Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-30 Thread Carsten Otte

Shockley, Gerard C wrote:

I'm at the zSeries Oracle Special Interest Group this week and Oracle
says OCSF2 is not supported and non-directional.

They say use ASM and RAC.

That means the file system is not supported to be used with the
database. The file system itself seems pretty solid to me.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-29 Thread David Boyes
 Please note that OCFS2 is not supported for production use on Linux
for
 System z.  This is largely due to a lack of extensive enough
testing/QA
 work.  It should work for you, but at this time its only recommended
for
 testing.
 
 Now, if one needed to have a file system r/w from more than 1 linux
 server on z, what would the current supported recommendation be?  And
is
 anyone doing such with MQ Series?

NFSv3 or AFS are reliable for this purpose and work well. GFS was
supported for a while (before RH bought Sistina) -- might still be
available. IBM will sell you GPFS. 

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-29 Thread Jim Elliott
 NFSv3 or AFS are reliable for this purpose and work well. GFS
 was supported for a while (before RH bought Sistina) -- might
 still be available. IBM will sell you GPFS.

David: GPFS is not (yet) available for Linux on z.

Jim

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-29 Thread David Boyes
  NFSv3 or AFS are reliable for this purpose and work well. GFS
  was supported for a while (before RH bought Sistina) -- might
  still be available. IBM will sell you GPFS.
 David: GPFS is not (yet) available for Linux on z.

Hmm. Guess one of the dev folks pre-announced it to a bunch of IBM
salespeople, then. We just had a conf call with a customer and some IBM
people where the IBM contingent pitched GPFS pretty hard for Linux on Z.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-29 Thread Shockley, Gerard C
I'm at the zSeries Oracle Special Interest Group this week and Oracle
says OCSF2 is not supported and non-directional.

They say use ASM and RAC. 


Gerard C. Shockley
Boston University
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David Boyes
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: OCFS2 Setup

  NFSv3 or AFS are reliable for this purpose and work well. GFS was 
  supported for a while (before RH bought Sistina) -- might still be 
  available. IBM will sell you GPFS.
 David: GPFS is not (yet) available for Linux on z.

Hmm. Guess one of the dev folks pre-announced it to a bunch of IBM
salespeople, then. We just had a conf call with a customer and some IBM
people where the IBM contingent pitched GPFS pretty hard for Linux on Z.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-29 Thread Mark Post
 On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at  6:14 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Shockley, Gerard
C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I'm at the zSeries Oracle Special Interest Group this week and Oracle
 says OCSF2 is not supported and non-directional.
 
 They say use ASM and RAC. 

That would be news to our product management teams and developers.  Of course 
it wouldn't be the first time someone (or more than one) from Oracle has talked 
nonsense in public.

Based on what I've heard from people involved in consulting engagements, RAC 
doesn't scale very well.  At my previous job, the DBA ran into problems and 
Oracle's tech support told her to not use ASM.  So, to me, OCFS2 looks to be a 
better choice.


Mark Post

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OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Jim Fujimoto

Hello All,

I'm trying to set up a two node ocfs2 cluster and run it on two SLES10
SP1 guests running in two different z/VM 5.3 lpars.
The shared disk is an lvm volume comprised of 3390-3s, and I'm using the
standard disk-based heartbeat and port .

I was able to get this to work when both guests were running on the same
system, but the nodes won't connect if they are running
on two different z/VM systems. At first I thought it might be a network
problem, but the nodes can ping and ssh each other.
Is there something else that needs to be set up for this to work across
lpars?

Thanks.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
One thing that comes to mind is that you need to be sure you have MDC
set off for the volumes being shared.
 
(cp set shared on  ).

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Jim Fujimoto
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:49 AM
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Subject: [LINUX-390] OCFS2 Setup

Hello All,

I'm trying to set up a two node ocfs2 cluster and run it on two SLES10
SP1 guests running in two different z/VM 5.3 lpars.
The shared disk is an lvm volume comprised of 3390-3s, and I'm using the
standard disk-based heartbeat and port .

I was able to get this to work when both guests were running on the same
system, but the nodes won't connect if they are running on two different
z/VM systems. At first I thought it might be a network problem, but the
nodes can ping and ssh each other.
Is there something else that needs to be set up for this to work across
lpars?

Thanks.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Mark Perry

Jim Fujimoto wrote:

Hello All,

I'm trying to set up a two node ocfs2 cluster and run it on two SLES10
SP1 guests running in two different z/VM 5.3 lpars.
The shared disk is an lvm volume comprised of 3390-3s, and I'm using the
standard disk-based heartbeat and port .

I was able to get this to work when both guests were running on the same
system, but the nodes won't connect if they are running
on two different z/VM systems. At first I thought it might be a network
problem, but the nodes can ping and ssh each other.
Is there something else that needs to be set up for this to work across
lpars?


A Firewall (internal or external) may allow ping and ssh, but not other
ports.
Did you check /var/log/firewall on both SLES systems?

mark

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Jim Fujimoto

That fixed it.

Thanks!

Marcy Cortes wrote:

One thing that comes to mind is that you need to be sure you have MDC
set off for the volumes being shared.

(cp set shared on  ).

Marcy Cortes

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jim Fujimoto
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 10:49 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] OCFS2 Setup

Hello All,

I'm trying to set up a two node ocfs2 cluster and run it on two SLES10
SP1 guests running in two different z/VM 5.3 lpars.
The shared disk is an lvm volume comprised of 3390-3s, and I'm using the
standard disk-based heartbeat and port .

I was able to get this to work when both guests were running on the same
system, but the nodes won't connect if they are running on two different
z/VM systems. At first I thought it might be a network problem, but the
nodes can ping and ssh each other.
Is there something else that needs to be set up for this to work across
lpars?

Thanks.

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Mark Post
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at  1:48 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jim Fujimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hello All,
 
 I'm trying to set up a two node ocfs2 cluster and run it on two SLES10
 SP1 guests running in two different z/VM 5.3 lpars.

Please note that OCFS2 is not supported for production use on Linux for System 
z.  This is largely due to a lack of extensive enough testing/QA work.  It 
should work for you, but at this time its only recommended for testing.

 The shared disk is an lvm volume comprised of 3390-3s, and I'm using the
 standard disk-based heartbeat and port .
 
 I was able to get this to work when both guests were running on the same
 system, but the nodes won't connect if they are running
 on two different z/VM systems. At first I thought it might be a network
 problem, but the nodes can ping and ssh each other.
 Is there something else that needs to be set up for this to work across
 lpars?

There shouldn't be as far as OCFS2 itself is concerned, but as was suggested 
already, check for firewalls that might now be in between the two systems.  A 
simple telnet other.system.name  should show if that port is open or not.


Mark Post

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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Marcy Cortes
Mark wrote:

Please note that OCFS2 is not supported for production use on Linux for
System z.  This is largely due to a lack of extensive enough testing/QA
work.  It should work for you, but at this time its only recommended for
testing.

Now, if one needed to have a file system r/w from more than 1 linux
server on z, what would the current supported recommendation be?  And is
anyone doing such with MQ Series?



Marcy Cortes 
 
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Re: OCFS2 Setup

2008-04-28 Thread Mark Post
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at  5:34 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcy
Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
-snip-
 Now, if one needed to have a file system r/w from more than 1 linux
 server on z, what would the current supported recommendation be?  And is
 anyone doing such with MQ Series?

At this time, I would say any of the network file systems, NFS, AFS (not 
shipped with SLES10), SMB, CIFS.


Mark Post

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