Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Agblad Tore  wrote:
> Hi, I just read some info about jumbo frames on a swedish it magazine site.
> You need to have all equipment in the same net-segment support jumboframes.
> As soon as it goes via a router (gateway) it will be re-packed to whatever 
> the other side supports.

Hej, Tore. Right. I think the OP reported that once their switches had
it enabled, the elephants could fly ;-)

It's not always a good thing to fragment in the middle. Path MTU
Discovery tries to avoid that.

Rob

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Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-15 Thread Agblad Tore
Hi, I just read some info about jumbo frames on a swedish it magazine site.
You need to have all equipment in the same net-segment support jumboframes.
As soon as it goes via a router (gateway) it will be re-packed to whatever the 
other side supports.

So I guess it will work if all your zLinux servers within the same vlan 
supports jumboframes.

I'm not an expert here, maybe someone else can verify.

/Tore

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin, 
Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Sent: den 10 november 2011 13:54
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: MTU size in z/Linux

Hi

Thanks. After researching I found that the default MTU size on the 10G OSA is 
8992. So trying at 9000 or anything higher than the 8992 on z/Linux is a moot 
point.

Thanks again for the information.

Btw, there was nothing that I had to do from the z/VM standpoint or TCP/IP on 
z/VM. The TCP/IP stack on the z/Linux guest is where the MTU size was set for 
this. The main thing in our case was that the Jumbo Frame support on our CISCO 
switch was not enabled once that was enabled we were able to start transferring 
Jumbo Frames.  

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Principal Systems Engineer
Lockheed Martin
CMS - CITIC
3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244  
Engineering Computing
Mainframe Support
Cell - 443 632-4191



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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ursula 
Braun
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:30 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: MTU size in z/Linux

Terry,

when changing the MTU value for a qeth device, the qeth driver does some 
checking against the the maximum value allowed. This value depends on the type 
of the qeth device (OSA or HiperSockets), but in both cases the hardware / 
firmware defines the maximum allowed value.

Regards, Ursula Braun, IBM Germany

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:28 -0500, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
wrote:
> Hi
>
> It does not seem to let us specify an MTU higher than 8192. The 
> question is can we specify a MTU size of 9000 or 9200
>
> Thank You,
>
> Terry Martin
> Principal Systems Engineer
> Lockheed Martin
> CMS - CITIC
> 3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244 Engineering Computing 
> Mainframe Support Cell - 443 632-4191

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Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 11/10/2011 at 07:54 EST, "Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)"
 wrote:
> Thanks. After researching I found that the default MTU size on the 10G
OSA is
> 8992. So trying at 9000 or anything higher than the 8992 on z/Linux is a
moot
> point.
>
> Thanks again for the information.
>
> Btw, there was nothing that I had to do from the z/VM standpoint or
TCP/IP on
> z/VM. The TCP/IP stack on the z/Linux guest is where the MTU size was
set for
> this. The main thing in our case was that the Jumbo Frame support on our
CISCO
> switch was not enabled once that was enabled we were able to start
transferring
> Jumbo Frames.

The limit of 8992 is because the OSAs support 802.2/802.3x-conformant
ethernet frames.  (The 8992 value is documented in the OSA-Express
Customer's Guide and Reference.)

Alan Altmark

Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott

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Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-10 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi

Thanks. After researching I found that the default MTU size on the 10G OSA is 
8992. So trying at 9000 or anything higher than the 8992 on z/Linux is a moot 
point.

Thanks again for the information.

Btw, there was nothing that I had to do from the z/VM standpoint or TCP/IP on 
z/VM. The TCP/IP stack on the z/Linux guest is where the MTU size was set for 
this. The main thing in our case was that the Jumbo Frame support on our CISCO 
switch was not enabled once that was enabled we were able to start transferring 
Jumbo Frames.  

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Principal Systems Engineer
Lockheed Martin
CMS - CITIC
3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244  
Engineering Computing
Mainframe Support
Cell - 443 632-4191



-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Ursula 
Braun
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:30 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: MTU size in z/Linux

Terry,

when changing the MTU value for a qeth device, the qeth driver does some 
checking against the the maximum value allowed. This value depends on the type 
of the qeth device (OSA or HiperSockets), but in both cases the hardware / 
firmware defines the maximum allowed value.

Regards, Ursula Braun, IBM Germany

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:28 -0500, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
wrote:
> Hi
>
> It does not seem to let us specify an MTU higher than 8192. The 
> question is can we specify a MTU size of 9000 or 9200
>
> Thank You,
>
> Terry Martin
> Principal Systems Engineer
> Lockheed Martin
> CMS - CITIC
> 3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244 Engineering Computing 
> Mainframe Support Cell - 443 632-4191

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Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-10 Thread Ursula Braun
Terry,

when changing the MTU value for a qeth device, the qeth driver does some
checking against the the maximum value allowed. This value depends on
the type of the qeth device (OSA or HiperSockets), but in both cases the
hardware / firmware defines the maximum allowed value.

Regards, Ursula Braun, IBM Germany

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:28 -0500, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
wrote:
> Hi
>
> It does not seem to let us specify an MTU higher than 8192. The question is 
> can we specify a MTU size of 9000 or 9200
>
> Thank You,
>
> Terry Martin
> Principal Systems Engineer
> Lockheed Martin
> CMS - CITIC
> 3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244
> Engineering Computing
> Mainframe Support
> Cell - 443 632-4191

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Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-09 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi

It does not seem to let us specify an MTU higher than 8192. The question is can 
we specify a MTU size of 9000 or 9200 

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Principal Systems Engineer
Lockheed Martin
CMS - CITIC
3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244  
Engineering Computing
Mainframe Support
Cell - 443 632-4191



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Gasiorowski
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:17 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: MTU size in z/Linux

change it in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethx

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To:
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Date:
11/09/2011 11:58 AM
Subject:
MTU size in z/Linux



Hi

Can we set a custom MTU size in z/Linux RHEL 5.2. We would like to set the MTU 
to 9000 but can't seem to get it to take? The network switch we are 
communication with supports a MAX MTU of 9216.

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Principal Systems Engineer
Lockheed Martin
CMS - CITIC
3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244 Engineering Computing Mainframe 
Support Cell - 443 632-4191



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Re: MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-09 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
change it in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethx

Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski
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From:
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To:
LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:
11/09/2011 11:58 AM
Subject:
MTU size in z/Linux



Hi

Can we set a custom MTU size in z/Linux RHEL 5.2. We would like to set the
MTU to 9000 but can't seem to get it to take? The network switch we are
communication with supports a MAX MTU of 9216.

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Principal Systems Engineer
Lockheed Martin
CMS - CITIC
3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244
Engineering Computing
Mainframe Support
Cell - 443 632-4191



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MTU size in z/Linux

2011-11-09 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi

Can we set a custom MTU size in z/Linux RHEL 5.2. We would like to set the MTU 
to 9000 but can't seem to get it to take? The network switch we are 
communication with supports a MAX MTU of 9216.

Thank You,

Terry Martin
Principal Systems Engineer
Lockheed Martin
CMS - CITIC
3300 Lord Baltimore Drive, Suite 200, 21244
Engineering Computing
Mainframe Support
Cell - 443 632-4191



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