Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Gary Detro
I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

My process will create a single clone without problem.

vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
chccwdev -e 20f
mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
then change ipaddress and hostname

While that program is running we start another clone which does the
following

vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
chcwdev -e 20e
mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

and then the second one fails:

sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
found.

Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
be online that are identical to start with?


Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
Linking the same disk r/w twice will likely destroy the disk.
Link it RR instead.  

Marcy 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:03 AM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: [LINUX-390] Cloning question for zLinux

I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

My process will create a single clone without problem.

vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
chccwdev -e 20f
mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
then change ipaddress and hostname

While that program is running we start another clone which does the
following

vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
chcwdev -e 20e
mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

and then the second one fails:

sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
found.

Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
be online that are identical to start with?


Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Richard Troth
Gary --

There is nothing in the kernel that cares if two disks have identical
content unless you mount by label, which you did not.  (And I am
counting PV stamps as labels.)

I gotta wonder if your second 'vmcp link' acquired a RO link instead
of a RW link?  You were right to use the mr token, but what that
tells VM is to give me a read link if someone else has a write link.
 Does another virtual machine have the disk in RW mode?  (Forgive me
if you know this.  We are a mixture on this list.)


-- R;   
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Velocity Software
http://www.velocitysoftware.com/








On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 13:02, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Richard Troth
Oh ... yeah ... she's right (of course).

Did userid change from the first to the second?  Guessing it did,
but if it did not ... that would explain the problem.

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 13:18, Marcy Cortes
marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
 Linking the same disk r/w twice will likely destroy the disk.
 Link it RR instead.

 Marcy

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gary 
 Detro
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:03 AM
 To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Subject: [LINUX-390] Cloning question for zLinux

 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Gary Detro
Sorry I didn't make it clear   the 20f and 20e are not he same disk.

link linux73 201 20f mr

link linux77 201 20e mr


Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






From:
Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
To:
LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:
03/09/2011 12:20 PM
Subject:
Re: Cloning question for zLinux
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Linking the same disk r/w twice will likely destroy the disk.
Link it RR instead.

Marcy

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gary
Detro
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:03 AM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: [LINUX-390] Cloning question for zLinux

I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

My process will create a single clone without problem.

vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
chccwdev -e 20f
mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
then change ipaddress and hostname

While that program is running we start another clone which does the
following

vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
chcwdev -e 20e
mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

and then the second one fails:

sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
found.

Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
be online that are identical to start with?


Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Christian Paro
What do you get from:

lsdasd
file -s /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.020e
file -s /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.020e-part1

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 Sorry I didn't make it clear   the 20f and 20e are not he same disk.

 link linux73 201 20f mr

 link linux77 201 20e mr


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






 From:
 Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
 To:
 LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Date:
 03/09/2011 12:20 PM
 Subject:
 Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 Sent by:
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 Linking the same disk r/w twice will likely destroy the disk.
 Link it RR instead.

 Marcy

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gary
 Detro
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:03 AM
 To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Subject: [LINUX-390] Cloning question for zLinux

 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM volumes
- no problem.

So - does that file exist?(the config for the 4220) ..if not, why
not?Need more info about your clones..

Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ?   Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Richard Troth
I don't know what cloning process you're using, but if it is a shell
script and if it uses hard-coded names for its work files ... just a
guess.

-- R;   
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On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 13:02, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220 not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Gary Detro
yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...

but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty



Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
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From:
Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
To:
LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:
03/09/2011 12:38 PM
Subject:
Re: Cloning question for zLinux
Sent by:
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No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
volumes
- no problem.

So - does that file exist?(the config for the 4220) ..if not, why
not?Need more info about your clones..

Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ?   Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
Odd..   it must have a empty filesystem on it or it wouldn't mount..DIRM
CLONEDISK is doing a physical copy.   Unless the CLONEDISK failed (and there
was a previous empty filesystem on the disk), I'm not sure why you're seeing
an empty directory.   Maybe show us a 'df -h' command as well as an
'lsdasd'?

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...

 but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty



 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






 From:
 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
 To:
 LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Date:
 03/09/2011 12:38 PM
 Subject:
 Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 Sent by:
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 No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
 volumes
 - no problem.

 So - does that file exist?(the config for the 4220) ..if not, why
 not?Need more info about your clones..

 Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ?   Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

 Scott Rohling

 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
 clonedisk
  command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)
 
  This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from
 
  My process will create a single clone without problem.
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
  chccwdev -e 20f
  mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
  then change ipaddress and hostname
 
  While that program is running we start another clone which does the
  following
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
  chcwdev -e 20e
  mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2
 
  and then the second one fails:
 
  sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
 not
  found.
 
  Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
  be online that are identical to start with?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Gary L. Detro
 
  Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
  Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
  Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
  Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com
 
 
 
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Marcy Cortes
None of the commands you've given us here would add anything onto /dasdc
How was it supposed to have gotten populated with files?


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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Detro
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:48 AM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Cloning question for zLinux

yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...

but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty



Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
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From:
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To:
LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:
03/09/2011 12:38 PM
Subject:
Re: Cloning question for zLinux
Sent by:
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No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
volumes
- no problem.

So - does that file exist?(the config for the 4220) ..if not, why
not?Need more info about your clones..

Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ?   Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
clonedisk
 command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)

 This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from

 My process will create a single clone without problem.

 vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
 chccwdev -e 20f
 mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
 then change ipaddress and hostname

 While that program is running we start another clone which does the
 following

 vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
 chcwdev -e 20e
 mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2

 and then the second one fails:

 sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
not
 found.

 Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
 be online that are identical to start with?


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com



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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
Make that 'df -Th'   it would be good to see the filesystem types too..

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Odd..   it must have a empty filesystem on it or it wouldn't mount..
  DIRM CLONEDISK is doing a physical copy.   Unless the CLONEDISK failed (and
 there was a previous empty filesystem on the disk), I'm not sure why you're
 seeing an empty directory.   Maybe show us a 'df -h' command as well as an
 'lsdasd'?

 Scott Rohling


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...

 but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty



 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






 From:
 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
 To:
 LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Date:
 03/09/2011 12:38 PM
 Subject:
 Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 Sent by:
 Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu



 No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
 volumes
 - no problem.

 So - does that file exist?(the config for the 4220) ..if not, why
 not?Need more info about your clones..

 Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ?   Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

 Scott Rohling

 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
 clonedisk
  command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)
 
  This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from
 
  My process will create a single clone without problem.
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
  chccwdev -e 20f
  mount /dev/dasb1  /newsys1
  then change ipaddress and hostname
 
  While that program is running we start another clone which does the
  following
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20e  mr
  chcwdev -e 20e
  mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2
 
  and then the second one fails:
 
  sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
 not
  found.
 
  Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
  be online that are identical to start with?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Gary L. Detro
 
  Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
  Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
  Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
  Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com
 
 
 
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread David Kreuter
sigh Gary did you per chance get DATAMOVEd? Can you check
dirmaint/datamove logs? Is the workunit hanging around?
David


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Cloning question for zLinux
From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, March 09, 2011 2:05 pm
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU

Make that 'df -Th' it would be good to see the filesystem types too..

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rohling
scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Odd.. it must have a empty filesystem on it or it wouldn't mount..
 DIRM CLONEDISK is doing a physical copy. Unless the CLONEDISK failed (and
 there was a previous empty filesystem on the disk), I'm not sure why you're
 seeing an empty directory. Maybe show us a 'df -h' command as well as an
 'lsdasd'?

 Scott Rohling


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...

 but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty



 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






 From:
 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
 To:
 LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Date:
 03/09/2011 12:38 PM
 Subject:
 Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 Sent by:
 Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu



 No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
 volumes
 - no problem.

 So - does that file exist? (the config for the 4220) .. if not, why
 not? Need more info about your clones..

 Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ? Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

 Scott Rohling

 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
 clonedisk
  command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)
 
  This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from
 
  My process will create a single clone without problem.
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
  chccwdev -e 20f
  mount /dev/dasb1 /newsys1
  then change ipaddress and hostname
 
  While that program is running we start another clone which does the
  following
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20e mr
  chcwdev -e 20e
  mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2
 
  and then the second one fails:
 
  sed: File /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
 not
  found.
 
  Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk to
  be online that are identical to start with?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Gary L. Detro
 
  Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
  Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
  Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
  Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com
 
 
 
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Gary Detro
When the scripts are running I can see Dirmaint creating the disks (using
flashcopy, so I don't have to wait until the copy completes).  The process
also does a lsdasd and shows the disks that are online (in the failing
case, both targets are online and have been mounted without any error
messages).


Thanks,
Gary L. Detro

Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






From:
David Kreuter dkreu...@vm-resources.com
To:
LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:
03/09/2011 01:12 PM
Subject:
Re: Cloning question for zLinux
Sent by:
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sigh Gary did you per chance get DATAMOVEd? Can you check
dirmaint/datamove logs? Is the workunit hanging around?
David


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Cloning question for zLinux
From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, March 09, 2011 2:05 pm
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU

Make that 'df -Th' it would be good to see the filesystem types too..

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rohling
scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Odd.. it must have a empty filesystem on it or it wouldn't mount..
 DIRM CLONEDISK is doing a physical copy. Unless the CLONEDISK failed
(and
 there was a previous empty filesystem on the disk), I'm not sure why
you're
 seeing an empty directory. Maybe show us a 'df -h' command as well as an
 'lsdasd'?

 Scott Rohling


 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...

 but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty



 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






 From:
 Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
 To:
 LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Date:
 03/09/2011 12:38 PM
 Subject:
 Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 Sent by:
 Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu



 No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
 volumes
 - no problem.

 So - does that file exist? (the config for the 4220) .. if not, why
 not? Need more info about your clones..

 Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ? Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?

 Scott Rohling

 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

  I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
 clonedisk
  command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)
 
  This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from
 
  My process will create a single clone without problem.
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
  chccwdev -e 20f
  mount /dev/dasb1 /newsys1
  then change ipaddress and hostname
 
  While that program is running we start another clone which does the
  following
 
  vmcp link userid 201 20e mr
  chcwdev -e 20e
  mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2
 
  and then the second one fails:
 
  sed: File
/newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
 not
  found.
 
  Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk
to
  be online that are identical to start with?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Gary L. Detro
 
  Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
  Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
  Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
  Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Cloning question for zLinux

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
It's not necessarily true that you don't need to wait until the copy
completes...   if the FLASHCOPY gets an RC0 - ok -- but if it gets a RC
indicating for example - that there are already pending flashcopies for the
device -- I'm not sure offhand if DATAMOVE tries again or fails the
workunit.  You want to see that DIRMAINT has sucessfully performed the
CLONEDISK before proceeding.

(not sure you haven't -- just cautioning)

Scott Rohling

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:

 When the scripts are running I can see Dirmaint creating the disks (using
 flashcopy, so I don't have to wait until the copy completes).  The process
 also does a lsdasd and shows the disks that are online (in the failing
 case, both targets are online and have been mounted without any error
 messages).


 Thanks,
 Gary L. Detro

 Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
 Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
 Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com






 From:
 David Kreuter dkreu...@vm-resources.com
 To:
 LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 Date:
 03/09/2011 01:12 PM
 Subject:
 Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 Sent by:
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 sigh Gary did you per chance get DATAMOVEd? Can you check
 dirmaint/datamove logs? Is the workunit hanging around?
 David


  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: Cloning question for zLinux
 From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, March 09, 2011 2:05 pm
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU

 Make that 'df -Th' it would be good to see the filesystem types too..

 Scott Rohling

 On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Scott Rohling
 scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote:

  Odd.. it must have a empty filesystem on it or it wouldn't mount..
  DIRM CLONEDISK is doing a physical copy. Unless the CLONEDISK failed
 (and
  there was a previous empty filesystem on the disk), I'm not sure why
 you're
  seeing an empty directory. Maybe show us a 'df -h' command as well as an
  'lsdasd'?
 
  Scott Rohling
 
 
  On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
  yes the lsdasd showed both dasdb and dasdc ...
 
  but when I examine the directory /dasdc it is empty
 
 
 
  Thanks,
  Gary L. Detro
 
  Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
  Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
  Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
  Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From:
  Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
  To:
  LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
  Date:
  03/09/2011 12:38 PM
  Subject:
  Re: Cloning question for zLinux
  Sent by:
  Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
 
 
 
  No - you can mount 2 separate DASD's as long as they aren't LVM
  volumes
  - no problem.
 
  So - does that file exist? (the config for the 4220) .. if not, why
  not? Need more info about your clones..
 
  Also - are you sure it's /dev/dasdc1 ? Did you do an lsdasd to confirm?
 
  Scott Rohling
 
  On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 
   I am having a problem with cloning zLinux systems ( use DirMaint
  clonedisk
   command to create the 201 disk for our cloned zlinux guests)
  
   This is a SuSE10 sp2 system we run the cloning process from
  
   My process will create a single clone without problem.
  
   vmcp link userid 201 20f mr
   chccwdev -e 20f
   mount /dev/dasb1 /newsys1
   then change ipaddress and hostname
  
   While that program is running we start another clone which does the
   following
  
   vmcp link userid 201 20e mr
   chcwdev -e 20e
   mount /dev/dasdc1 /newsys2
  
   and then the second one fails:
  
   sed: File
 /newsys2/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.4220
  not
   found.
  
   Is there something in the zLinux kernel that would not allow two disk
 to
   be online that are identical to start with?
  
  
   Thanks,
   Gary L. Detro
  
   Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019
   Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX
   Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235)
   Send me an email de...@us.ibm.com
  
  
  
  
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