Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-18 Thread David Boyes
> Does someone have an example of why this is so good that Gneale is
> spending so much time on it? I feel uncomfortable when I have not even
> looked at it when he is so interested in it...

Check out Neale's presentation from Hillgang that I posted. It's got
some nifty examples of cool stuff done with Mono.

The biggest thing I've seen is that it allows the Microsoft weenies in
your company to produce their web and application widgets with the .NET
tools they know how to operate, but deploy on non-Windows platforms
without the massive bloat of Java-based solutions and all that the Java
religion pulls in. It lets you seriously propose to ditch IIS
permanently in favor of something substantially more secure and useful
-- like Apache with mod_mono.

Another Good Thing is that now that Neale has the JIT compilation
working, Mono apps are much closer to native code performance, and (in
my observation) the code size seems smaller (which plays much nicer in
shared resource environments) than the Java equivalent.

Third, the tooling is more multi-lingual -- Mono isn't limited to a
single programming language (there are COBOL Mono bindings ...e!),
and there are some really spiffy Eclipse-based IDE tools coming out for
Mono/.NET. When there are REXX bindings, then *that* will be cool.

Can't say that I'm yet convinced that C# is all that great, but with
Mono, I don't have to use it.

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Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2005-03-18 at 12:49, Michael MacIsaac wrote:
> best development environment in the world". And I got the feeling that
> that man knows his development environments.  FWIW.

I think you'll find a lot of people who disagree with both of those
statements 8)

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Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-18 Thread Michael MacIsaac
> Does someone have an example of why this is so good that Gneale is
> spending so much time on it? I feel uncomfortable when I have not even
> looked at it when he is so interested in it...

I heard Miguel de Icaza speak on mono at LinuxWorld in NYC in either 02 or
03. He said words to the effect of "the .net *frameworks* is perhaps the
best development environment in the world". And I got the feeling that
that man knows his development environments.  FWIW.

"Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   (845) 433-7061

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Re: Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:21:53 -0500, Post, Mark K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Neale Ferguson has uploaded a package of mono-1.1.4 RPMs for S/390 to the
> linuxvm.org site.  It's on the large size (~20MB), so be patient if you're
> on a dial up line.

Does someone have an example of why this is so good that Gneale is
spending so much time on it? I feel uncomfortable when I have not even
looked at it when he is so interested in it...

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Mono 1.1.4 RPMs for S/390

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Neale Ferguson has uploaded a package of mono-1.1.4 RPMs for S/390 to the
linuxvm.org site.  It's on the large size (~20MB), so be patient if you're
on a dial up line.

http://linuxvm.org/Patches/


Mark Post

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