Re: OpenMainframeProject
Hello, On 12 December 2015 at 14:08, Phil Tully wrote: > Yes I am involved with the Linux Foundation Open Mainframe Project. We have a > Technical Steering Committee which set the project direction. We expect to > have focus on projects that will benefit running open software on the > mainframe. > Phil > Is the EU meetup cancelled? https://www.openmainframeproject.org/news/events/2016-01-26/open-mainframe-project-eu-meetup is no longer accessible. I was hoping to attend. -- Regards, Dimitri. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Fw: OpenMainframeProject
I believe Marist is involved, but through my boss, Harry Williams. I haven't been directly involved, but still do support zLinux servers for Linux Foundation projects. Martha On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:52:36 -0500 Bryan Foley said: >The Open Mainframe Project is a project set up by the Linux Foundation to >promote and grow the capabilities of Linux meeting current and future >demands of the digital economy. It is intended to bring together clients - >who are looking to marry the openness and agility of the open world, with >the enterprise-grade capabilities of a server that can meet those demands >like z Systems and LinuxONE - with vendors and academia to deliver upon the >requirements needed to drive forward the state of the art. > >Steven Dickens (steven.dick...@us.ibm.com) has led this initiative for IBM >(one of many members), and can provide more information. It would be great >for the members on this mailing list to be part of this initiative. > > >Bryan Foley >Program Director, z Systems Strategy & Linux for z Systems Business Line >Manager >Internet: fol...@us.ibm.com >Tieline: 293-5955/External: (845) 433-5955 > > > > >- Forwarded by Bryan Foley/Poughkeepsie/IBM on 12/11/2015 20:44 - > >From: John Campbell >To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >Date: 12/11/2015 20:24 >Subject:Re: OpenMainframeProject >Sent by:Linux on 390 Port > > > >Open Mainframe? News to me. > >Mainframes require three criteria: > >1) Maximum *reliable* single-thread performance (see the "Linux on S/390" >redbook "Appendix A" for how reliability is tricked out); >2) Maximum I/O throughput; and >3) Maximum I/O connectivity. > >Admittedly, criterion 3 is kind of undercut by SAN technology. > >Additionally, the instruction set need not mimic the zSeries to be a >mainframe. We already know that handling memory access faults in IBM's SS >instructions for virtual machine functionality that much harder to pull >off... > >Now you've all just added to my reading list. > >(laughs maniacally) > >"You are the MS-DOS of Evil... Only 640K... Not EVIL Enough!" > >-soup > >On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Christer Solskogen < >christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved >> somehow? >> >> -- >> chs >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> > > > >-- >John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot >com >MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows >"It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; >Regardless > of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail >because, > somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me > >-- >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >visit >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >-- >For more information on Linux on System z, visit >http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > >-- >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >-- >For more information on Linux on System z, visit >http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: OpenMainframeProject
>>> On 12/13/2015 at 12:30 PM, Christer Solskogen wrote: > I just find it interesting that it haven't been mentioned on this list > before now... Well, there really hasn't been anything to discuss. The announcement was made about 4 months ago, and there haven't been any significant news since then. I know SUSE has appointed our representative to the project, and that's been about all I've heard since the initial announcement went out. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: OpenMainframeProject
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Phil Tully wrote: > Yes I am involved with the Linux Foundation Open Mainframe Project. We have a > Technical Steering Committee which set the project direction. We expect to > have focus on projects that will benefit running open software on the > mainframe. I just find it interesting that it haven't been mentioned on this list before now... -- chs -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: OpenMainframeProject
Yes I am involved with the Linux Foundation Open Mainframe Project. We have a Technical Steering Committee which set the project direction. We expect to have focus on projects that will benefit running open software on the mainframe. Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Dimitri John Ledkov > wrote: > > I think the question is about Linux Foundation Open Mainframe Project > in partnership with a bunch of people. > > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2015/08/linux-foundation-brings-together-industry-heavyweights-advance > > https://www.openmainframeproject.org/ > > Regards, > > Dimitri. > >> On 12 December 2015 at 01:27, John Campbell wrote: >> Hmmm... >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_mainframe >> >> That's entirely different from what I thought it was. >> >> Neverr Minnn >> >> -soup >> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:23 PM, John Campbell wrote: >>> >>> Open Mainframe? News to me. >>> >>> Mainframes require three criteria: >>> >>> 1) Maximum *reliable* single-thread performance (see the "Linux on S/390" >>> redbook "Appendix A" for how reliability is tricked out); >>> 2) Maximum I/O throughput; and >>> 3) Maximum I/O connectivity. >>> >>> Admittedly, criterion 3 is kind of undercut by SAN technology. >>> >>> Additionally, the instruction set need not mimic the zSeries to be a >>> mainframe. We already know that handling memory access faults in IBM's SS >>> instructions for virtual machine functionality that much harder to pull >>> off... >>> >>> Now you've all just added to my reading list. >>> >>> (laughs maniacally) >>> >>> "You are the MS-DOS of Evil... Only 640K... Not EVIL Enough!" >>> >>> -soup >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Christer Solskogen < >>> christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved somehow? -- chs -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot >>> com >>> MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows >>> "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; >>> Regardless >>> of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail >>> because, >>> somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me >> >> >> >> -- >> John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot >> com >> MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows >> "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; >> Regardless >> of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail because, >> somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > -- > Regards, > > Dimitri. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Fw: OpenMainframeProject
The Open Mainframe Project is a project set up by the Linux Foundation to promote and grow the capabilities of Linux meeting current and future demands of the digital economy. It is intended to bring together clients - who are looking to marry the openness and agility of the open world, with the enterprise-grade capabilities of a server that can meet those demands like z Systems and LinuxONE - with vendors and academia to deliver upon the requirements needed to drive forward the state of the art. Steven Dickens (steven.dick...@us.ibm.com) has led this initiative for IBM (one of many members), and can provide more information. It would be great for the members on this mailing list to be part of this initiative. Bryan Foley Program Director, z Systems Strategy & Linux for z Systems Business Line Manager Internet: fol...@us.ibm.com Tieline: 293-5955/External: (845) 433-5955 - Forwarded by Bryan Foley/Poughkeepsie/IBM on 12/11/2015 20:44 - From: John Campbell To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 12/11/2015 20:24 Subject:Re: OpenMainframeProject Sent by:Linux on 390 Port Open Mainframe? News to me. Mainframes require three criteria: 1) Maximum *reliable* single-thread performance (see the "Linux on S/390" redbook "Appendix A" for how reliability is tricked out); 2) Maximum I/O throughput; and 3) Maximum I/O connectivity. Admittedly, criterion 3 is kind of undercut by SAN technology. Additionally, the instruction set need not mimic the zSeries to be a mainframe. We already know that handling memory access faults in IBM's SS instructions for virtual machine functionality that much harder to pull off... Now you've all just added to my reading list. (laughs maniacally) "You are the MS-DOS of Evil... Only 640K... Not EVIL Enough!" -soup On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Christer Solskogen < christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote: > I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved > somehow? > > -- > chs > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot com MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; Regardless of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail because, somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: OpenMainframeProject
I think the question is about Linux Foundation Open Mainframe Project in partnership with a bunch of people. http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2015/08/linux-foundation-brings-together-industry-heavyweights-advance https://www.openmainframeproject.org/ Regards, Dimitri. On 12 December 2015 at 01:27, John Campbell wrote: > Hmmm... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_mainframe > > That's entirely different from what I thought it was. > > Neverr Minnn > > -soup > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:23 PM, John Campbell wrote: > >> Open Mainframe? News to me. >> >> Mainframes require three criteria: >> >> 1) Maximum *reliable* single-thread performance (see the "Linux on S/390" >> redbook "Appendix A" for how reliability is tricked out); >> 2) Maximum I/O throughput; and >> 3) Maximum I/O connectivity. >> >> Admittedly, criterion 3 is kind of undercut by SAN technology. >> >> Additionally, the instruction set need not mimic the zSeries to be a >> mainframe. We already know that handling memory access faults in IBM's SS >> instructions for virtual machine functionality that much harder to pull >> off... >> >> Now you've all just added to my reading list. >> >> (laughs maniacally) >> >> "You are the MS-DOS of Evil... Only 640K... Not EVIL Enough!" >> >> -soup >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Christer Solskogen < >> christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved >>> somehow? >>> >>> -- >>> chs >>> >>> -- >>> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >>> visit >>> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >>> -- >>> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >>> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot >> com >> MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows >> "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; >> Regardless >> of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail >> because, >> somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me >> > > > > -- > John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot > com > MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows > "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; > Regardless > of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail because, > somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- Regards, Dimitri. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: OpenMainframeProject
Hmmm... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_mainframe That's entirely different from what I thought it was. Neverr Minnn -soup On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:23 PM, John Campbell wrote: > Open Mainframe? News to me. > > Mainframes require three criteria: > > 1) Maximum *reliable* single-thread performance (see the "Linux on S/390" > redbook "Appendix A" for how reliability is tricked out); > 2) Maximum I/O throughput; and > 3) Maximum I/O connectivity. > > Admittedly, criterion 3 is kind of undercut by SAN technology. > > Additionally, the instruction set need not mimic the zSeries to be a > mainframe. We already know that handling memory access faults in IBM's SS > instructions for virtual machine functionality that much harder to pull > off... > > Now you've all just added to my reading list. > > (laughs maniacally) > > "You are the MS-DOS of Evil... Only 640K... Not EVIL Enough!" > > -soup > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Christer Solskogen < > christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved >> somehow? >> >> -- >> chs >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> > > > > -- > John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot > com > MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows > "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; > Regardless > of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail > because, > somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me > -- John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot com MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; Regardless of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail because, somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: OpenMainframeProject
Open Mainframe? News to me. Mainframes require three criteria: 1) Maximum *reliable* single-thread performance (see the "Linux on S/390" redbook "Appendix A" for how reliability is tricked out); 2) Maximum I/O throughput; and 3) Maximum I/O connectivity. Admittedly, criterion 3 is kind of undercut by SAN technology. Additionally, the instruction set need not mimic the zSeries to be a mainframe. We already know that handling memory access faults in IBM's SS instructions for virtual machine functionality that much harder to pull off... Now you've all just added to my reading list. (laughs maniacally) "You are the MS-DOS of Evil... Only 640K... Not EVIL Enough!" -soup On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Christer Solskogen < christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote: > I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved > somehow? > > -- > chs > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot com MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows "It doesn't matter how well-crafted a system is to eliminate errors; Regardless of any and all checks and balances in place, all systems will fail because, somewhere, there is meat in the loop." - me -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
OpenMainframeProject
I haven't seen that been discussed here. Are any of you guys involved somehow? -- chs -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
