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On Monday, 10/14/2019 at 03:14 GMT, Joe Monk wrote: > To further Alans point, this manual is loaded with references to "i390": > > http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247748.pdf IMO, that book should never have been published in that form, mashing together the IBM internal use and customer external use of the HMC. Hex patching? Cloning? Please. But, still, an very good book for understanding basic concepts of the HMC and its interaction with PR/SM. Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM Systems Lab Services IBM Z Delivery Practice ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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I used to have Ford Galaxy "XL500" I liked that name. The car not so much. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:13 PM Alan Altmark wrote: > On Monday, 10/14/2019 at 04:57 GMT, Michael MacIsaac > > wrote: > > Shoulda been 's390z'. IIRC it was decided less than a year before the > > mainframe got rebranded to 'z'. > > Think of s390x and "s390 with extensions", a la 370/XA. The external > marketing term "z/Architecture" was very late. Based on the internal > technical name of the architecture, I would suggest just taking the "x" > and running with it. > > Personally, I think they should have added 30 more degrees (360+10=370, > 370+20=390, 390+30=420) and had S/420, but that's weird and too easily > confused with AS/400. So add 110 degrees and make it S/500? Eeew. I > know, right? Gotta have the '3'? So maybe just add 1 and have S/391. > Drats. Can't have an odd number, so S/392. Eeew**2. No wonder they > called it "z/Architecture". Why number it when you can name it? > > Alan Altmark > > Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant > IBM Systems Lab Services > IBM Z Delivery Practice > ibm.com/systems/services/labservices > office: 607.429.3323 > mobile; 607.321.7556 > alan_altm...@us.ibm.com > IBM Endicott > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com
On Monday, 10/14/2019 at 04:57 GMT, Michael MacIsaac wrote: > Shoulda been 's390z'. IIRC it was decided less than a year before the > mainframe got rebranded to 'z'. Think of s390x and "s390 with extensions", a la 370/XA. The external marketing term "z/Architecture" was very late. Based on the internal technical name of the architecture, I would suggest just taking the "x" and running with it. Personally, I think they should have added 30 more degrees (360+10=370, 370+20=390, 390+30=420) and had S/420, but that's weird and too easily confused with AS/400. So add 110 degrees and make it S/500? Eeew. I know, right? Gotta have the '3'? So maybe just add 1 and have S/391. Drats. Can't have an odd number, so S/392. Eeew**2. No wonder they called it "z/Architecture". Why number it when you can name it? Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM Systems Lab Services IBM Z Delivery Practice ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Shoulda been 's390z'. IIRC it was decided less than a year before the mainframe got rebranded to 'z'. -Mike On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:48 PM Rick Troth wrote: > On 10/14/19 8:03 AM, James Tison wrote: > > ... > > 390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came > on > > board, and it seems to be the ID "with legs". In modern terms, i390 means > > nothing (unless someone would care to revive it), s390 means XA, s390x > > still means z/Architecture as it always has. > > > > You're right. The s390x tag isn't used much outside of GNU/Linux & BSD > > circles. Too bad. I think it's a very convenient shorthand (not to > mention > > 10 characters' less typing to do), YMMV :-) > > > I've been seeing "s390x" (and occasionally "s390") in USS regularly. > Probably *did* originate with Linux, but works. > > > -- R; <>< > > > > > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- -Mike MacIsaac -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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On 10/14/19 8:03 AM, James Tison wrote: > ... > 390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came on > board, and it seems to be the ID "with legs". In modern terms, i390 means > nothing (unless someone would care to revive it), s390 means XA, s390x > still means z/Architecture as it always has. > > You're right. The s390x tag isn't used much outside of GNU/Linux & BSD > circles. Too bad. I think it's a very convenient shorthand (not to mention > 10 characters' less typing to do), YMMV :-) I've been seeing "s390x" (and occasionally "s390") in USS regularly. Probably *did* originate with Linux, but works. -- R; <>< -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Rob van der Heij wrote: >But it’s true that those terms are not used outside Linux on System Z. >Even though zArchitecture isn’t an appealing name. And we don’t hear much about >i390 anymore *ahem* "z/Architecture". IBM considers it to be software, interestingly enough, so it gets the slash. Unless you meant http://zarchitecture.com/, which is even more confusing. ...phsiii (Pedantic Mondays!) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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To further Alans point, this manual is loaded with references to "i390": http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247748.pdf Joe On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:16 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > > The term “i390” has been socialized outside of IBM. It is the name given by > IBM to the micro-architecture underneath S/390 and z/Architecture. It is > the entire set of functions, and their associated instructions, needed to > run the machine. > > Regards, > Alan Altmark > IBM > > > On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:05 AM, James Tison wrote: > > > > Now that I think about it, I don't think there was ever an i390 -- > although > > there was an i370, which died a long time ago (based on the very first > port > > of what was then not yet z/Architecture, s390 took its place when IBM > > decided it'd participate in GNU tools development way back circa > 2000/2001. > > s390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came > on > > board, and it seems to be the ID "with legs". In modern terms, i390 means > > nothing (unless someone would care to revive it), s390 means XA, s390x > > still means z/Architecture as it always has. > > > > You're right. The s390x tag isn't used much outside of GNU/Linux & BSD > > circles. Too bad. I think it's a very convenient shorthand (not to > mention > > 10 characters' less typing to do), YMMV :-) > > > > Jim Tison > > z/TPF Systems Programmer > > IBM Services > > > > > > > > From:Rob van der Heij > > To:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Date:10/13/2019 11:50 > > Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM > >Mainframes - Linux.com > > Sent by:Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > > > But it’s true that those terms are not used outside Linux on System Z. > Even > > though zArchitecture isn’t an appealing name. And we don’t hear much > about > > i390 anymore > > > >> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 15:41, Neale Ferguson > wrote: > >> > >> Yes and still is. If you execute the ubame command it will shows s390x. > >> The arch-specific RPMs all have s390x in the filename. gcc defines > > __s390__ > >> and __s390x__ which cane be used to test if you're (a) on a Z box and > (b) > >> if it's 64 bit. > >> > >> > >> Original message > >> From: Mike Shorkend > >> Date: 10/13/19 09:30 (GMT-05:00) > >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > >> Subject: [LINUX-390] Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM > > Mainframes > >> - Linux.com > >> > >> Interesting article. > >> Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. > >> I don't think that 64bit was ever called 390x, was it? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linux.com_articles_why-2Dlinux-2Ddevelopers-2Dshould-2Dreconsider-2Dibm-2Dmainframes_=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=lU2tlyAch0sUuliDCdeVuwjyt5i3CPHOrPiNRaziObs= > > > > >> > >> -- > >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or > >> visit > >> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > > > > >> > >> -- > >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or > >> visit > >> > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > > > > >> > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=ht
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The term “i390” has been socialized outside of IBM. It is the name given by IBM to the micro-architecture underneath S/390 and z/Architecture. It is the entire set of functions, and their associated instructions, needed to run the machine. Regards, Alan Altmark IBM > On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:05 AM, James Tison wrote: > > Now that I think about it, I don't think there was ever an i390 -- although > there was an i370, which died a long time ago (based on the very first port > of what was then not yet z/Architecture, s390 took its place when IBM > decided it'd participate in GNU tools development way back circa 2000/2001. > s390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came on > board, and it seems to be the ID "with legs". In modern terms, i390 means > nothing (unless someone would care to revive it), s390 means XA, s390x > still means z/Architecture as it always has. > > You're right. The s390x tag isn't used much outside of GNU/Linux & BSD > circles. Too bad. I think it's a very convenient shorthand (not to mention > 10 characters' less typing to do), YMMV :-) > > Jim Tison > z/TPF Systems Programmer > IBM Services > > > > From:Rob van der Heij > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 10/13/2019 11:50 > Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM >Mainframes - Linux.com > Sent by:Linux on 390 Port > > > > But it’s true that those terms are not used outside Linux on System Z. Even > though zArchitecture isn’t an appealing name. And we don’t hear much about > i390 anymore > >> On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 15:41, Neale Ferguson wrote: >> >> Yes and still is. If you execute the ubame command it will shows s390x. >> The arch-specific RPMs all have s390x in the filename. gcc defines > __s390__ >> and __s390x__ which cane be used to test if you're (a) on a Z box and (b) >> if it's 64 bit. >> >> >> ---- Original message ---- >> From: Mike Shorkend >> Date: 10/13/19 09:30 (GMT-05:00) >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Subject: [LINUX-390] Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM > Mainframes >> - Linux.com >> >> Interesting article. >> Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. >> I don't think that 64bit was ever called 390x, was it? >> >> >> >> >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linux.com_articles_why-2Dlinux-2Ddevelopers-2Dshould-2Dreconsider-2Dibm-2Dmainframes_=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=lU2tlyAch0sUuliDCdeVuwjyt5i3CPHOrPiNRaziObs= > >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > >> > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIGaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=XX3LPhXj6Fv4hkzdpbonTd1gcy88ea-vqLQGEWWoD4M=YsmWdiM0Sj2EhBMSZgHLiDHxuXDupOFFXEC1A1S4L-A=H2wHQliGG7zwyr51XetOpIKY3HykYJHH8tlBlfnR9mI= > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 14:05, James Tison wrote: > Now that I think about it, I don't think there was ever an i390 -- although > there was an i370, which died a long time ago (based on the very first port > True, I was thinking of i370. My apologies. I still remember when I made a typo when cross-building GLIBC for i370 and things slowly started to fail on my PC when I replaced the libraries... Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Now that I think about it, I don't think there was ever an i390 -- although there was an i370, which died a long time ago (based on the very first port of what was then not yet z/Architecture, s390 took its place when IBM decided it'd participate in GNU tools development way back circa 2000/2001. s390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came on board, and it seems to be the ID "with legs". In modern terms, i390 means nothing (unless someone would care to revive it), s390 means XA, s390x still means z/Architecture as it always has. You're right. The s390x tag isn't used much outside of GNU/Linux & BSD circles. Too bad. I think it's a very convenient shorthand (not to mention 10 characters' less typing to do), YMMV :-) Jim Tison z/TPF Systems Programmer IBM Services From: Rob van der Heij To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 10/13/2019 11:50 Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com Sent by:Linux on 390 Port But it’s true that those terms are not used outside Linux on System Z. Even though zArchitecture isn’t an appealing name. And we don’t hear much about i390 anymore On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 15:41, Neale Ferguson wrote: > Yes and still is. If you execute the ubame command it will shows s390x. > The arch-specific RPMs all have s390x in the filename. gcc defines __s390__ > and __s390x__ which cane be used to test if you're (a) on a Z box and (b) > if it's 64 bit. > > > Original message > From: Mike Shorkend > Date: 10/13/19 09:30 (GMT-05:00) > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: [LINUX-390] Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes > - Linux.com > > Interesting article. > Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. > I don't think that 64bit was ever called 390x, was it? > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.linux.com_articles_why-2Dlinux-2Ddevelopers-2Dshould-2Dreconsider-2Dibm-2Dmainframes_=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=lU2tlyAch0sUuliDCdeVuwjyt5i3CPHOrPiNRaziObs= > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www2.marist.edu_htbin_wlvindex-3FLINUX-2D390=DwIFaQ=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg=5dDoM057-adexkKoqfLbqdQAVPjy9hL8XFaaIjvKcCY=465kKRLkemFqHaf_U9DL1laG_JyfvX1wf-HvO_G3mWs=003CiRHiLgc5zeiJZIiEPXU7oY7YJ2iwF8j5Og2H4kU= -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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But it’s true that those terms are not used outside Linux on System Z. Even though zArchitecture isn’t an appealing name. And we don’t hear much about i390 anymore On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 15:41, Neale Ferguson wrote: > Yes and still is. If you execute the ubame command it will shows s390x. > The arch-specific RPMs all have s390x in the filename. gcc defines __s390__ > and __s390x__ which cane be used to test if you're (a) on a Z box and (b) > if it's 64 bit. > > > Original message > From: Mike Shorkend > Date: 10/13/19 09:30 (GMT-05:00) > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: [LINUX-390] Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes > - Linux.com > > Interesting article. > Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. > I don't think that 64bit was ever called 390x, was it? > > > > > https://www.linux.com/articles/why-linux-developers-should-reconsider-ibm-mainframes/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Yes and still is. If you execute the ubame command it will shows s390x. The arch-specific RPMs all have s390x in the filename. gcc defines __s390__ and __s390x__ which cane be used to test if you're (a) on a Z box and (b) if it's 64 bit. Original message From: Mike Shorkend Date: 10/13/19 09:30 (GMT-05:00) To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com Interesting article. Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. I don't think that 64bit was ever called 390x, was it? https://www.linux.com/articles/why-linux-developers-should-reconsider-ibm-mainframes/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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Interesting article. Cross posted to IBM-MAIN and LINUX-390. I don't think that 64bit was ever called 390x, was it? https://www.linux.com/articles/why-linux-developers-should-reconsider-ibm-mainframes/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390