Re: Shared Kernel on Sles10

2007-09-26 Thread Max Belardi

I'm trying to do manual configuration.
The problem now seems to be related to System Map.
Using value provided by IBM site during the DEFSYS command ( DEFSYS
LXSHR 0-FF EW 100-2FF SR 300-4FF EW MINSIZE=64M  seems are related to
2.4 kernel system map.
Anybody know the new value for 2.6 kernel?
Thanks
Max


Mark Post ha scritto:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at  3:40 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Max


Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks Mark
if I point to this site... I can get informations here:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/linux/linuxnss.html

The first paragraph show...
The VM Share Kernel Support procedure documented on this page was
created a few years ago for use with an older Linux Kernel. So, if you
are using Linux Kernel 2.6, it would be best NOT to use this procedure,
and instead download a new patch of kernel NSS support from the
following link. 

I point to the new link
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/whatsnew.html

...and there are some documentation about device drivers and commands
In chapter 13 there is: Shared kernel support

Setting up a Linux NSS means performs this steps:
1. Boot Linux.
2. Insert savesys=nssname into the kernel parameter file used by your
boot configuration, where nssname is the name you want to assign to
the NSS. The name can be 1-8 characters long and must consist of
alphabetic and numeric characters. Be sure not to assign a name that
matches any of the device numbers used at your installation.
3. Issue a zipl command to write the modified configuration to the boot
device.
4. Close down Linux.
5. Issue an IPL command to boot Linux from the device that holds the
Linux kernel. During the IPL process, the NSS is created and Linux is
actually booted from the NSS.

This procedure seems that is not working at this time
What's wrong???
Procedure??? (automatic NSS generation is not supported)
Kernel??? (currently is 2.6.16.53)



As I said in my other reply, what's wrong is that the patch referenced has 
not (yet) been incorporated in the kernel that ships with SLES.  The developerWorks web 
site is intended for people that intend to build their own kernel from source.  That 
means, distribution providers, or people who are doing it for educational or other 
purposes.

In your case, you should go with the manual procedure that gives all the z/VM 
commands to use.  Understand, though, that the resulting kernel-in-NSS is not 
(yet) supported by Novell.  If/when we ship that functionality, it will be 
supported.  Until then, you're on your own unless you are willing to negotiate 
a custom support arrangement.  (Personally I don't think it will be any 
problematic than booting from a kernel on disk, but commercial support models 
being what they are, that scenario doesn't fall under the supported category 
yet.)

One thing to keep in mind is that putting your kernel into an NSS is only going 
to save you somewhere around 1-4MB (at most).  Unless you have a _lot_ of z/VM 
guests, that isn't going to buy you much.  You're much better off concentrating 
on implementing CMM (phase 1), or xip2fs.  You'll get a lot more return for 
your efforts there.


Mark Post

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Shared Kernel on Sles10

2007-09-25 Thread Max Belardi

Guys,
   I'm trying to set up a NSS for Shared kernel support. My
distribution is a SLES10 with SP1. The CONFIG_SHARED_KERNEL option seems
to be already specified in this kernel level 2.6.16.46
If I try to IPL the first instance with savesys parameter... I'm not
able to see any NSS creation in VM (QUERY NSS doesn't show nss i'm
creating).
Does anyvody know if i need to take other actions befor IPLing a Linux
with savesys parameter???

This parameter is pecified on zipl.conf:
[nssipl]
   image = /boot/image
   target = /boot/zipl
   ramdisk = /boot/initrd,0x100
   parameters = savesys=LNX0NSS root=/dev/dasdb1 dasd=101,201
TERM=dumb 3

Thanks
Max

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Re: Shared Kernel on Sles10

2007-09-25 Thread Max Belardi

Sure...
I've set all privileges (E included)!


Dave Jones ha scritto:

Hi, Max.

There should be some CP error or warning messages assoicated with you
attempting to save the Linux kernel in an NSS. Does your virtual machine
where you are attempting to do this have the correct CP privilege
classes? I believe that to save an NSS, you need Class E privileges.

Max Belardi wrote:

Guys,
   I'm trying to set up a NSS for Shared kernel support. My
distribution is a SLES10 with SP1. The CONFIG_SHARED_KERNEL option seems
to be already specified in this kernel level 2.6.16.46
If I try to IPL the first instance with savesys parameter... I'm not
able to see any NSS creation in VM (QUERY NSS doesn't show nss i'm
creating).
Does anyvody know if i need to take other actions befor IPLing a Linux
with savesys parameter???

This parameter is pecified on zipl.conf:
[nssipl]
   image = /boot/image
   target = /boot/zipl
   ramdisk = /boot/initrd,0x100
   parameters = savesys=LNX0NSS root=/dev/dasdb1 dasd=101,201
TERM=dumb 3

Thanks
Max

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Re: Shared Kernel on Sles10

2007-09-25 Thread Max Belardi

Thanks Mark
if I point to this site... I can get informations here:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/linux/linuxnss.html

The first paragraph show...
The VM Share Kernel Support procedure documented on this page was
created a few years ago for use with an older Linux Kernel. So, if you
are using Linux Kernel 2.6, it would be best NOT to use this procedure,
and instead download a new patch of kernel NSS support from the
following link. 

I point to the new link
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/whatsnew.html

...and there are some documentation about device drivers and commands
In chapter 13 there is: Shared kernel support

Setting up a Linux NSS means performs this steps:
1. Boot Linux.
2. Insert savesys=nssname into the kernel parameter file used by your
boot configuration, where nssname is the name you want to assign to
the NSS. The name can be 1-8 characters long and must consist of
alphabetic and numeric characters. Be sure not to assign a name that
matches any of the device numbers used at your installation.
3. Issue a zipl command to write the modified configuration to the boot
device.
4. Close down Linux.
5. Issue an IPL command to boot Linux from the device that holds the
Linux kernel. During the IPL process, the NSS is created and Linux is
actually booted from the NSS.

This procedure seems that is not working at this time
What's wrong???
Procedure??? (automatic NSS generation is not supported)
Kernel??? (currently is 2.6.16.53)



Mark Post ha scritto:

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 12:22 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Max


Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Guys,
I'm trying to set up a NSS for Shared kernel support. My
distribution is a SLES10 with SP1. The CONFIG_SHARED_KERNEL option seems
to be already specified in this kernel level 2.6.16.46
If I try to IPL the first instance with savesys parameter... I'm not
able to see any NSS creation in VM (QUERY NSS doesn't show nss i'm
creating).
Does anyvody know if i need to take other actions befor IPLing a Linux
with savesys parameter???



The automatic creation of the NSS via the savesys= kernel parm is not part of 
SLES10, even with SP1.  I'm hoping to get that included with SP2.  If you want 
to create an NSS, you'll need to do it manually.  There is doc (somewhere) on 
IBM's web site.  I'm pretty sure that it's pointed to by the 
http://linuxvm.org/Info/l390link.html page.


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Re: Shared Kernel on Sles10

2007-09-25 Thread Max Belardi
   
..done  

System Boot Control: The system has been set 
up
System Boot Control: Running 
/etc/init.d/boot.local
kernel.hz_timer = 
0
appldata info: os-ops 
registeredé  
   

   MORE...   
VMLINUX6 
appldata info: mem-ops 
registeredé 
appldata info: net_sum-ops 
registeredé 
appldata info: Monitoring os data enabled, DIAG 0xDC 
started.  
appldata info: Monitoring mem data enabled, DIAG 0xDC 
started. 
appldata info: Monitoring net_sum data enabled, DIAG 0xDC 
started. 
appldata info: Monitoring timer 
started.   
appldata info: Monitoring CPU interval set to 1 
milliseconds.  
Creating //rmfpms/.rmfpms 
...  
mkdir: cannot create directory ù//rmfpms/.rmfpms': No such file or 
directory   
Performance gatherer backends not 
started  
Creating //rmfpms/.rmfpms 
...  
mkdir: cannot create directory ù//rmfpms/.rmfpms': No such file or 
directory   
dasd_proc: /proc/dasd/statictics: 'set 
on' 
dasd_proc: Statistics switched 
on  
Starting performance gatherer backends 
... 
ls: //rmfpms/bin//*gat: No such file or 
directory  
touch: cannot touch ù//rmfpms/.rmfpms/.rmfpms_started': No such file or 
director
y   

/root/rmfpms/bin/rmfpms: line 59: //rmfpms/bin//gpmddsrv: No such file 
or direct
ory 

doneé   

¬1A..done INIT: Entering runlevel: 
3   
   

   MORE...   
VMLINUX6 


Dave Jones ha scritto:

Hi, Max.

I am sure we could be of more help to you in getting this problem fixed
if we had a better idea of what the problem really is. It appears that
your virtual machine has enough CP privileges (maybe too many!). There
should be some CP messages on the Linux 3270 console when you attempt to
do the save. Could you show us the console output when you do the actual
IPL 150 (say) IPL command, step 5? That might give us a better idea of
what is going wrong for you.

Max Belardi wrote:

Thanks Mark
if I point to this site... I can get informations here:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/linux/linuxnss.html

The first paragraph show...
The VM Share Kernel Support procedure documented on this page was
created a few years ago for use with an older Linux Kernel. So, if you
are using Linux Kernel 2.6, it would be best NOT to use this procedure,
and instead download a new patch of kernel NSS support from the
following link. 

I point to the new link
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/whatsnew.html

...and there are some documentation about device drivers and 
commands

In chapter 13 there is: Shared kernel support

Setting up a Linux NSS means performs this steps:
1. Boot Linux.
2. Insert savesys=nssname into the kernel parameter file used by your
boot configuration, where nssname is the name you want to assign to
the NSS. The name can be 1-8 characters long and must consist of
alphabetic and numeric characters. Be sure not to assign a name that
matches any of the device numbers used at your installation.
3. Issue a zipl command to write the modified configuration to the boot
device.
4. Close down Linux.
5. Issue an IPL command to boot Linux from the device that holds the
Linux kernel. During the IPL process, the NSS is created and Linux is
actually booted from the NSS.

This procedure seems that is not working at this time
What's wrong???
Procedure??? (automatic NSS generation is not supported)
Kernel??? (currently is 2.6.16.53)



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Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z

2007-09-06 Thread Max Belardi

Mark Post ha scritto:

On Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at  6:05 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],


Massimiliano Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Guys,
does anybody know if Fedora-DS is included on RedHat for Linux
distribution? Anybody tryied to compile it from source to System z platform?



What is it?  If the package name contains the string fed then I didn't see it 
on the RHEL5 DVD.


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Is the Directory Server...
http://directory.fedoraproject.org/

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