Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-12 Thread Don Mulvey
Hi Mark,

No development system here.  I am running Linux in a VM to work on volume
mgt code. I need to verify evms user interface tools with device mapper on
various platforms and was looking for any gotchas before proceeding on 390.

-Don


-Original Message-
Date:Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:34:10 -0500
From:"Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

Don,

The only warning I can think of is that you're going to be running a
"development" kernel.  Unless you're planning on being part of the
development process, providing feedback to the kernel developers, etc., you
don't want to do that.  If that _is_ your intent, then go for it.

Mark Post



Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-11 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:34, you wrote:
> n Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:34:10AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
> > The only warning I can think of is that you're going to be running a
> > "development" kernel.  Unless you're planning on being part of the
> > development process, providing feedback to the kernel developers, etc.,
> > you don't want to do that.  If that _is_ your intent, then go for it.
>
> Conversely, if the 2.5 series has some new feature you find useful that
> isn't present in 2.4, it makes plenty of sense to run it.  I haven't
> kept up with 2.5, but if we can set the wayback machine
>
> It was a really long time between the 1.0 release and the 1.2 release,
> and somewhere in there 1.1 got loadable kernel modules.  So I ran
> 1.1.whatever in production for a very long time, because I was typically
> running on very memory constrained systems and being able to build a
> minimal kernel and load and unload device drivers at whim was very
> useful to me.

There is, though, a considerable difference between whatever you were doing
back then and what someone might be doing on a s/390 or zSeries machine.

It comes down to, if it's for educational purposes go ahead (but maybe on a
PC). If it's production, only if there's not a better way.

Same when 2.6 first comes out. I personally had problems with 2.2.0 and 2.4.0,
with hardware that worked before didn't work now.

AFAIK it still doesn't work in 2.4, last time there was some dicussion it went
like this:

device driver author <- it's his fault -> ext2 author




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Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-11 Thread Post, Mark K
I personally would not recommend that someone else run a development kernel
in production, unless they really understand just what that means.  The
potential for system problems is very much higher which may (or may not)
offset the added functionality.  Before going that route, try it out as
thoroughly as possible in a test image before putting workload of any value
on the system.  Make sure you have good backups.  :)

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Adam Thornton [mailto:athornton@;sinenomine.net]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?


n Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:34:10AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
> The only warning I can think of is that you're going to be running a
> "development" kernel.  Unless you're planning on being part of the
> development process, providing feedback to the kernel developers, etc.,
you
> don't want to do that.  If that _is_ your intent, then go for it.

Conversely, if the 2.5 series has some new feature you find useful that
isn't present in 2.4, it makes plenty of sense to run it.  I haven't
kept up with 2.5, but if we can set the wayback machine

It was a really long time between the 1.0 release and the 1.2 release,
and somewhere in there 1.1 got loadable kernel modules.  So I ran
1.1.whatever in production for a very long time, because I was typically
running on very memory constrained systems and being able to build a
minimal kernel and load and unload device drivers at whim was very
useful to me.

Adam



Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-11 Thread Adam Thornton
n Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:34:10AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:
> The only warning I can think of is that you're going to be running a
> "development" kernel.  Unless you're planning on being part of the
> development process, providing feedback to the kernel developers, etc., you
> don't want to do that.  If that _is_ your intent, then go for it.

Conversely, if the 2.5 series has some new feature you find useful that
isn't present in 2.4, it makes plenty of sense to run it.  I haven't
kept up with 2.5, but if we can set the wayback machine

It was a really long time between the 1.0 release and the 1.2 release,
and somewhere in there 1.1 got loadable kernel modules.  So I ran
1.1.whatever in production for a very long time, because I was typically
running on very memory constrained systems and being able to build a
minimal kernel and load and unload device drivers at whim was very
useful to me.

Adam



Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-11 Thread Post, Mark K
Don,

The only warning I can think of is that you're going to be running a
"development" kernel.  Unless you're planning on being part of the
development process, providing feedback to the kernel developers, etc., you
don't want to do that.  If that _is_ your intent, then go for it.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Don Mulvey [mailto:dlmulvey@;us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?


Hi,  I was wondering if any of you were running a 2.5 kernel.   I haven't
tried it yet myself and am about to do so.  Any warnings/suggestions would
be appreciated.   Thanks,  Don



Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-11 Thread Don Mulvey
Hi,  I was wondering if any of you were running a 2.5 kernel.   I haven't
tried it yet myself and am about to do so.  Any warnings/suggestions would
be appreciated.   Thanks,  Don