Re: [LAD] [offtopic] loopback

[gene heskett]

On Tuesday, April 12, 2011 05:03:51 PM Jens M Andreasen did opine:

> Test: ISP ate my e-mail ...
> 
> /j
> 
And this one made it through the gauntlet.

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[LAD] [offtopic] loopback

[Jens M Andreasen]

Test: ISP ate my e-mail ...

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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[Thomas Vecchione]

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

>
> You either need to break out some code, or some cash.
>
>
Heh if I could code DSP processing I would, however I never even took Calc,
so for the most part I am way out of my league there.  I should get my wife
to teach me sometime.  Cash on the other hand is doable(Well maybe not at
this very moment, dang US taxes), but not at the level where I can sponsor
the development of that code solo, otherwise I would have(And have even
mentioned it before though not on mailing lists;)

  Seablade
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Re: [LAD] [ann] CAPS 0.4.5

[Tim Goetze]

[David Robillard]
> No, the pragmatic thing to do is not deliberately break your plugin when
> several knowledgeable people have pointed out that doing so can cause 
> countless
> problems.

Again: not the plugin is broken, but the host that assumes the port 
signature not to change over different plugin versions.

There is no mention of such a requirement in the interface 
specification, therefore the assumption is invalid and the 
responsibility for potential breakage lies with the host.

It has been shown that properly designed hosts handle the port 
addition just fine.

You may of course argue - not entirely unreasonably - that it is more 
pragmatic for the plugin author to cater for broken hosts than to 
expect them to be fixed.  Do you?

Tim
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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[Arnold Krille]

On Tuesday 12 April 2011 10:13:26 Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> It occurs to me that I have noticed a similar effect, but the other way
> round, in some older films (especially older ones) which were dubbed to
> Italian: when no one is speaking there is some background "noise" (e.g.
> a street or simply some broadband signal), which dissapears when the
> dubbed part comes in as if some kind of ducking was made. The
> interesting thing is that the abrupt disappearing and reappearing of the
> noise actually makes it more noticeable.

Sounds as if the dubbing happened on the final audio tracks. Normally film-
makers save the audio- and speech-tracks separately to switch the language. 
But when the material is old and no one saved a "karaoke"-version, the only 
chance is to do nice ducking. Or use subtitles and run it in "alternative" 
cinemas:-)

Have fun,

Arnold


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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[Arnold Krille]

On Tuesday 12 April 2011 09:16:36 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
> Excerpts from Gordon JC Pearce's message of 2011-04-12 09:04:46 +0200:
> > On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 19:09 -0400, Thomas Vecchione wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Fons Adriaensen 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > It would help to know the origin of the the 'noise' or to have
> > > a
> > > sample of it.
> > > 
> > > Agreed in as far as helping to address it, however it still leaves the
> > > fact that there just aren't many, if any, good restoration solutions
> > > on Linux so even so there is only so much I can suggest, unless you
> > > know of some solutions I don't?
> > > 
> > >   Seablade
> > > 
> > > Who honestly would like some good restoration solutions on Linux.
> > 
> > If your bike has a flat tyre, there's a good chance it'll stay flat
> > until you fix it.
> > 
> > You either need to break out some code, or some cash.
> > 
> > Gordon MM0YEQ
> 
> Does someone have some code to fix bikes? The symptoms are flat tires,
> shifty gears and funky noises.

I don't have code to fix tires. But some years ago I decided that its cheaper 
(and better for my health) to pay a bike-shop 10€ to fix the flat tire instead 
of me spending an afternoon, getting my hands dirty, my mind angry and my bike 
broken...

Why not improve gwc? Last I looked, the code was open source. So even if the 
original author has no further interest in updating, "fixing" and improving it, 
that doesn't keep you from doing exactly that. Or from you setting some bounty 
for someone else to do the coding job.
Or you can just wait, lament on the state of noise-removal tools on linux and 
keep on paying win-developers to do this...

Have fun,

Arnold


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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[Lorenzo Sutton]

Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:43:45PM +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>> Try Gramofile [1] or Gnome Wave Cleaner [2].
> Both seem to be quite old and it's not clear at all if they
> are still being developed or maintained.
True. Nontheless they are the only ones I'm aware of and have used with
a certain degree of satisfaction.
>> Results will very a lot
>> depending on the source material. There is a noise removal plugin of
>> Audacity, but IMHO it's not great, but let your ears judge.
> It's not clear at all from the original post what kind of 'noise'
> has to be removed. If it is _noise_ (a continuous broadband random
> signal), then frequency domain methods should be able to reduce it.
> If it is _crackle_ (short spikes) then time domain methods will have
> a better chance. Also the remark that the problem only occurs 'while
> the music is playing' adds a bit to the puzzle...
> It would help to know the origin of the the 'noise' or to have a
> sample of it.

My interpretation for noise in this case was the plain English one of
"(a) sound, especially when it is not wanted, unpleasant or loud" [1]
(which is of course disputable)  - :)
I am guessing the noise occurring while the music plays may be a result
of some noise gate applied to the source at some stage. Mike may shed
some light on that, maybe making available a section of the material
he'd like to clean...

It occurs to me that I have noticed a similar effect, but the other way
round, in some older films (especially older ones) which were dubbed to
Italian: when no one is speaking there is some background "noise" (e.g.
a street or simply some broadband signal), which dissapears when the
dubbed part comes in as if some kind of ducking was made. The
interesting thing is that the abrupt disappearing and reappearing of the
noise actually makes it more noticeable.

Lorenzo.
> Ciao,

[1] http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/noise_1
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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[David Olofson]

On Tuesday 12 April 2011, at 09.16.36, Philipp Überbacher 
 wrote:
[...]
> > If your bike has a flat tyre, there's a good chance it'll stay flat
> > until you fix it.
> > 
> > You either need to break out some code, or some cash.
> > 
> > Gordon MM0YEQ
> 
> Does someone have some code to fix bikes? The symptoms are flat tires,
> shifty gears and funky noises.

Unfortunately, the closest I have is the custom dashboard software I hacked 
for my race car. :-)


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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[Philipp Überbacher]

Excerpts from Gordon JC Pearce's message of 2011-04-12 09:04:46 +0200:
> On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 19:09 -0400, Thomas Vecchione wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Fons Adriaensen 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > It would help to know the origin of the the 'noise' or to have
> > a
> > sample of it.
> > 
> > 
> > Agreed in as far as helping to address it, however it still leaves the
> > fact that there just aren't many, if any, good restoration solutions
> > on Linux so even so there is only so much I can suggest, unless you
> > know of some solutions I don't?
> > 
> >   Seablade
> > 
> > Who honestly would like some good restoration solutions on Linux.
> 
> If your bike has a flat tyre, there's a good chance it'll stay flat
> until you fix it.
> 
> You either need to break out some code, or some cash.
> 
> Gordon MM0YEQ

Does someone have some code to fix bikes? The symptoms are flat tires,
shifty gears and funky noises.

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Re: [LAD] [LAU] FW: Frequency Space Editors in Linux

[Gordon JC Pearce]

On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 19:09 -0400, Thomas Vecchione wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Fons Adriaensen 
> wrote:
> 
> It would help to know the origin of the the 'noise' or to have
> a
> sample of it.
> 
> 
> Agreed in as far as helping to address it, however it still leaves the
> fact that there just aren't many, if any, good restoration solutions
> on Linux so even so there is only so much I can suggest, unless you
> know of some solutions I don't?
> 
>   Seablade
> 
> Who honestly would like some good restoration solutions on Linux.

If your bike has a flat tyre, there's a good chance it'll stay flat
until you fix it.

You either need to break out some code, or some cash.

Gordon MM0YEQ

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