Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Mark, RU trying to say we are mostly long-winded? If so, can you please call my wife and tell her it isn't just me? Thanks, Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:55 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo On 9/26/2008 at 8:32 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Upon realization of that fact, further argument on the point would seem pedantic and obtuse. That describes about 95% of the people in the IT industry, which is why discussions such as this one go on for so long. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
And here I just thought we were enjoying a little silliness. :) Douglas Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 09/28/2008 04:55:28 PM: [image removed] Re: [LINUX-390] curiosity: pronouncing sudo Mark Post to: LINUX-390 09/28/2008 04:58 PM Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU On 9/26/2008 at 8:32 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Upon realization of that fact, further argument on the point would seem pedantic and obtuse. That describes about 95% of the people in the IT industry, which is why discussions such as this one go on for so long. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
I would tend to agree that IT professionals are given to silliness. After all, we have a penchant for giving cartoon mascots to software projects for no discernible reason other than our own amusement. Erik Johnson On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Wooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And here I just thought we were enjoying a little silliness. :) Douglas Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 09/28/2008 04:55:28 PM: [image removed] Re: [LINUX-390] curiosity: pronouncing sudo Mark Post to: LINUX-390 09/28/2008 04:58 PM Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU On 9/26/2008 at 8:32 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Upon realization of that fact, further argument on the point would seem pedantic and obtuse. That describes about 95% of the people in the IT industry, which is why discussions such as this one go on for so long. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
On 9/26/2008 at 8:32 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik N Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Upon realization of that fact, further argument on the point would seem pedantic and obtuse. That describes about 95% of the people in the IT industry, which is why discussions such as this one go on for so long. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I counter your 'correct' pronunciation with a WAV file from Linus Torvalds. Let him decide ;) http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav -- Shawn D. Wells Lead, Linux on System z [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: +1 443-534-0130 http://www.redhat.com/z/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Shawn Wells wrote: Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I counter your 'correct' pronunciation with a WAV file from Linus Torvalds. Let him decide ;) http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav That's the one I referred to. Note how similarly he pronounces Linus and Linux. I don't feel it's necessary to mimic his accent. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
On 09/26/2008 09:03:54 AM, John Summerfield wrote: Shawn Wells wrote: Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I counter your 'correct' pronunciation with a WAV file from Linus Torvalds. Let him decide ;) http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav That's the one I referred to. Note how similarly he pronounces Linus and Linux. I don't have a very good ear for such things, but it sounded to me as though he put more EE stress on his own name than on the kernel. About the only pronunciation I was definitely able to eliminate with that clip was LINE-ix. Douglas -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
I suppose if you listen carefully you hear: LEE-nooks but then not everybody will necessarily agree on how to pronounce what I just wrote. The whole point is that whether you say tuh-MAY-toe or tuh-MAH-toe everybody still knows what you mean. As computational linguistics (and common sense) tells us, no two people pronounce everything exactly the same way. Upon realization of that fact, further argument on the point would seem pedantic and obtuse. Erik Johnson On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Douglas Wooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/26/2008 09:03:54 AM, John Summerfield wrote: Shawn Wells wrote: Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I counter your 'correct' pronunciation with a WAV file from Linus Torvalds. Let him decide ;) http://www.paul.sladen.org/pronunciation/torvalds-says-linux.wav That's the one I referred to. Note how similarly he pronounces Linus and Linux. I don't have a very good ear for such things, but it sounded to me as though he put more EE stress on his own name than on the kernel. About the only pronunciation I was definitely able to eliminate with that clip was LINE-ix. Douglas -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein Stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Considering that sudo stands for super user do (or substitute user do), I agree it would definitely be the latter. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein Stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
I'm not a Linux person, but the guys that pronounce it here that I talk to use the sue dough version. Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:45 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: curiosity: pronouncing sudo Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein Stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I have heard both pronounciations and arguments for each. It is true that it stands for Substitute-User DO but it is also allowing a user to use a psuedonym (I realize this is something of a stretch) It is also worthwhile to note that the SU part comes directly from the utility sudo is intended to replace: su That command has been pronounced 'Es You' by everyody I have ever heard pronounce it, so perhaps it's 'Es You Do' though that also sounds an awful lot like Ef You Dude. Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Erik Johnson On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kielek, Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that sudo stands for super user do (or substitute user do), I agree it would definitely be the latter. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein Stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
LOL, I have never seen so many pronunciations is so few words. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:38 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I have heard both pronounciations and arguments for each. It is true that it stands for Substitute-User DO but it is also allowing a user to use a psuedonym (I realize this is something of a stretch) It is also worthwhile to note that the SU part comes directly from the utility sudo is intended to replace: su That command has been pronounced 'Es You' by everyody I have ever heard pronounce it, so perhaps it's 'Es You Do' though that also sounds an awful lot like Ef You Dude. Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Erik Johnson On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kielek, Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that sudo stands for super user do (or substitute user do), I agree it would definitely be the latter. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein Stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
On 09/24/2008 10:37:33 AM, Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I have heard both pronounciations and arguments for each. It is true that it stands for Substitute-User DO but it is also allowing a user to use a psuedonym (I realize this is something of a stretch) It is also worthwhile to note that the SU part comes directly from the utility sudo is intended to replace: su That command has been pronounced 'Es You' by everyody I have ever heard pronounce it, so perhaps it's 'Es You Do' though that also sounds an awful lot like Ef You Dude. Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Well put. I have a Russian friend whom I think says 'LEE-nukes'. But that raises another question: if you find an icon of an upraised finger, in computer documentation, are you supposed to type 'sudo' ? :) Just so now you can say you've 'heard' everything: my team pronounces 'su root' as sue to ruut. :) Douglas Wooster (Who contemplates using 'sue dough' to access privileged 'tuh-MAY-toes') Erik Johnson On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kielek, Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that sudo stands for super user do (or substitute user do), I agree it would definitely be the latter. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Oh, let's call the whole thing off...8-) --d b -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Yeah, but was your Russian friend really meaning Lee NUKES? LOL K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Wooster Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo On 09/24/2008 10:37:33 AM, Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I have heard both pronounciations and arguments for each. It is true that it stands for Substitute-User DO but it is also allowing a user to use a psuedonym (I realize this is something of a stretch) It is also worthwhile to note that the SU part comes directly from the utility sudo is intended to replace: su That command has been pronounced 'Es You' by everyody I have ever heard pronounce it, so perhaps it's 'Es You Do' though that also sounds an awful lot like Ef You Dude. Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Well put. I have a Russian friend whom I think says 'LEE-nukes'. But that raises another question: if you find an icon of an upraised finger, in computer documentation, are you supposed to type 'sudo' ? :) Just so now you can say you've 'heard' everything: my team pronounces 'su root' as sue to ruut. :) Douglas Wooster (Who contemplates using 'sue dough' to access privileged 'tuh-MAY-toes') Erik Johnson On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kielek, Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that sudo stands for super user do (or substitute user do), I agree it would definitely be the latter. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 09:37 -0500, Erik N Johnson wrote: So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' From the Man himself: http://www.jx90.com/linux.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
On 09/24/2008 11:15:42 AM, Evans, Kevin R asked: Yeah, but was your Russian friend really meaning Lee NUKES? Not unless he was planning to take shameless advantage of the guy -- he said things like use LEE-nukes. :) Hm. Maybe I should ask the pres. of the Rexx Language Association ( http://www.rexxla.org ) if he feels used -- his name is Lee. Douglas LOL K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Wooster Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo On 09/24/2008 10:37:33 AM, Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' I have heard both pronounciations and arguments for each. It is true that it stands for Substitute-User DO but it is also allowing a user to use a psuedonym (I realize this is something of a stretch) It is also worthwhile to note that the SU part comes directly from the utility sudo is intended to replace: su That command has been pronounced 'Es You' by everyody I have ever heard pronounce it, so perhaps it's 'Es You Do' though that also sounds an awful lot like Ef You Dude. Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Well put. I have a Russian friend whom I think says 'LEE-nukes'. But that raises another question: if you find an icon of an upraised finger, in computer documentation, are you supposed to type 'sudo' ? :) Just so now you can say you've 'heard' everything: my team pronounces 'su root' as sue to ruut. :) Douglas Wooster (Who contemplates using 'sue dough' to access privileged 'tuh-MAY-toes') Erik Johnson On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Kielek, Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that sudo stands for super user do (or substitute user do), I agree it would definitely be the latter. -Sam -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo The latter. John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Damn, Lockheed's firewall systems are getting ridiculous in the sites that they ban us from going to, including this one. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:21 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 09:37 -0500, Erik N Johnson wrote: So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' From the Man himself: http://www.jx90.com/linux.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Damn, Lockheed's firewall systems are getting ridiculous in the sites that they ban us from going to, including this one. Your net nanny must be similar to ours. E.g., we can go to Dilbert, but not Doonesbury; more than half the Google hits for Sarbanes Oxley or SOX are blocked for political content or opinion; etc., etc. ad nauseum. It frequently seems to be just arbitrary and capricious as to what it allows or prohibits. -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. I've always used the former, and in this country it does not sound a lot like pseudo. I think if you listen closely, you might hear me pronouces the eand the u in pseudo. However, I learned from reading, not from listening (and if I were listening to an American I'd take no notice of how she pronounced it. I find Americans don't generally pronounce words the way we do, and most likely not the same way as other Americans either!). -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Douglas Wooster wrote: Well put. I have a Russian friend whom I think says 'LEE-nukes'. Given recent developments in Georgia and other places, I'd steer clear of him:-) -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
On 09/24/2008 11:15:42 AM, Evans, Kevin R asked: Yeah, but was your Russian friend really meaning Lee NUKES? Not unless he was planning to take shameless advantage of the guy -- he said things like use LEE-nukes. :) Hm. Maybe I should ask the pres. of the Rexx Language Association ( http://www.rexxla.org ) if he feels used -- his name is Lee. Or whether he knows that the Mandarin word li means the mandate of heaven... 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Erik N Johnson wrote: It is an interesting question. The fact o the matter is that Linux is named after Linus Torvalds. The predominant pronounciations of Linux are: 'LINE-ix' and 'LI-nucks', but the name Linus (in Helsinki at any rate) is pronounced 'LEE-noose'. So the 'correct' pronounciation of Linux should technically be 'LEE-nukes' Iff you're a Fin. The point I take from his explanation (it was used for a while as a sound bite for testing RHs sound setup) is that Linux should sound fairly like Linus. I have heard both pronounciations and arguments for each. It is true that it stands for Substitute-User DO but it is also allowing a user to use a psuedonym (I realize this is something of a stretch) It is also worthwhile to note that the SU part comes directly from the utility sudo is intended to replace: su That command has been pronounced 'Es You' by everyody I have ever heard pronounce it, so perhaps it's 'Es You Do' though that also sounds an awful lot like Ef You Dude. Ultimately I think it's really more 'tuh-MAY-toe' vs. 'tuh-MAH-toe'. Some of you will have heard of CICS? Here, in .au, it's generally pronounced Kicks. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Some of you will have heard of CICS? Here, in .au, it's generally pronounced Kicks. Well if it was pronounced the other some people would confuse it with vi... Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
Certainly NOT the way us Brits do! LOL K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo John McKown wrote: Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. I've always used the former, and in this country it does not sound a lot like pseudo. I think if you listen closely, you might hear me pronouces the eand the u in pseudo. However, I learned from reading, not from listening (and if I were listening to an American I'd take no notice of how she pronounced it. I find Americans don't generally pronounce words the way we do, and most likely not the same way as other Americans either!). -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
When they first implemented this thing (whatever it is), I couldn't even get to the CICS Wiki or the C/Trek websites. Typical overkill. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:02 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Damn, Lockheed's firewall systems are getting ridiculous in the sites that they ban us from going to, including this one. Your net nanny must be similar to ours. E.g., we can go to Dilbert, but not Doonesbury; more than half the Google hits for Sarbanes Oxley or SOX are blocked for political content or opinion; etc., etc. ad nauseum. It frequently seems to be just arbitrary and capricious as to what it allows or prohibits. -jc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: curiosity: pronouncing sudo
I pronounce it sue dough, but then, I also pronounce SQL as squeal, not sequel. My pronunciation for GDDM, G*dd*mn, never caught on, either. Dennis O'Brien We are Borg of America. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 06:45 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: curiosity: pronouncing sudo Is it sue dough (like pseudo) or sue do? I always did the latter, but people around here seem to like the first. And I get confused (as usual) as to whether they mean sudo or pseudo. -- Q: What do theoretical physicists drink beer from? A: Ein Stein. Maranatha! John McKown -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
