Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

I added what I did below chronologically arranged. The first try failed
because of Packman libs. The second try failed because of less Packman
libs too.
I don't know what to install and then how to use ldconfig. When I last
tried to remove the whole studio in the box, by removing or first
install and then removing jack by zypper it failed.

I installed jack by YaST2 from repo-oss.

I don't know what to do. I can't install or remove jack, all because I
upgraded from the repo-oss version 0.109 to the Packman's version 0.116.

Cheers,
Ralf



FIRST TRY
PACKMAN PROBLEM

spinymo...@suse11:/usr/src/packages/RPMS/x86_64 wget
http://www.sonarnerd.net/suse11/jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse.x86_64.rpm

suse11:/usr/src/packages/RPMS/x86_64 # rpm -iv
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse.x86_64.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
libcap is needed by jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse.x86_64

suse11:/usr/src/packages/RPMS/x86_64 # zypper install libcap
Downloading repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done]
Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done]
Reading installed packages...

The following NEW package is going to be installed:
  libcap1


Overall download size: 8.0 K. After the operation, additional 16.0 K
will be used.
Continue? [YES/no]: y
Downloading package libcap1-1.10-10.1.x86_64 (1/1), 8.0 K (16.0 K unpacked)
Downloading: libcap1-1.10-10.1.x86_64.rpm [done]
Installing: libcap1-1.10-10.1 [done]

suse11:/usr/src/packages/RPMS/x86_64 # rpm -iv
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse.x86_64.rpm
Preparing packages for installation...
file /usr/lib64/libjackserver.so.0 from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package
libjackserver2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/lib64/libjack.so.0 from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package
libjack2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/bin/jack_freewheel from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/bin/jack_load from install of jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse
conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/bin/jack_transport from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/bin/jack_unload from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/bin/jackd from install of jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse
conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/lib64/jack/inprocess.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/lib64/jack/jack_alsa.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/lib64/jack/jack_dummy.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/lib64/jack/jack_net.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
file /usr/bin/alsa_in from install of jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse
conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/alsa_out from install of jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse
conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/jack_freewheel from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/jack_load from install of jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse
conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/jack_netsource from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/jack_transport from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/jack_unload from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/bin/jackd from install of jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse
conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/lib64/jack/inprocess.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/lib64/jack/intime.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/lib64/jack/jack_alsa.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/lib64/jack/jack_dummy.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1
file /usr/lib64/jack/jack_net.so from install of
jack-0.116.1-16.jl.suse conflicts with file from package 

Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread oc2pus
Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 Hi :)

 I added what I did below chronologically arranged. The first try failed
 because of Packman libs. The second try failed because of less Packman
 libs too.
 I don't know what to install and then how to use ldconfig. When I last
 tried to remove the whole studio in the box, by removing or first
 install and then removing jack by zypper it failed.

you can't do it this way ... 

first note: rpm -i is totally wrong here., you don't want to install you want 
to do a upgrade or downgrade.

second note: you need a package-manager to resolve this problem :)

explantation:
jack and jack2 are providing the same functionality, so you have to make a 
choice which package-family you want to use.
possibility a) install jack, libjack0 and libjackserver0 == 0.116.x
possibility b) install jack2, libjack2-0 and libjackserver2-0 == 1.9.x
Those two package-families are mutual exclusive.

According the openSuSE shared library policy all shared libs are splitted out 
in seperate packages with the so-name in the package name.

if you pull in the mentioned package from http://www.sonarnerd.net/suse11/
you need additional steps, as these package doesn't follow the original SuSE 
packages. It contains the binaries and the libs without obsoleting/requiring 
other packages. And it need libcapX as it is configured to use libcap. The 
SuSE packages and the packman packages don't use this option.
This package can only be installed with a 
rpm -e --nodeps all installed jack-packages (get a list with rpm -qa | grep 
jack) and the install this special jack package with rpm -Uhv ...

 I installed jack by YaST2 from repo-oss.

 I don't know what to do. I can't install or remove jack, all because I
 upgraded from the repo-oss version 0.109 to the Packman's version 0.116.
btw, you are the only person with install problems with the packman packages. 
I think I know the reason know, please use your package-manager to 
install/deinstall/upgrade your packages. And always refresh your 
package-cache before doing such operations.

If you still have problems to install the packman packages, post your problems 
to our mailing list and or cc me (I've packaged those packages for packman)
http://lists.links2linux.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/packman

 Cheers,
 Ralf

snip

have fun
oc2pus
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Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
   
 If you are interested in solving what's going wrong Oc2pus, here is the
 calumet.

 A resume:

 I booted Suse 11.0

 Launched YaST2, Install Software and upgraded all packages

 jackd 0.109 from OSS was replaced by jackd 0.116 from a PACKMAN-mirror

 Right after this, jackd was broken. Suse 11.0 is a clean install, there
 might be some LADSPA self compiled and definitive QjackCtl is self
 compiled, nothing else should be from any other source, but OSS,
 NON-OSS, UPDATES, PACKMAN and VIDEOLAN.

 YaST2 says that all dependencies are fine.
 

 please post the output of 
 rpm -qa | grep jack

 have fun
 oc2pus
   

I guess one archives mailing list at this point is enough for this, we
should it sent only to LAD or jack-dev or go on off-list.

Oops, I just rebooted from Lenny to Suse and back to Lenny.

Now I have to go shopping, I'll boot Suse and run rpm -qa | grep jack
when I'm back, this might take one hour or more.

Just to rule out I did this stupid check:

This is the mirror YaST2 used: http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/

Today it's equal to another server, maybe it was also equal, when I run
the upgrade.

spinymo...@suse11:~ mkdir diff
spinymo...@suse11:~ wget
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
--2008-12-15 19:26:13-- 
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
Resolving ftp.skynet.be... 195.238.1.7
Connecting to ftp.skynet.be|195.238.1.7|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 112723 (110K) [application/x-redhat-package-manager]
Saving to: `jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm'

100%[=]
112,723  428K/s   in 0.3s

2008-12-15 19:26:13 (428 KB/s) - `jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm' saved
[112723/112723]

spinymo...@suse11:~ cd diff
spinymo...@suse11:~/diff wget
http://packman.jacobs-university.de/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
--2008-12-15 19:26:44-- 
http://packman.jacobs-university.de/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
Resolving packman.jacobs-university.de... 212.201.44.24
Connecting to packman.jacobs-university.de|212.201.44.24|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 112723 (110K) [application/x-rpm]
Saving to: `jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm'

100%[=]
112,723  128K/s   in 0.9s

2008-12-15 19:26:45 (128 KB/s) - `jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm' saved
[112723/112723]

spinymo...@suse11:~/diff diff jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
~/jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
spinymo...@suse11:~/diff ce ..
bash: ce: command not found
spinymo...@suse11:~/diff cd..
spinymo...@suse11:~ rm -r diff jack-0.116.1-0.pm.1.x86_64.rpm
spinymo...@suse11:~



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Re: [LAD] Problems with compiling

2008-12-15 Thread Thomas Kuther
On Sa, 13.12.08 04:25 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 At Linux-Club where I asked because I haven't that knowledge, they
 laughed about me and they say, that there's a patch needed:

Nobody laughed about you there. I didn't participate in that discussion, 
I just read it afterwards. But honestly, it was almost impossible to
understand what exactly your problem was.

 I compiled it for 64 Studio x86_64 without a patch, I only used the
 normal source to compile it.

That's a gcc-4.3 issue. Maybe 64studio isn't using gcc-4.3 yet, which
would explain why it works without a patch there.
You can find out the version with gcc -v. For 4.3 upwards, you will
need that patch.


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Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Oc2pus :)

here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's unknown by the package
management and including jack in it's name.

oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
 please post the output of 
 rpm -qa | grep jack
   

suse11:/home/spymo # yast2 --install

System dependencies verify OK.
All package dependencies are OK.
jack 0.109.2-36.1-x86_64 is isntalled
jack-32bit isn't installed
jack2 1.9.0-0.pm.4-x86_64 is installed
 
suse11:/home/spymo # exit
spinymo...@suse11:~ rpm -qa | grep jack
jack_mixer-6-0.pm.3
jackmeter-0.3-0.pm.1
libjack2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
jack_snapshot-0.0.3-0.pm.1
jackbeat-0.6.3-0.pm.1
jacktube-0.20-0.pm.1
libjackserver2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
jackEQ-0.4.1-0.pm.2
jackmixdesk-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
jack_capture-0.9.31-0.pm.1
jack-scope-20080627-0.pm.1
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1
jackmix-0.4-0.pm.1
qjacklam-0.3-0.pm.2
jack-0.109.2-36.1
jackmixdesk-gui-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
jackmaster-0.0.1-0.pm.1
jack-rack-1.4.7-68.1
libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1
jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4

spinymo...@suse11:~ ls -l  /usr/local/bin
total 1496
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  246832 2008-10-13 22:55 non-daw
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  191408 2008-10-13 22:59 non-sequencer
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1074368 2008-10-12 02:05 qjackctl

Self compiled and make install instead of checkinstall, because
checkinstall doesn't work, since I have 64-bit hardware. Qjackctl seems
to be cvs version 0.3.3.6 and because of the make install, it's not
known by the packet management.

The latest rsync of Suse 11.0 is from ...
spinymo...@suse11:~ ls -l /mnt/backup_space_i
[snip]
drwxr-xr-x 21 spinymouse  1000 4096 2008-08-19 10:27 tmp_suse11.0-19-08-2008
... so I would prefer to get it repaired, instead of restoring it from
that backup.

Cheers,
Ralf



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Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread oc2pus
Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
 Hi Oc2pus :)

 here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
 dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's unknown by the package
 management and including jack in it's name.

 oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
  please post the output of
  rpm -qa | grep jack

 spinymo...@suse11:~ rpm -qa | grep jack
 jackmeter-0.3-0.pm.1
 libjack2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4   
 jack_snapshot-0.0.3-0.pm.1
 jackbeat-0.6.3-0.pm.1
 jacktube-0.20-0.pm.1
 libjackserver2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4 =
 jackEQ-0.4.1-0.pm.2
 jackmixdesk-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
 jack_capture-0.9.31-0.pm.1
 jack-scope-20080627-0.pm.1
 libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1   ==
 jackmix-0.4-0.pm.1
 qjacklam-0.3-0.pm.2
 jack-0.109.2-36.1 ===  NOT A PACKMAN PACKAGE
 jackmixdesk-gui-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
 jackmaster-0.0.1-0.pm.1
 jack-rack-1.4.7-68.1
 libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1 = 
 jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4   === 

I marked them with 

your system is borked, yo have a total mixture of jack2 and jack
even 32bit variants in your system...

this can't work,never ever :)

you need 
jack2, libjackserver2-0 libjack2-0
OR
jack, libjackserver0, libjackserver0

don't know how you managed to reach this installation mixture. 

But if it helps you, you can continue  to write in all your known  
communities: 
sarkasm mode on
its ALWAYS the packager's mistake!  and those packages are totally borked...
/sarkasm mode off

A tip from me:  simply try gentoo, than YOU are the master of installing and 
compiling things. And if things won't work as expected, grab your own nose 
and yell around :)

 Cheers,
 Ralf


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Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
 Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
   
 Hi Oc2pus :)

 here is the information I got by rpm, I also checked jack only and
 dependencies by YaST2 and added the stuff that's unknown by the package
 management and including jack in it's name.

 oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
 
 please post the output of
 rpm -qa | grep jack
   

   
 spinymo...@suse11:~ rpm -qa | grep jack
 jackmeter-0.3-0.pm.1
 libjack2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4   
 jack_snapshot-0.0.3-0.pm.1
 jackbeat-0.6.3-0.pm.1
 jacktube-0.20-0.pm.1
 libjackserver2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4 =
 jackEQ-0.4.1-0.pm.2
 jackmixdesk-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
 jack_capture-0.9.31-0.pm.1
 jack-scope-20080627-0.pm.1
 libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1   ==
 jackmix-0.4-0.pm.1
 qjacklam-0.3-0.pm.2
 jack-0.109.2-36.1 ===  NOT A PACKMAN PACKAGE
 jackmixdesk-gui-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
 jackmaster-0.0.1-0.pm.1
 jack-rack-1.4.7-68.1
 libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1 = 
 jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4   === 
 

 I marked them with 

 your system is borked, yo have a total mixture of jack2 and jack
 even 32bit variants in your system...

 this can't work,never ever :)

 you need 
 jack2, libjackserver2-0 libjack2-0
 OR
 jack, libjackserver0, libjackserver0

 don't know how you managed to reach this installation mixture. 

 But if it helps you, you can continue  to write in all your known  
 communities: 
 sarkasm mode on
 its ALWAYS the packager's mistake!  and those packages are totally borked...
 /sarkasm mode off

 A tip from me:  simply try gentoo, than YOU are the master of installing and 
 compiling things. And if things won't work as expected, grab your own nose 
 and yell around :)

   
 Cheers,
 Ralf
 

I just wrote about a bug, I never said that it's a sin to produce bugs,
I produce bugs myself, but here I just installed and removed jack
packages by YaST and at a later point by zypper. Because you guess that
you are god, I won't report it to you. Sorry, my mental disorders
differs to the once you have got. Please, don't care about my mails and
postings. It's wasting time, we don't have enough in common to
correspond about those things. I never installed jack2 by myself, it was
installed as a dependency to jack. I can try to force, to remove jack2,
libjackserver2-0, libjack2-0 and to install jack, libjackserver0, but
the problem seems to be, that YaST and zypper aren't able to do this any
more. I'm fine with Suse and Debian, but I'm not fine with people like
you. I don't understand what's the problem with this. You don't need to
write me your opinions, if you think that I'm faking bugs, let the
people know that I'm a liar. I distinctly declared that I won't report
bugs to some people. I like to help people that are using Suse and I
like to get help. Maybe you should engage the services of Gentoo, if you
don't like Suse users. It all started with 2 bugs I reported by details
at Linux-Club, than I had to declare what my needs about a tool like
Linux are. I stoped this conversation at Linux-Club and you are
stalking. YOU DON'T NEED TO WRITE TO ME! I don't wish to have a
discussion about different Linux-World-Views. And if you answer people,
not only here, please read what they have written. Yes, as I've written,
jack-0.109.2-36.1 is from repo-oss, maybe because I tried to downgrade
to this package, perhaps I have written that. Will it be fine for you if
I declare, that I'm totally wrong and you are god?

I JUST NEED HELP, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW SOME THINGS, I DON'T NEED
ACIDNESS! You are a stalker, don't follow me.



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Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Arnold Krille
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 02:21:03 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Oc2pus, I don't will write any thing more about this issue, you are free
 to write books about it, but I won't reply to stuff that has nothing to
 do with my request, if it's in that German forum style.

Apart from the fact that your other mails are really long, this is the kind of 
attitude to _not_ get you any help. What oc2pus wrote are actually very valid 
points (apart from the tip that your situation will get better with gentoo, 
you don't know enough about linux to install/manage gentoo). You do have two 
different versions installed. This _is_ a messed up system. Why don't you try 
to clean that up instead of writing long and angry mails?

Have fun,

Arnold


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Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread torbenh
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 06:26:49PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 oc2...@arcor.de wrote:
  you can't do it this way ... 
 
  first note: rpm -i is totally wrong here., you don't want to install you 
  want 
  to do a upgrade or downgrade.
 
  second note: you need a package-manager to resolve this problem :)
 
  explantation:
  jack and jack2 are providing the same functionality, so you have to make 
  a 
  choice which package-family you want to use.
  possibility a) install jack, libjack0 and libjackserver0 == 0.116.x
  possibility b) install jack2, libjack2-0 and libjackserver2-0 == 1.9.x
  Those two package-families are mutual exclusive.
 
  According the openSuSE shared library policy all shared libs are splitted 
  out 
  in seperate packages with the so-name in the package name.
 
  if you pull in the mentioned package from http://www.sonarnerd.net/suse11/
  you need additional steps, as these package doesn't follow the original 
  SuSE 
  packages.
 
 I first had a 0.109 install from the repo-oss. I upgraded by YaST2 to
 0.116 from the Packman Repo and got the same as a lot of people got, see
 http://ardour.org/node/2271.
 
 Some steps followed, see
 
 * [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64
   http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2008/12/0047.html /Ralf
   Mardorf/ /(Sun Dec 14 2008 - 21:29:57 EET)/
   o Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64
 http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2008/12/0048.html 
 /torb...@email-addr-hidden/ /(Sun
 Dec 14 2008 - 21:37:10 EET)/
 + Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64
   http://lalists.stanford.edu/lad/2008/12/0049.html /Ralf
   Mardorf/ /(Mon Dec 15 2008 - 02:23:07 EET)/
 

just install a self built source OVER the stuff from the package.
and then run ldconfig as root.

there is no i dont know how to use ldconfig
it just does its thing. you dont need to give it options,
or interact with it. you just need to start it.

after it ran you can use the installed jackd.

i am really sorry, but you are making it very hard to help you.


 
 Why, you always ignored what I was writing. You can read all messages
 here in the LAD mailing list archive.

random up and downgrading, and mixing several repos is very likely
to break your system.



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Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Arnold Krille wrote:
 You do have two different versions installed. This _is_ a messed up system. 
 Why don't you try 
 to clean that up

I need to find out how to do this. After I upgraded my Suse 11.0 from
jackd 0.109 to jackd 0.116 by using YaST2, it was broken. Maybe not the
way it's broken now, but jackd started with an error, then I downgraded
to 0.109, the version that was fine before, but it didn't repair the
system, jackd still was broken.

When I'm writing of downgrading, I mean first to remove by YaST2 and
then to install, but YaST seems to keep some libs. I tried what was
posted at the Ardour page, rm some libs* using a terminal, but until now
it's still broken. I can restore a backup by rsync, but I would like to
repair it.

The discussion about knowledge is invalid, because it doesn't has to do
with the problem and just is guessed and it's a typical German problem.



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Re: [LAD] [Jack-Devel] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
torb...@gmx.de wrote:
 just install a self built source OVER the stuff from the package.
 and then run ldconfig as root.

 there is no i dont know how to use ldconfig
 it just does its thing. you dont need to give it options,
 or interact with it. you just need to start it.

 after it ran you can use the installed jackd.

 i am really sorry, but you are making it very hard to help you.
   

Thank You :)

I hope this will help.

 random up and downgrading, and mixing several repos is very likely
 to break your system.
   

It broke by an upgrade from repo-oss 0.109 to Packman 0.116, when it was
broken I tried to downgrade and then I removed libs like it was written
on the Ardour homepage and after that I tried to install Jussi's RPM,
but at the beginning I didn't mix anything. It's a pure OSS, NON-OSS,
UPDATES, PACKMAN and VIDEOLAN Suse with 3 or 4 self compiled
applications, I'm not mixing anything randomly for this install. Okay, I
might not use VIDEOLAN, but that is the only critical repository.

Cheers,
Ralf



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Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 just remove the offending packages.
 read the man page of rpm and remove them.
 i guess you need the force option
 

 Okay, I'll resume:

 1. RPM force option to remove the offending Packages
 2. install from the source (or try Packman again or try Jussi's RPM +
 dependency, all should work)
 3. run ldconfig
   

While I was tired, I tried to install jack, okay, --force seems to be
the wrong option and I've forgotten to run ldconfig, see terminal_1.txt.

Then I tried to erase the jack2 stuff, but everything depends to it, I
removed the jack stuff instead, because there were no dependency
conflicts. Than I --replaced jack2, run ldconfig, but nothing changed,
see terminal_2.txt and ignore the OT statements, they are remarks for me.

Today I might not be able to spend time in Suse Linux. I've to work.
I'll take look at man rpm and will search the net ASAP.
suse11:~ # rpm -qa | grep jack
jack_mixer-6-0.pm.3
jackmeter-0.3-0.pm.1
libjack2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
jack_snapshot-0.0.3-0.pm.1
jackbeat-0.6.3-0.pm.1
jacktube-0.20-0.pm.1
libjackserver2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
jackEQ-0.4.1-0.pm.2
jackmixdesk-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
jack_capture-0.9.31-0.pm.1
jack-scope-20080627-0.pm.1
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1
jackmix-0.4-0.pm.1
qjacklam-0.3-0.pm.2
jack-0.109.2-36.1
jackmixdesk-gui-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
jackmaster-0.0.1-0.pm.1
jack-rack-1.4.7-68.1
libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1
jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4
suse11:~ # rpm --test -ivh --force 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/jack-0.109.2-36.1.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/jack-0.109.2-36.1.x86_64.rpm
Preparing...### [100%]
suse11:~ # jackd --help
jackd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
suse11:~ # rpm -ivh --force 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/jack-0.109.2-36.1.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.0/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/jack-0.109.2-36.1.x86_64.rpm
Preparing...### [100%]
   1:jack   ### [100%]
suse11:~ # jackd --help
jackd: error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannot open shared 
object file: No such file or directory
suse11:~ # rpm -qa | grep jack
jack_mixer-6-0.pm.3
jackmeter-0.3-0.pm.1
libjack2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
jack_snapshot-0.0.3-0.pm.1
jackbeat-0.6.3-0.pm.1
jacktube-0.20-0.pm.1
libjackserver2-0-1.9.0-0.pm.4
jack-0.109.2-36.1
jackEQ-0.4.1-0.pm.2
jackmixdesk-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
jack_capture-0.9.31-0.pm.1
jack-scope-20080627-0.pm.1
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1
jackmix-0.4-0.pm.1
qjacklam-0.3-0.pm.2
jackmixdesk-gui-0.3-112.pm.svn20070530
jackmaster-0.0.1-0.pm.1
jack-rack-1.4.7-68.1
libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1
jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4I guess checkinstall sometimes worked for my 64bit hardware too, resp. I can't 
remember how I build this package, maybe there was another automation, that 
build the RPM: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/x86_64/wineasio-x-1.x86_64.rpm

wineasio - wineasio-x suse11.0 spinymouse 5 Aug 2008
Version: x-1
Project Page: 
wineasio-x suse11.0 spinymouse 5 Aug 2008

Anyway, there are some more applications I compiled, but I don't need them and 
they shouldn't be part of the problem.

suse11:~ # rpm --test -ev jack-0.109.2-36.1 libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1 
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1
error: Failed dependencies:
jack-devel is needed by (installed) arts-devel-1.5.9-33.1.x86_64
suse11:~ # rpm --test -ev jack-0.109.2-36.1 libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1 
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1 arts-devel-1.5.9-33.1.x86_64
error: Failed dependencies:
arts-devel is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-49.1.x86_64
suse11:~ # rpm --test -ev jack-0.109.2-36.1 libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1 
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1 arts-devel-1.5.9-33.1.x86_64 
kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-49.1.x86_64
suse11:~ # rpm -ev jack-0.109.2-36.1 libjack0-32bit-0.109.2-36.1 
libjack-devel-0.116.1-0.pm.1 arts-devel-1.5.9-33.1.x86_64 
kdelibs3-devel-3.5.9-49.1.x86_64

I don't need the devel packages, but I need jack. I first will try to force to 
get jack2 by the replace options.

suse11:~ # rpm --test --replacefiles --replacepkgs -ivh 
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving 
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4.x86_64.rpm
warning: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.wajmN8: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 
9a795806
Preparing...### [100%]
suse11:~ # rpm --replacefiles --replacepkgs -ivh 
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4.x86_64.rpm
Retrieving 
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/x86_64/jack2-1.9.0-0.pm.4.x86_64.rpm
warning: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.Bp1RLi: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 
9a795806
Preparing...

Re: [LAD] JACK for openSUSE 11.0 x86_64

2008-12-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
What I'm thinking of, isn't to erase any package, but I hope I used the
replace option not correct and that it will be possible to replace jack2
libs by jack libs, or if I like to get jack2 installed correctly, this
hopefully will also be fine, if I know how to use the replace options in
the right way. And I won't forget to run ldconfig.



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