timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

2013-05-17 Thread Michael MacIsaac
I'm hacking around with CPU utilization numbers from /proc/stat with this
little script:

# cat getticks
#!/bin/bash
  echo getting one set of data
  statOut1=`egrep '^cpu ' /proc/stat`
  echo sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
  sleep 5
  statOut2=`egrep '^cpu ' /proc/stat`
  nums1=`echo $statOut1 | grep ^cpu | sed -e 's/cpu\s*//g' -e 's/ /+/g'`
  let sum1=$nums1
  nums2=`echo $statOut2 | grep ^cpu | sed -e 's/cpu\s*//g' -e 's/ /+/g'`
  let sum2=$nums2
  let totalTicks=$sum2-$sum1
  echo statOut1 = $statOut1
  echo statOut2 = $statOut2
  echo nums1 = $nums1
  echo nums2 = $nums2
  echo totalTicks = $totalTicks


On a SLES 11 SP2 system, with 5 vCPUs, I get the expected output:

# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  251 8 170 857508 145 2 7 32 0 0
statOut2 = cpu  251 8 170 860009 145 2 7 32 0 0
nums1 = 251+8+170+857508+145+2+7+32+0+0
nums2 = 251+8+170+860009+145+2+7+32+0+0
totalTicks = 2501

2501 ~= 5 seconds * 5 CPUs * 100 ticks/sec

On a RHEL 6.3 system (2 vCPUs), I get a *slightly* different number:

# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  13059 57057 56528 4 0 2740 3152 3130 0
statOut2 = cpu  13059 57057 56529 4 0 2740 3152 3130 0
nums1 = 13059+57057+56528+4+0+2740+3152+3130+0
nums2 = 13059+57057+56529+4+0+2740+3152+3130+0
totalTicks = 1

HUH? Does RHEL not count ticks in /proc/stat?

Any help will be appreciated.

Mike MacIsaac mikemac at-sign us.ibm.com

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Re: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

2013-05-17 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
Interesting because when I ran the same script on a RHEL 5.9 guest (w/ 2 
vCPUs), we get:

./gettricks.sh
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  60259 128520 96523 256447792 415684 8000 15453 134955
statOut2 = cpu  60259 128520 96524 256448793 415686 8000 15453 134955
nums1 = 60259+128520+96523+256447792+415684+8000+15453+134955
nums2 = 60259+128520+96524+256448793+415686+8000+15453+134955
totalTicks = 1004

Do not have a RHEL  6.3 system to compare with :-(. 

James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux
Base Technologies, a CA Technologies Company
Supporting the zSeries Platform Team
 


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael 
MacIsaac
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:30 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

I'm hacking around with CPU utilization numbers from /proc/stat with this 
little script:

# cat getticks
#!/bin/bash
  echo getting one set of data
  statOut1=`egrep '^cpu ' /proc/stat`
  echo sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
  sleep 5
  statOut2=`egrep '^cpu ' /proc/stat`
  nums1=`echo $statOut1 | grep ^cpu | sed -e 's/cpu\s*//g' -e 's/ /+/g'`
  let sum1=$nums1
  nums2=`echo $statOut2 | grep ^cpu | sed -e 's/cpu\s*//g' -e 's/ /+/g'`
  let sum2=$nums2
  let totalTicks=$sum2-$sum1
  echo statOut1 = $statOut1
  echo statOut2 = $statOut2
  echo nums1 = $nums1
  echo nums2 = $nums2
  echo totalTicks = $totalTicks


On a SLES 11 SP2 system, with 5 vCPUs, I get the expected output:

# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  251 8 170 857508 145 2 7 32 0 0
statOut2 = cpu  251 8 170 860009 145 2 7 32 0 0
nums1 = 251+8+170+857508+145+2+7+32+0+0
nums2 = 251+8+170+860009+145+2+7+32+0+0
totalTicks = 2501

2501 ~= 5 seconds * 5 CPUs * 100 ticks/sec

On a RHEL 6.3 system (2 vCPUs), I get a *slightly* different number:

# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  13059 57057 56528 4 0 2740 3152 3130 0
statOut2 = cpu  13059 57057 56529 4 0 2740 3152 3130 0
nums1 = 13059+57057+56528+4+0+2740+3152+3130+0
nums2 = 13059+57057+56529+4+0+2740+3152+3130+0
totalTicks = 1

HUH? Does RHEL not count ticks in /proc/stat?

Any help will be appreciated.

Mike MacIsaac mikemac at-sign us.ibm.com

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Re: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

2013-05-17 Thread Emmett O'Grady
RHEL 6.4

cat /etc/redhat-release;./getticks.sh
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.4 (Santiago)

getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  31860 18874 14917 835252 84240 869 1430 8480 0
statOut2 = cpu  31869 18874 14924 836234 84242 869 1430 8481 0
nums1 = 31860+18874+14917+835252+84240+869+1430+8480+0
nums2 = 31869+18874+14924+836234+84242+869+1430+8481+0
totalTicks = 1001




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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of CHAPLIN, 
JAMES (CTR)
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:59 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

Interesting because when I ran the same script on a RHEL 5.9 guest (w/ 2 
vCPUs), we get:

./gettricks.sh
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  60259 128520 96523 256447792 415684 8000 15453 134955
statOut2 = cpu  60259 128520 96524 256448793 415686 8000 15453 134955
nums1 = 60259+128520+96523+256447792+415684+8000+15453+134955
nums2 = 60259+128520+96524+256448793+415686+8000+15453+134955
totalTicks = 1004

Do not have a RHEL  6.3 system to compare with :-(.

James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux
Base Technologies, a CA Technologies Company Supporting the zSeries Platform 
Team



-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael 
MacIsaac
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:30 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

I'm hacking around with CPU utilization numbers from /proc/stat with this 
little script:

# cat getticks
#!/bin/bash
  echo getting one set of data
  statOut1=`egrep '^cpu ' /proc/stat`
  echo sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
  sleep 5
  statOut2=`egrep '^cpu ' /proc/stat`
  nums1=`echo $statOut1 | grep ^cpu | sed -e 's/cpu\s*//g' -e 's/ /+/g'`
  let sum1=$nums1
  nums2=`echo $statOut2 | grep ^cpu | sed -e 's/cpu\s*//g' -e 's/ /+/g'`
  let sum2=$nums2
  let totalTicks=$sum2-$sum1
  echo statOut1 = $statOut1
  echo statOut2 = $statOut2
  echo nums1 = $nums1
  echo nums2 = $nums2
  echo totalTicks = $totalTicks


On a SLES 11 SP2 system, with 5 vCPUs, I get the expected output:

# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  251 8 170 857508 145 2 7 32 0 0
statOut2 = cpu  251 8 170 860009 145 2 7 32 0 0
nums1 = 251+8+170+857508+145+2+7+32+0+0
nums2 = 251+8+170+860009+145+2+7+32+0+0
totalTicks = 2501

2501 ~= 5 seconds * 5 CPUs * 100 ticks/sec

On a RHEL 6.3 system (2 vCPUs), I get a *slightly* different number:

# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  13059 57057 56528 4 0 2740 3152 3130 0
statOut2 = cpu  13059 57057 56529 4 0 2740 3152 3130 0
nums1 = 13059+57057+56528+4+0+2740+3152+3130+0
nums2 = 13059+57057+56529+4+0+2740+3152+3130+0
totalTicks = 1

HUH? Does RHEL not count ticks in /proc/stat?

Any help will be appreciated.

Mike MacIsaac mikemac at-sign us.ibm.com

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Re: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

2013-05-17 Thread Michael MacIsaac
James, Emmett,

Thanks for the replies.  Good to know that an older and a new RHEL seem to
come up with the right answer (I assume you both have 2 vCPUs).

Just to be sure, I tried again on my reference system, and got similar
results:

# cat /etc/redhat-release
   Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.3 (Santiago)
# ./getticks
getting one set of data
sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
statOut1 = cpu  13191 57057 57033 4 0 2781 3194 3158 0
statOut2 = cpu  13191 57057 57033 4 0 2781 3194 3158 0
nums1 = 13191+57057+57033+4+0+2781+3194+3158+0
nums2 = 13191+57057+57033+4+0+2781+3194+3158+0
totalTicks = 0


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Re: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

2013-05-17 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hello list,

Aha moment - a while back I reported that vmstat 1 2 was core dumping on
RHEL 6.3. I got a reply this is a known issue and that there is a fix.
This must be the same issue (without a proper tick count, the code might
be trying to divide by 0).  Another mystery solved.

I think it's time to move to RHEL 6.4 ...

Thanks again for all quick replies.

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Re: timer ticks in /proc/stat - more differences between SLES and RHEL?

2013-05-17 Thread Rick Troth
The differences you're seeing ... some are lag-time as changes get
rolled into the kernel and utilities, but others may be variances from
a standard.  (or lag-time in keeping up with the standard)

Standard ... is there?  Why ... yes, there is!

   The Linux Standard Base was created
to lower the overall costs of supporting the Linux platform.
By reducing the differences between individual Linux distributions,
the LSB greatly reduces the costs involved with porting applications
to different distributions, as well as lowers the cost and effort
involved in after-market support of those applications.

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/lsb

And it appears that IBM, SuSE, and RedHat are all supporting members of the LF.

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On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com wrote:
 James, Emmett,

 Thanks for the replies.  Good to know that an older and a new RHEL seem to
 come up with the right answer (I assume you both have 2 vCPUs).

 Just to be sure, I tried again on my reference system, and got similar
 results:

 # cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.3 (Santiago)
 # ./getticks
 getting one set of data
 sleeping 5 seconds and getting another set of data
 statOut1 = cpu  13191 57057 57033 4 0 2781 3194 3158 0
 statOut2 = cpu  13191 57057 57033 4 0 2781 3194 3158 0
 nums1 = 13191+57057+57033+4+0+2781+3194+3158+0
 nums2 = 13191+57057+57033+4+0+2781+3194+3158+0
 totalTicks = 0


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