Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-21 Thread Miguel Diaz
 An interesting finding and a question; you use the term must with
respect
 to configuring the PORTNAME option of DEFINE VSWITCH when it appears to
be
 optional parameter. I might be taking this out of context as the
statements
 made only refer to the placement of the PORTNAME parameter (PORTNAME
must
 be the last parameter) but it reads like this parameter is not
optional. I
 find that it really isn't necessary to address the port name when
defining a
 functional switch but it might be prudent to do so. Is there any
situation
 that you can think of where not addressing the OSA port name in the
switch
 definition might trip someone up?

This, while a little misleading, is not incorrect.  The portname, while
optional,
MUST be the last parameter if it is specified.  Not specifying the
portname should
not cause any problems, and is probably the better way to go.  That way if
someone
changes it on some other system using the device, it won't break the
VSWITCH's
ability to use the OSA.

 Also, when configuring the TCPIP service machines to autolog, I find it
 helpful to put the MODIFY VSWITCH GRANT statements in SYSTEM CONFIG
instead
 of using CP SET VSWITCH GRANT from the profile of AUTOLOG1. This saved
me a
 lot of typing yesterday when AUTOLOG1 didn't start forcing me to
manually
 start the Controller service machines (still researching why AUTOLOG1
didn't
 start). You do make mention of configuring access to the switch through
CP
 SET VSWITCH but not through MODIFY. Do you see a disadvantage to making
use
 of MODIFY from SYSTEM CONFIG in this manner?


The SYSTEM CONFIG file is the better place to grant access.

Regards,
Miguel Diaz
Staff Software Engineer
TCP/IP for z/VM

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/21/2004 at 11:54 AST, Miguel Diaz/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The SYSTEM CONFIG file is the better place to grant access.

Until, of course, you get z/VM 5.1.  Then you'll use your ESM (e.g. RACF)
to grant access!!

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-21 Thread James Melin
At what point did it become optional to specify a port name?




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On Friday, 05/21/2004 at 11:54 AST, Miguel Diaz/Endicott/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The SYSTEM CONFIG file is the better place to grant access.

Until, of course, you get z/VM 5.1.  Then you'll use your ESM (e.g. RACF)
to grant access!!

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-21 Thread Miguel Diaz
OSA microcode level 3.33
Linux Driver 3G EC stream J11204 MCL032
z/VM 4.3 with APARs VM63308 and PQ73878
z/VM 4.4 base

It is still required for z/OS

Regards,
Miguel Diaz
Staff Software Engineer
TCP/IP for z/VM


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 At what point did it become optional to specify a port name?

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-21 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 05/21/2004 at 01:56 EST, James Melin
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 At what point did it become optional to specify a port name?

Since October 1, 2003.

See my post at http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-390.41397

(Also posted to VMESA-L the same day.)

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 13:34, ODOT zSeries Linux wrote:
 If you want to shoot me for being off-topic I'll understand and take my
 punishment. But if anyone is feeling tolerant I'd very much appreciate any
 pointers to White (or Red) paper about configuring a secondary TCPIP stack
 in VM 4.40. I'm getting through it slowly but I'm also getting the feeling
 that I might be making it more difficult than it really is.

You may be, because I don't remember anything being especially tough
about it; you pretty much create a new userid with the same privileges,
duplicate and modify PROFILE TCPIP and TCPIP DTCPARMS, and away you go,
as I recall.  I remember it as being relatively painless.  Where are you
encountering difficulty?

Adam

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-17 Thread Steven . ADAMS
Thanks Adam.  I think my current struggle is in understanding the steps
needed to implement a new service machine running TCPIP and keeping them
seperated. The information on TCPIP config in Planning and Customization is
pretty voluminous and I'm having difficulty creating a task list from it.
It's really just a (my) problem researching these details and I had hoped
there was something like a laundry list of tasks for the VM newbee.

Thanks for the reply though, I think my fears (of making it more difficult
than it is)have just been realized after reading your post. I'll keep
digging, sorry for drifting off-topic.

Steve

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On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 13:34, ODOT zSeries Linux wrote:
 If you want to shoot me for being off-topic I'll understand and take
 my punishment. But if anyone is feeling tolerant I'd very much
 appreciate any pointers to White (or Red) paper about configuring a
 secondary TCPIP stack in VM 4.40. I'm getting through it slowly but
 I'm also getting the feeling that I might be making it more difficult than
it really is.

You may be, because I don't remember anything being especially tough about
it; you pretty much create a new userid with the same privileges, duplicate
and modify PROFILE TCPIP and TCPIP DTCPARMS, and away you go, as I recall.
I remember it as being relatively painless.  Where are you encountering
difficulty?

Adam

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Re: FW: VM TCPIP (A Little Off Topic)

2004-05-17 Thread Vic Cross
On Mon, 17 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think my current struggle is in understanding the steps
 needed to implement a new service machine running TCPIP and keeping them
 seperated.

Steve, I discussed this in the VSWITCH and VLAN Redpaper which you can
find at:

  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp3719.html

I'd be keen to hear what you think of it, so please let me know or use the
feedback e-mail address on the Redbooks site.

Cheers,
Vic Cross

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