Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-15 Thread David Boyes
 Anyone use this to manage their z/OS or VSE source code / JCL?

No reason not to. One caveat is that subversion does not have any
concept of record structure, so if the source you ask it to manage
depends on having card images available (eg, real RECFM F/LRECL 80 type
stuff), you'll have to make sure of that in some other way. It is smart
enough to save blanks if you insert them before checking things in, so
you can get the effect you want with a minimum of hassle. 

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-14 Thread McKown, John
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 Frank Swarbrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Anyone use this to manage their z/OS or VSE source code / JCL?
 
 
  Frank,
 
Not only can you manage your z/OS or VSE code there, but
   using our tools on Linux/390, you can actually build your
   software there and simply make the load-modules available.
 
In fact, you could do this on an x86 Linux box, or even
   Windows, HPUX, Solaris, etc...
 
   - Dave Rivers -

Ah, assuming the z/OS software is C/C++ or HLASM only. Most z/OS shops
are still like 99.9% (SWAG) COBOL. Is there a z/Linux COBOL cross
compiler which is compatable with IBM's Enterprise COBOL?

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-14 Thread Thomas David Rivers
McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Frank,
 
 Not only can you manage your z/OS or VSE code there, but
using our tools on Linux/390, you can actually build your
software there and simply make the load-modules available.
 
 In fact, you could do this on an x86 Linux box, or even
Windows, HPUX, Solaris, etc...
 
  - Dave Rivers -

 Ah, assuming the z/OS software is C/C++ or HLASM only. Most z/OS shops
 are still like 99.9% (SWAG) COBOL. Is there a z/Linux COBOL cross
 compiler which is compatable with IBM's Enterprise COBOL?

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Yes - that is certainly true.

I was actually thinking more along the lines of HLASM.  It seems
a vastly significant portion of z/OS software is HLASM.

COBOL will always remain very interesting...

- Dave Rivers -

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-14 Thread McKown, John
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 Yes - that is certainly true.
 
 I was actually thinking more along the lines of HLASM.  It seems
 a vastly significant portion of z/OS software is HLASM.
 
 COBOL will always remain very interesting...
 
   - Dave Rivers -

Hum, I wouldn't have thought that HLASM was very significant in
applications type programming at all. Of course, being a bit
twiddler, HLASM is my language of choice on the z/OS system. And I
guess that you're talking about OEM software. I think you're 100% on
target for that. Likely because IBM is bogarting the PL/X compiler (or
whatever it is called now).

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-14 Thread Frank Swarbrick
C / C++ and ASM, right, not COBOL?
Does sound interesting, though.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/13/06 6:20 PM 
Frank Swarbrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone use this to manage their z/OS or VSE source code / JCL?


 Frank,

   Not only can you manage your z/OS or VSE code there, but
  using our tools on Linux/390, you can actually build your
  software there and simply make the load-modules available.

   In fact, you could do this on an x86 Linux box, or even
  Windows, HPUX, Solaris, etc...

- Dave Rivers -

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/07/06 8:06 PM 
If your users are willing to work with it, it's a great idea and
you've
already done the hard part (getting them to use the CM system in the
first place).

The subversion code works great in this environment, and it's
typically
a low-impact application, so it's a good choice for consolidation.

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates


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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-13 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Anyone use this to manage their z/OS or VSE source code / JCL?

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/07/06 8:06 PM 
If your users are willing to work with it, it's a great idea and
you've
already done the hard part (getting them to use the CM system in the
first place).

The subversion code works great in this environment, and it's
typically
a low-impact application, so it's a good choice for consolidation.

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Frank Swarbrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone use this to manage their z/OS or VSE source code / JCL?


 Frank,

   Not only can you manage your z/OS or VSE code there, but
  using our tools on Linux/390, you can actually build your
  software there and simply make the load-modules available.

   In fact, you could do this on an x86 Linux box, or even
  Windows, HPUX, Solaris, etc...

- Dave Rivers -

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/07/06 8:06 PM 
If your users are willing to work with it, it's a great idea and
you've
already done the hard part (getting them to use the CM system in the
first place).

The subversion code works great in this environment, and it's
typically
a low-impact application, so it's a good choice for consolidation.

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates


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Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-07 Thread Jean-Marc Auprix

Hi folks,

Subversion is a great replacement to CVS and runs very well (including the
web interface) on our SLES9 - z/VM 5.2 on a z/890 with SAN storage.
Since the department I am working with has a lot of wintel and Unix servers
running CVS repositories, there has been some interest in  using Linux/390
to consolidate these servers by using Subversion or some other CM software.

Users have been very impressed with the availability and stability of the
Linux/390 solutions already in place when compared with other technologies
(no big surprise ;-) ).


Has anyone done this before on a large scale? Is it a worthwhile idea to
pursue?
Thanks for any ideas/suggestions.

Jean-Marc Auprix

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-07 Thread Post, Mark K
While I haven't done it on a large scale, I would say it's worthwhile to
pursue.  (Coincidentally enough, I just got done compiling the 1.3.2
version for my 64-bit Slack/390 development system.)  Consolidating
multiple systems down to one (or a few) is a pretty good way to save
people time.


Mark Post

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Subject: Subversion on SLES9

Hi folks,

Subversion is a great replacement to CVS and runs very well (including
the
web interface) on our SLES9 - z/VM 5.2 on a z/890 with SAN storage.
Since the department I am working with has a lot of wintel and Unix
servers
running CVS repositories, there has been some interest in  using
Linux/390
to consolidate these servers by using Subversion or some other CM
software.

Users have been very impressed with the availability and stability of
the
Linux/390 solutions already in place when compared with other
technologies
(no big surprise ;-) ).


Has anyone done this before on a large scale? Is it a worthwhile idea to
pursue?
Thanks for any ideas/suggestions.

Jean-Marc Auprix

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Re: Subversion on SLES9

2006-09-07 Thread David Boyes
If your users are willing to work with it, it's a great idea and you've
already done the hard part (getting them to use the CM system in the
first place). 

The subversion code works great in this environment, and it's typically
a low-impact application, so it's a good choice for consolidation. 

David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates

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