Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 04:03:12PM +, David Goodenough wrote: > Unless told otherwise [Knoppix] does not write to any disk This is not quite true; knoppix will discover and use a swap partition if present. -- - mdz
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
Knoppix. Its Debian based, and is a very good demonstrator of whether all the hardware in a box is usable by Linux. Unless told otherwise it does not write to any disk, but you can install it to disk it you want. It is perhaps the fullest function recovery CD there is. It includes not only basic functions, but also Open Office and the like. David "Beinert, William" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel? Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU> 05/02/2003 19:23 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know someone who could benefit from this. Can anyone refresh my memory? thanks Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison (212) 460-4853 When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took the sixth amendment, I was quiet because, I was innocent. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun! Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can say (or do) nothing about it. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. MODWN DAbE
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel? - thanks
Thanks. Knoppix is what I was looking for. Bill -Original Message- From: Rod Furey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel? CD based SuSE Live Eval - as mentioned in Michael's post DemoLinux - www.demolinux.org Knoppix - www.knoppix.org There are various projects around the net that are working on this sort of thing as well. There are others that you can boot off floppies but these tend to be fairly small systems that are designed for rescue acts. A word of experience: I use a copy of the SuSE Eval CD when I'm fixing other people's PC problems. I got it off the front of Linux Format, one of the UK mags (which I read, I'm in no other way associated with them). It's a 7.1 release and unfortunately it doesn't pick up everything on all hardware. I've got a friend who's got a PackardBell "laptop on it's side" model and the mouse isn't picked up. Curiously enough, the Mandrake 7 release will find it if it's installed. Sometimes it won't pick up modems or sound cards either. Before the SuSE people jump on me I'd like to point out: 1 - I offer this as a reminder that some kit just isn't recognised 2 - I know it's old 3 - I'm on a dialup line so I'm not about to spend 24 hours downloading any newer version 4 - I use SuSE as my primary Linux install on 2 boxes at home (the other boxes being iMacs which are running OS 9 and/or OS X) as it was the only distro at the time that would correctly configure my X installation (and a good job it did of it too) Rod
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:23:33PM -0500, Beinert, William wrote: > > There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed > > someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. > > I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know > > someone who could benefit from this. > > They're usually called Live-CDs. I know Gentoo did a nice once recently > that was basically the infrastructure support for Unreal Tournament > 2003. Pretty cool. SuSE used to hand out LiveCDs at tradeshows and > stuff, but I dunno if they still do. There's also Knoppix from .de. And a couple of firewall setups that run from CD. I've got my own installer. I boot a floppy containing an Etherboot bootrom, and that loads a kernel and initrd (standard Debian kernel in fact) off a tftp server and runs that. The linuxrc in it establishes a network connection (modprobes my NIC drivers until one takes) and mounts a filesystem over nfs. While this system is my installer, it could actually be any Linux setup at all. a firewall on a ro filesystem, a xterminal, a full desktop setup. -- Cheers John. Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
Knoppix Linux at http://www.knoppix.org It's an excellent way to show someone (yourself) what Linux would look like running on their own machine (but without touching their hard drive). I always carry a copy in my knapsack for those moments when my eloquence is not enough to convince :-) Seriously, they've done some excellent work on device recognition. I had a hard time to get sound working on my thinkpad but knoppix worked right off... Other cool techniques, like compressed filesystem, etc. make it pretty neat to work with... Downside is that it's obiously a little slow to load. Chris *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/5/2003, at 2:23 PM, Beinert, William wrote: >There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot >and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. >I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know someone who could >benefit from this. > >Can anyone refresh my memory? > >thanks > >Bill Beinert >Systems Programming >Con Edison >(212) 460-4853 > >When they took the fourth amendment, > I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! >When they took the sixth amendment, > I was quiet because, I was innocent. >When they took the second amendment, > I was quiet because I didn't own a gun! >Now they've taken the first amendment, > and I can say (or do) nothing about it. >The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. >MODWN DAbE Chris Rohrbach email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
I believe they do. Do a search on knoppix, and you'll also come up with something good. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel? On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:23:33PM -0500, Beinert, William wrote: > There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed > someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. > I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know > someone who could benefit from this. They're usually called Live-CDs. I know Gentoo did a nice once recently that was basically the infrastructure support for Unreal Tournament 2003. Pretty cool. SuSE used to hand out LiveCDs at tradeshows and stuff, but I dunno if they still do. Adam
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
CD based SuSE Live Eval - as mentioned in Michael's post DemoLinux - www.demolinux.org Knoppix - www.knoppix.org There are various projects around the net that are working on this sort of thing as well. There are others that you can boot off floppies but these tend to be fairly small systems that are designed for rescue acts. A word of experience: I use a copy of the SuSE Eval CD when I'm fixing other people's PC problems. I got it off the front of Linux Format, one of the UK mags (which I read, I'm in no other way associated with them). It's a 7.1 release and unfortunately it doesn't pick up everything on all hardware. I've got a friend who's got a PackardBell "laptop on it's side" model and the mouse isn't picked up. Curiously enough, the Mandrake 7 release will find it if it's installed. Sometimes it won't pick up modems or sound cards either. Before the SuSE people jump on me I'd like to point out: 1 - I offer this as a reminder that some kit just isn't recognised 2 - I know it's old 3 - I'm on a dialup line so I'm not about to spend 24 hours downloading any newer version 4 - I use SuSE as my primary Linux install on 2 boxes at home (the other boxes being iMacs which are running OS 9 and/or OS X) as it was the only distro at the time that would correctly configure my X installation (and a good job it did of it too) Rod
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
You are referring to the SuSE Live Evaluation CD. You can find it here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/ Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-3123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Beinert, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel? There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know someone who could benefit from this. Can anyone refresh my memory? thanks Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison (212) 460-4853 When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took the sixth amendment, I was quiet because, I was innocent. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun! Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can say (or do) nothing about it. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. MODWN DAbE
Re: OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 02:23:33PM -0500, Beinert, William wrote: > There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed > someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. > I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know > someone who could benefit from this. They're usually called Live-CDs. I know Gentoo did a nice once recently that was basically the infrastructure support for Unreal Tournament 2003. Pretty cool. SuSE used to hand out LiveCDs at tradeshows and stuff, but I dunno if they still do. Adam
OT (almost) - boot Linux from CDROM on Intel?
There was discussion (I think on this list) of a CDROM that allowed someone to boot and run Linux from a CDROM without installing Linux. I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now I think I know someone who could benefit from this. Can anyone refresh my memory? thanks Bill Beinert Systems Programming Con Edison (212) 460-4853 When they took the fourth amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs! When they took the sixth amendment, I was quiet because, I was innocent. When they took the second amendment, I was quiet because I didn't own a gun! Now they've taken the first amendment, and I can say (or do) nothing about it. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others. MODWN DAbE
