Re: X-Server

2000-02-17 Thread Robert de Bath


On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, LORENTZ Istvan wrote:

>   Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running 
> on 16 bit systems ? 
>   I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
>   Is it possible ?
A real X-Server would probably not be available for a 286 nowadays but ...

Not strictly an X-Server but it you want an X-display on a 286 you're
probably best with VNC from ORL (now AT&T IIRC). The X-server proper
runs on the main host and it uses the VNC client as a TCPIP connected
smart graphics card and mouse driver.

The VNC client is small enough to boot off a floppy complete with big
linux kernel, I've never heard of an ELKS version (How's the TCPIP code
doing nowadays?) but DOS & 'doze-32 versions do exist.

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Re: X-Server

2000-01-18 Thread Angel Martin Alganza

Hi Istvan,

Have a look at W and MGR. You will find links to them at my site
http://www.ugr.es/~ama/compro/. I think both of them as well as
Microwindows (I don't have a link handy for it) are good candidates.

Regards,
Angel

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, LORENTZ Istvan wrote:

> 
>   Hi!
> 
>   I just heard about the elks project;
> 
>   Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running 
> on 16 bit systems ? 
>   I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
>   Is it possible ?
> 
> 



Re: X-Server

2000-01-18 Thread Michael A Hamblin

On Mon, 17 Jan 100, Eric J. Korpela wrote:

> > I recall mention of DesqViewX allowing an X-server for a 286, but I can't
> > say I've ever seen it.

My copy of DesqView X only runs on 386s I'm afraid. If someone is
interested in purchasing it perhaps we could work something out.

> There are also versions of PC-Xview that run on 286.  One under Windows 3.1
> in standard mode, and one that runs under DOS.  I seem to remember seeing
> several copies of each a Weird Stuff Warehouse (the hardware half, not the
> software half) a couple months ago.  If you know someone in the San Francisco
> bay area, they may be able to check it out for you.

Oooohh... this is interesting. Too bad the bay is a few thousand miles
from Dallas, but I'd be interested in seeing this application.

Sometimes I just go crazy that I'm only an Undergrad EE student. If only I
had the embedded PowerPC background I wish I had I could have some real
fun... ELKS is cool, gives me inspiration :)

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Re: X-Server

2000-01-17 Thread Eric J. Korpela

> I recall mention of DesqViewX allowing an X-server for a 286, but I can't
> say I've ever seen it.

There are also versions of PC-Xview that run on 286.  One under Windows 3.1
in standard mode, and one that runs under DOS.  I seem to remember seeing
several copies of each a Weird Stuff Warehouse (the hardware half, not the
software half) a couple months ago.  If you know someone in the San Francisco
bay area, they may be able to check it out for you.

Eric



RE: X-Server

2000-01-14 Thread Greg Haerr

:   Hi!
: 
:   I just heard about the elks project;
: 
:   Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running 
: on 16 bit systems ? 
:   I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
:   Is it possible ?
: 

If you want to run a terminal program, we have that running with
ELKS' graphical applications development system, known as 
Microwindows.  It's fairly easy to write new graphics applications,
but of course we've got the 128k code/data limitations...

If, OTOH, you're looking to run unmodifed X applications on
286's in real mode, I would say that, unless you've got a
lot of time on your hands, it's not available.

Greg



Re: X-Server

2000-01-14 Thread iwishihadda realname
I too am new to the elks project.  As far as I can tell, your best bet for turning a 286 into an X terminal would be through the microwindows project(http://microwindows.censoft.com).

As for me, my interest in the elks project lies with networking older systems without turning to proprietary software.  I have a number of older x86 machines I would very much like to set up as remote access terminals.

As far as my abilities to contribute to the project, I am currently in the process of teaching myself C, so hopefully in a few weeks I should be able to start debugging and/or writing code.

A question for whoever might be able to answer it:  Can ELKS handle the microchannel architecture used in some IBM PS/2's?  I have several PS/2 mod 55's (386sx16, 2mb ram, 60mb HDD and 1.44mb FDD) I'd like to set up using ELKS if that's possible.

Thanks, all.

-matt balaun
--- LORENTZ Istvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 	Hi!
> 
> 	I just heard about the elks project;
> 
> 	Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server
> running 
> on 16 bit systems ? 
> 	I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
> 	Is it possible ?
> 
> 
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Re: X-Server

2000-01-14 Thread Jakov af Wallby



On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, LORENTZ Istvan wrote:

> 
>   Hi!
> 
>   I just heard about the elks project;
> 
>   Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running 
> on 16 bit systems ? 
>   I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
>   Is it possible ?

This is an old one, which after many, many postings about whether this
is at all possible usually boils down to someone admitting [s]he has
an old commercial X11 or X10 server for 80286 DOS or Windows
(but not working on 8088 or 8086).


regards,
Jakob




Re: X-Server

2000-01-14 Thread Dan Olson

I recall mention of DesqViewX allowing an X-server for a 286, but I can't
say I've ever seen it.

Dan


On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, LORENTZ Istvan wrote:

> 
>   Hi!
> 
>   I just heard about the elks project;
> 
>   Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running 
> on 16 bit systems ? 
>   I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
>   Is it possible ?
> 
> 



X-Server

2000-01-13 Thread LORENTZ Istvan


Hi!

I just heard about the elks project;

Does anybody know about an X-Window R11 Server running 
on 16 bit systems ? 
I want to transform my old 286 to an X-terminal. 
Is it possible ?