NIC for each.  Do I have that correct?  If so,
any ideas on how to get around that?

For example, could we host multiple IPs from the same NIC if the server is
on a layer 2 vswitch?  (Will it do trunking, basically?)  Is there an easier
way to approach this?

Martha

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Thoughts on multiple certificates for Apache host

2013-11-26 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013, Martha McConaghy wrote:

> Now, from what little I understand of certs, there can be only 1 per IP
> address.

formerly true, but not so any more for quite some time

see:
  http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3546.txt
for the standard , called SNI -- Server Name Indication
(section 3.1 and following).  The RFC dates from June 2003 but
it took a few years to propigate through the system ;)

> So, if we get cert for the general use web server, it will apply to
> all vhosts on that server.  If we want individual certs for each vhost, we
> would have to supply an IP/NIC for each.  Do I have that correct?  If so,
> any ideas on how to get around that?

As I say, SNI gets around this

http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/apache-secure-multiple-sites-sni.htm

in browsers that know how to use it.  Any recent browser will;
older browsers should be retired anyway as they almost
certainly have unpatched security issues

http://www.digicert.com/ssl-support/apache-multiple-ssl-certificates-using-sni.htm

[ No particular reason to prefer their doco, but a search on
Google put it forth first ]

We have done it with the StartCom SSL certs as well in the
past.  I recall editting the file from mod_ssl in
/etc/httpd/conf.d/ , rather than the vhost specification .conf
file , but this is local workflow related

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Re: Thoughts on multiple certificates for Apache host

2013-11-26 Thread Richard Troth
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Martha McConaghy  wrote:
> Certs for securing connections have always been a "black art" to me.  So, I
> have a feeling that a few of you on this list will probably have some good
> ideas for us.

Black art ... fair assessment. But rest easy; just pay no attention to
that man behind the curtain.

> We run a lot of Apache web servers on zLinux (SLES 11 mainly).  Several are
> "general use" web servers, i.e. we have a lot of little web sites running as
> vhosts on one virtual server.  They all share the same IP address and Apache
> sorts out "who is who" on the incoming transaction based on the URL requested.

Right. Virtual hosting.

> Now, from what little I understand of certs, there can be only 1 per IP
> address.  So, if we get cert for the general use web server, it will apply to
> all vhosts on that server.  If we want individual certs for each vhost, we
> would have to supply an IP/NIC for each.  Do I have that correct?  If so,
> any ideas on how to get around that?

Sad, but true.
However, if the virtual hosts can all fit under one wildcard, you may
get some relief. You'd still have only one certificate, but you would
not lose your virual hosting.
See Apache's wiki page about this ...

http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/NameBasedSSLVHosts

> For example, could we host multiple IPs from the same NIC if the server is
> on a layer 2 vswitch?  (Will it do trunking, basically?)  Is there an easier
> way to approach this?

Works on my Layer 2 VSwitch.

> Martha
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