Re: OT - z/OS and ACF2 - OMVS id cancelled due to max violations

2005-03-16 Thread Ward, Garry
Given the name of the dataset, check in ACF2 for any generic protection
type rules: NODE1.* or NOD* type rules. There may be no specific rule
for the dataset, but some portion of the name may have been caught under
a generic rule. 

Was it defined on a volume or group of volumes that is used by USS?

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Subject: OT - z/OS and ACF2 - OMVS id cancelled due to max violations

Though this is a z/VM mailing list, I hope someone will be able to shed
some light on this bizarre problem that I have difficulty explaining.

We defined a dataset that I think (!) we perhaps created as a HFS
dataset.
We did not do anything else (no read or update)  with it. We had not set
up any ACF2 rules for it.

But somehow we are getting ACF2 violations on accesses from USS. When
the violations exceeded the limit, USS id was cancelled by ACF2 causing
all TCP/IP and USS dependent tasks to abend. We had to re-IPL the LPAR.

We had to delete the dataset before re-IPLing for fear of another
incident!

I am guessing that because we set it up as a HFS (unintentionally), any
access by backup jobs or via ISPF was considered as coming from USS.
Since the ACF2 rules were not set up, it caused violations and the
consequent results.

We do not remember if we set it up as a normal or HFS dataset. That
evidence is gone. But my theory is that it was set up as HFS with no
ACF2 rules and any access to it was considered as coming from USS.

This is bizarre. We are splitting hair to find out why and how it
happened.

Any clues welcome :-)
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Ranga Nathan / CSG
Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc.
Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840

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Re: OT - z/OS and ACF2 - OMVS id cancelled due to max violations

2005-03-16 Thread Brian France
In ACF2, for it to actually check HFS(USS) data sets for access rules, you
have to turn some options on. It by default does not check those types of
data sets. That being said, it will report the access under the Open
Edition events section. That access is by the traditional Unix attributes
that are on the data set. ie - rwxrwxrwx or what ever they may be. I didn't
think those violations would count towards a LID being suspended. I'm
ass/u/me/ing that it was TCPIP that had the problems by what you've said.
One thing to know is that you can restart your OMVS(USS) system WITHOUT an
IPL. F OMVS,SHUTDOWN and then a F OMVS,START should take care of that. That
should in theory give you back TCP access. I forget what level of z/OS that
became available but know that it was at z/OS 1.3 and up. If you want to
talk offline since this is not the correct list, please contact me off list.
At 11:42 PM 3/15/2005, you wrote:
Though this is a z/VM mailing list, I hope someone will be able to shed
some light on this bizarre problem that I have difficulty explaining.
We defined a dataset that I think (!) we perhaps created as a HFS dataset.
We did not do anything else (no read or update)  with it. We had not set
up any ACF2 rules for it.
But somehow we are getting ACF2 violations on accesses from USS. When the
violations exceeded the limit, USS id was cancelled by ACF2 causing all
TCP/IP and USS dependent tasks to abend. We had to re-IPL the LPAR.
We had to delete the dataset before re-IPLing for fear of another
incident!
I am guessing that because we set it up as a HFS (unintentionally), any
access by backup jobs or via ISPF was considered as coming from USS. Since
the ACF2 rules were not set up, it caused violations and the consequent
results.
We do not remember if we set it up as a normal or HFS dataset. That
evidence is gone. But my theory is that it was set up as HFS with no ACF2
rules and any access to it was considered as coming from USS.
This is bizarre. We are splitting hair to find out why and how it
happened.
Any clues welcome :-)
__
Ranga Nathan / CSG
Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services;
BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840
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OT - z/OS and ACF2 - OMVS id cancelled due to max violations

2005-03-15 Thread Ranga Nathan
Though this is a z/VM mailing list, I hope someone will be able to shed
some light on this bizarre problem that I have difficulty explaining.

We defined a dataset that I think (!) we perhaps created as a HFS dataset.
We did not do anything else (no read or update)  with it. We had not set
up any ACF2 rules for it.

But somehow we are getting ACF2 violations on accesses from USS. When the
violations exceeded the limit, USS id was cancelled by ACF2 causing all
TCP/IP and USS dependent tasks to abend. We had to re-IPL the LPAR.

We had to delete the dataset before re-IPLing for fear of another
incident!

I am guessing that because we set it up as a HFS (unintentionally), any
access by backup jobs or via ISPF was considered as coming from USS. Since
the ACF2 rules were not set up, it caused violations and the consequent
results.

We do not remember if we set it up as a normal or HFS dataset. That
evidence is gone. But my theory is that it was set up as HFS with no ACF2
rules and any access to it was considered as coming from USS.

This is bizarre. We are splitting hair to find out why and how it
happened.

Any clues welcome :-)
__
Ranga Nathan / CSG
Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services;
BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California
Tel: 714-442-7591   Fax: 714-442-2840

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