Why not nagios? was Re: netsaint per redbook ?
I'm not sure if this should be brought up, but why waste your time on Netsaint? It's a dead product. Ethan is no longer developing it. If you want systems monitoring, look at his new product - nagios. There are a bunch others out there, and I'm sure they would all run under Linux for S/390. MON Ganglia Big Brother and a few others, all pretty much can get the job done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/02 00:35 AM Well, then I guess the next step is to look at the error log, probably in /var/log/httpd/error.log (or error_log). Also try out Daniel Casey's recommendation to make the alias be /netsaint instead of /netsaint/. Sometimes it's useful to request a file you KNOW doesn't exist - it can provoke a message that tells you precisely where Apache thinks you mean it to look. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: netsaint per redbook ? This is under SLES 7.2 and yes I did a rcapache restart. The files are in the same filesystem. I have to believe there is something in the apache setup but I don't know where to look. I also followed the info in the SHARE Linux hands-on-lab for SuSE to setup apache. And I am not running the firewall. thx Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/23/2002 01:55:46 PM: Lionel, Did you restart Apache after updating httpd.conf? Are the netsaint directories on the same file system as Apache's files? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM To: LINUX-390VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: netsaint per redbook ? I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition. == If you don't like being told you're wrong, be right!
Re: netsaint per redbook ?
When connecting to localhost, you are connecting from your linux system? Or when you said localhost, was that a euphamism for the actual hostname? If your alias is Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ Then http://localhost/netsaint will yeild different results than http://localhost/netsaint/ ~Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: Why not nagios? was Re: netsaint per redbook ?
I've deployed Big Brother at Grede and it is a very good watchdog for network machines, virtual machines and services. I've also written a big brother client for VM (which needs updating... :( ). On Wednesday 24 April 2002 06:08 am, you wrote: I'm not sure if this should be brought up, but why waste your time on Netsaint? It's a dead product. Ethan is no longer developing it. If you want systems monitoring, look at his new product - nagios. There are a bunch others out there, and I'm sure they would all run under Linux for S/390. MON Ganglia Big Brother and a few others, all pretty much can get the job done... -- Rich Smrcina Sytek Services, Inc. Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: netsaint per redbook ?
Tried accessing http://localhost/netsaint/ and got the login prompt. Tried using the userid/pw that I created using htpasswd command it won't take. Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/24/2002 04:18:45 AM: When connecting to localhost, you are connecting from your linux system? Or when you said localhost, was that a euphamism for the actual hostname? If your alias is Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ Then http://localhost/netsaint will yeild different results than http://localhost/netsaint/ ~Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: netsaint per redbook ?
in the error log I'm seeing: syslbd: not a valid FDN: /netsaint/ yet I've defined syslbd to htpasswd and given it a password that I am using ? Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/23/2002 08:47:29 PM: Well, then I guess the next step is to look at the error log, probably in /var/log/httpd/error.log (or error_log). Also try out Daniel Casey's recommendation to make the alias be /netsaint instead of /netsaint/. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: netsaint per redbook ? This is under SLES 7.2 and yes I did a rcapache restart. The files are in the same filesystem. I have to believe there is something in the apache setup but I don't know where to look. I also followed the info in the SHARE Linux hands-on-lab for SuSE to setup apache. And I am not running the firewall. thx Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/23/2002 01:55:46 PM: Lionel, Did you restart Apache after updating httpd.conf? Are the netsaint directories on the same file system as Apache's files? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: netsaint per redbook ? I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: Why not nagios? was Re: netsaint per redbook ?
Here are links to some of the Netsaint-like products out there. Nagios - http://www.nagios.org/ MON - http://ftp.kernel.org/software/mon/ Ganglia - http://ganglia.sourceforge.net/index.php BigBrother - http://bb4.com/ Snips - http://www.netplex-tech.com/software/snips/ NetVigil (commercial version of Snips actually) - http://www.fidelia.com/solutions/nocol-faq.phtml I know you only asked for a few, but I thought of a few others I've installed or dealt with in the time I've been doing network management. They are all very good choices and, IMHO, just as good if not better than some of the more expensive commercial offerings out there. Paul -Original Message- From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why not nagios? was Re: netsaint per redbook ? I'm not sure if this should be brought up, but why waste your time on Netsaint? It's a dead product. Ethan is no longer developing it. If you want systems monitoring, look at his new product - nagios. There are a bunch others out there, and I'm sure they would all run under Linux for S/390. MON Ganglia Big Brother and a few others, all pretty much can get the job done... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/24/02 00:35 AM Well, then I guess the next step is to look at the error log, probably in /var/log/httpd/error.log (or error_log). Also try out Daniel Casey's recommendation to make the alias be /netsaint instead of /netsaint/. Sometimes it's useful to request a file you KNOW doesn't exist - it can provoke a message that tells you precisely where Apache thinks you mean it to look. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: netsaint per redbook ? This is under SLES 7.2 and yes I did a rcapache restart. The files are in the same filesystem. I have to believe there is something in the apache setup but I don't know where to look. I also followed the info in the SHARE Linux hands-on-lab for SuSE to setup apache. And I am not running the firewall. thx Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/23/2002 01:55:46 PM: Lionel, Did you restart Apache after updating httpd.conf? Are the netsaint directories on the same file system as Apache's files? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM To: LINUX-390VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: netsaint per redbook ? I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition. == If you don't like being told you're wrong, be right!
Re: Why not nagios? was Re: netsaint per redbook ?
Here are links to some of the Netsaint-like products out there. Nagios - http://www.nagios.org/ MON - http://ftp.kernel.org/software/mon/ Ganglia - http://ganglia.sourceforge.net/index.php BigBrother - http://bb4.com/ Snips - http://www.netplex-tech.com/software/snips/ NetVigil (commercial version of Snips actually) - http://www.fidelia.com/solutions/nocol-faq.phtml I know you only asked for a few, but I thought of a few others I've installed or dealt with in the time I've been doing network management. They are all very good choices and, IMHO, just as good if not better than some of the more expensive commercial offerings out there. It's worth mentioning that webmin has the ability to monitor things too, and can run specific commands when they arise. webmin is more than just a monito. Take a look at it at www.webmin.com Note that webmin IS free - don't be put off by the dot-com address. www.webmin.org is something else. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition. == If you don't like being told you're wrong, be right!
netsaint per redbook ?
I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: netsaint per redbook ?
Lionel, Did you restart Apache after updating httpd.conf? Are the netsaint directories on the same file system as Apache's files? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: netsaint per redbook ? I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: netsaint per redbook ?
This is under SLES 7.2 and yes I did a rcapache restart. The files are in the same filesystem. I have to believe there is something in the apache setup but I don't know where to look. I also followed the info in the SHARE Linux hands-on-lab for SuSE to setup apache. And I am not running the firewall. thx Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/23/2002 01:55:46 PM: Lionel, Did you restart Apache after updating httpd.conf? Are the netsaint directories on the same file system as Apache's files? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Lionel Dyck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: netsaint per redbook ? I am using the Linux on IBM zSeries and S/390 ISP/ASP Solutions to guide me and I have done everything in the chapter on installing netsaint and configuring apache and when I connect to http://localhost/netsaint I am told that: The requested URL /netsaint was not found on this server. This is my first foray into apache. The two statements in the httpd.conf per the pub are: Alias /netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/share/ ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/netsaint/ /usr/local/netsaint/bin/ Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
