Re: USER DIRECT file "USE" ?@ word displayed.
Two things I learned way back on SP1 were; Don't make volumes CP-owned
unless they need to be, and don't change the file *type*. This is the
source of the confusion here.
When the file type is DIRECT then XEDIT will set the config to not
display the sequence area, and other things. In this case the file type
has been changed so XEDIT is treating it as just a general 80 character
file, and line wrap is the result.
Mr. mainframe_s390 really needs to get some VM-101 training. It will
save him a lot of pain and agony and eliminate a lot of his confusion.
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Use the COPYFILE command to copy the CMS file to another name, and download
the copy using FTP or some other transfer method. What you are seeing in
columns 72 to 80 are sequence numbers on the virtual cards in the file.
> Please teach me.
> I want to copy USER DIRECT file for backup.
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Re: USER DIRECT file "USE" word displayed.
> I want to delete column 73-80 zone 73 80 :1 c///* file Then be sure 'set serial off' is in your PROFILE XEDIT and they won't come back. "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"@ word displayed.
> When I make the backup file of USER DIRECT, the column 72-80 > of original USER DIRECT file comes to the column > 10-18 next line of backup USER DIRECT file. How are you making the copy? COPYFILE doesn't care about columns. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"@ word displayed.
Use the COPYFILE command to copy the CMS file to another name, and download the copy using FTP or some other transfer method. What you are seeing in columns 72 to 80 are sequence numbers on the virtual cards in the file. > Please teach me. > I want to copy USER DIRECT file for backup. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"?@ word displayed.
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Neale Ferguson > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:02 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"?@ word displayed. > > Then stuff in cols 73-80 should stay in cols 73-80. What does L USER > DIRBK * (D report? > > -Original Message- > I make the backup file on filelist screen. > COPY / USER DIRBK A command on using USER DIRECT file > line.(Please see below.) > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO > LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > I *think* I know what this guy's problem is... When he edits his user direct, good ole Xedit's default settings for 'direct' is basically 'V 1 72'.. Right.. The SERIALS are here, but they don't show. When he edits "USER DIRBK" things are a bit different, since X cannot assume anything about a filetype of 'DIRBK' (and certainly not whether cols 73-80 are to be shown/hidden) - Xedit shows those info.. Since this guy is probably using a 80 col display terminal (that is, not a Model 5), and since this guy seems to have line prefixes on - preventing the whole 80 columns to show on a single line, xedit wraps the lines, giving the *impression* the serials are on different lines.. Dear Mr 'mainframe-s390', do not worry about these informations showing differently when the file is named 'USER DIRBK'.. These informations are here ALREADY in the first place (if you want to make sure, edit you user direct, and type "V 1 80"), they just do not show when the file is named 'USER DIRECT'.. After issuing your COPY command, the resulting file will be in all points IDENTICAL to the original file... Attempting to remove them does not serve any purpose (except making your backup file *different* from the file you are trying to backup).. Besides, should you wish to have an directory update policy using SIDs, you would loose the information. The final point is : because it shows differently when it's named USER DIRBK doesn't mean it is not identical to the original file. Now - if you don't really feel comfortable with manipulating the user directory yourself, you may want to look into using DIRMAINT as an alternative (it will do the backups for you too !) HTH, --Ivan (PS : What does this have to do with Linux ?) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"?@ word displayed.
Then stuff in cols 73-80 should stay in cols 73-80. What does L USER DIRBK * (D report? -Original Message- I make the backup file on filelist screen. COPY / USER DIRBK A command on using USER DIRECT file line.(Please see below.) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE" word displayed.
I make the backup file on filelist screen. COPY / USER DIRBK A command on using USER DIRECT file line.(Please see below.) USER DIRBK file name is backup file name. MAINTFILELIST A0 V 169 Trunc=169 Size=6 Line=1 Col=1 Alt=0 Cmd Filename Filetype Fm Format LreclRecords Blocks Date Time COPY / USER DIRBK A T C1 F 80 2740 54 6/29/05 19:25:35 USER DIRECTX C1 F 80 1901 38 4/11/05 11:57:37 USER DIRECTH A1 F 80 1897 38 4/11/05 10:12:38 USER DIRECT97 A1 F 80 1870 37 4/05/05 17:30:41 USER DIRECT98 A1 F 80 1791 35 4/01/05 15:19:56 USER DIRECT99 A1 F 80 1791 35 4/01/05 10:57:04 1= Help 2= Refresh 3= Quit 4= Sort(type) 5= Sort(date) 6= Sort(size) 7= Backward 8= Forward 9= FL /n 10= Share 11= XEDIT/LIST 12= Cursor > X E D I T 1 File Thank you. - K.M. __ Save the earth http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ondanka/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"?@ word displayed.
How are u making the backup?? -Original Message- When I make the backup file of USER DIRECT, the column 72-80 of original USER DIRECT file comes to the column 10-18 next line of backup USER DIRECT file. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE" word displayed.
Thank you for reply again. When I make the backup file of USER DIRECT, the column 72-80 of original USER DIRECT file comes to the column 10-18 next line of backup USER DIRECT file. So I want to delete column 72-80 of original USER DIRECT. Please teach me again. Thank you - K.M. __ Save the earth http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ondanka/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"?@ word displayed.
You don't need to delete it. The DIRECTXA/DIRMAINT etc. will ignore it. V 1 72 is an XEDIT command that says to "VERIFY" columns 1 through 72 (i.e. only show these columns while editting). If you also enter "SET SERIAL ALL" or "SET SERIAL ON" XEDIT will take care of automatically updating the serial number columns for you. -Original Message- Thank you for reply. Please teach me again. I want to delete column 73-80 when the USER DIRECT file.(as the backup file of USER DIRECT) >Just type in v 1 72 on the XEDIT command line >(or add it to your PROFILE XEDIT). Is this command XEDIT command? (Please tell me the name and page of manual.) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE" word displayed.
Thank you for reply. Please teach me again. I want to delete column 73-80 when the USER DIRECT file.(as the backup file of USER DIRECT) >Just type in v 1 72 on the XEDIT command line >(or add it to your PROFILE XEDIT). Is this command XEDIT command? (Please tell me the name and page of manual.) Thank you. - K.M. __ Save the earth http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ondanka/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: USER DIRECT file "USE"?@ word displayed.
What your seeing is the "sequence number" column. It's a throwback to the days of the card deck where you'd put a sequence number in columns 73-80 so that if you spilled the deck the sequence could be restored. These columns are ignored by the DIRECT program (as they are by various compilers and assemblers). Just type in v 1 72 on the XEDIT command line (or add it to your PROFILE XEDIT). -Original Message- Hi, all Please teach me. I want to copy USER DIRECT file for backup. But, when I edit USER DIRECT file, "USE" word is displayed in all line.(below the USER DIRECT file) Please teach me the way of solution. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
USER DIRECT file "USE" word displayed.
Hi, all Please teach me. I want to copy USER DIRECT file for backup. But, when I edit USER DIRECT file, "USE" word is displayed in all line.(below the USER DIRECT file) Please teach me the way of solution. USER DIRECT C1 F 80 Trunc=72 Size=2308 Line=0 Col=1 Alt=0 0 * * * Top of File * * * 1 * USE00010 2 1.0 SYSTEM DIRECTORY * USE00020 3 * USE00030 4 * USE00040 5 RESSES 123 THROUGH 133 ARE VIRTUAL ADDRESSES. * USE00050 6 * USE00060 7 * USE00070 8 R THESE ARE ONLY VIRTUAL ADDRESSES NOT REAL * USE00080 9 ES, SO THERE IS NO NEED TO CHANGE THEM TO MATCH * USE00090 00010 RDWARE ADDRESSES. * USE00100 00011 * USE00110 00012 * USE00120 00013 * USE00130 00014 * USE00140 00015 ESCRIPTION OF DIRECTORY STATEMENTS SEE: * USE00150 00016 NTERPRISE SYSTEM ARCHITECTURE * USE00160 00017 NING AND ADMINISTRATION MANUAL. * USE00170 00018 * USE00180 00019 * USE00190 00020 USE00200 > - K.M. __ Save the earth http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ondanka/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
