Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-18 Thread Mike Ross
My first post on this subject didn't make it through moderation...

You can get a copy from IBM, on their Taiwanese website (the Redbook IS in
English!) - go to:

http://www2.tw.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/techdoc/index.d2w/report

You'll see it listed about four items up from the bottom. Click on it, and a
download process will start, eventually - it's a bit slow.

I've put a copy on my website in case it is 'disappeared' from the Taiwan
site - http://www.corestore.org/sg245944.zip is where to get it, but go easy
- my bandwidth isn't infinite!

Mike
http://www.corestore.org


That's OK, but it's not the final, released version.  That's a preliminary
copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory.  I would really like to
see the final release version.  Anyone else?

Mark Post


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Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-18 Thread Froberg, David C
The availablilty, then disappearance, then pending availability of the UNIX
Tools  Toys web page brings to mind a few thoughts I keep having about
open source and USS.

1) I really appreaciated the website and redbook because it helped
me greatly to get a handle on porting tools to USS.

2) Its disappearance forced me to research and experiment more with
porting to USS since a number of tools at the   website really are very
valuable.

3) The biggest thing that repeatedly struck me, though, was the
static nature of the website's tools.  (And this is NOT
knock against anyone at IBM.  As I said in #1, I greatly appreciated
the site.)  I also work with the Linux world and
and watch frequent notices and then frequent updates for various
tools (Samba for example is at what? 2.2.7a?).  Would   it not be nice to
have some website and process by which the tools were more current?  How
this would be done, not sure.  Have a place in the site for us to
stick more current ports?

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Steve Stiert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


Hi Folks:
I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
Wednesday.

 Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
what you're looking for after that time.

regards,
Steve
 Tools and Toys Website Maintainer



Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Stiert
Hi Folks:
I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
Wednesday.

 Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
what you're looking for after that time.

regards,
Steve
 Tools and Toys Website Maintainer



Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Post
Steve,

Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the
SG24-5944-01 Redbook?

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Steve Stiert
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


Hi Folks:
I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
Wednesday.

 Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
what you're looking for after that time.

regards,
Steve
 Tools and Toys Website Maintainer



Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Lüghausen
Have a look at
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf


 Steve,

 Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the
 SG24-5944-01 Redbook?

 Mark Post

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Steve Stiert
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


 Hi Folks:
 I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
 but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
 Wednesday.

  Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
 what you're looking for after that time.

 regards,
 Steve
  Tools and Toys Website Maintainer




Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Post
That's OK, but it's not the final, released version.  That's a preliminary
copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory.  I would really like to
see the final release version.  Anyone else?

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Michael Lüghausen
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


Have a look at
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf


 Steve,

 Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location) of the
 SG24-5944-01 Redbook?

 Mark Post

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Steve Stiert
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


 Hi Folks:
 I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
 but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
 Wednesday.

  Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
 what you're looking for after that time.

 regards,
 Steve
  Tools and Toys Website Maintainer




Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-17 Thread Michael Lüghausen
It's me again. Maybe i misinterpret it but please have a look inside the
document:
On the coverpage is written: Redbooks
On Redpieces is written: Redpaper
In the impressum is written:
Second Edition (February 2002)


 That's OK, but it's not the final, released version.  That's a prelim
 inary
 copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory.  I would really lik
 e to
 see the final release version.  Anyone else?

 Mark Post

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O
 f
 Michael L|ghausen
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


 Have a look at
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf


  Steve,
 
  Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location)
 of the
  SG24-5944-01 Redbook?
 
  Mark Post
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O
 f
  Steve Stiert
  Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
 
 
  Hi Folks:
  I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
  but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
  Wednesday.
 
   Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
  what you're looking for after that time.
 
  regards,
  Steve
   Tools and Toys Website Maintainer
 




Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked

2002-12-17 Thread Mark Post
That's correct (except the fact that only Redbooks have Redbooks on the
cover).  The final release version of that book was dated March 2002.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Michael Lüghausen
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


It's me again. Maybe i misinterpret it but please have a look inside the
document:
On the coverpage is written: Redbooks
On Redpieces is written: Redpaper
In the impressum is written:
Second Edition (February 2002)


 That's OK, but it's not the final, released version.  That's a prelim
 inary
 copy, hence the redpiece name in the directory.  I would really lik
 e to
 see the final release version.  Anyone else?

 Mark Post

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O
 f
 Michael L|ghausen
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 2:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked


 Have a look at
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/pdfs/sg245944.pdf


  Steve,
 
  Perhaps you'd care to comment on the absence (or present location)
 of the
  SG24-5944-01 Redbook?
 
  Mark Post
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf O
 f
  Steve Stiert
  Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:29 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Yet Another IBM Conspiracy Theory... unmasked
 
 
  Hi Folks:
  I hate to ruin the intrigue of a good conspiracy theory  :-) 
  but the packages should be back online by the end of the day
  Wednesday.
 
   Feel free to contact me if you have don't find
  what you're looking for after that time.
 
  regards,
  Steve
   Tools and Toys Website Maintainer