Re: [LAD] zita1 RIP
On 09/05/13 05:09, Fons Adriaensen wrote: one of the reasons being that this is one of the few still having at least one PCI slot Hi Fons. Sad day. I have just built a new system comprising an ASUS H87-PRO which has 3 PCI slots and several pcie as well. Uses the new HASWELL Intel cpu's but it's a great board. UEFI bios too... hth best g ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] zita1 RIP
Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: The new zita1 will probably be a Fujitsu P510, one of the reasons being that this is one of the few still having at least one PCI slot, so I can still use my sound cards. Any suggestions for alternatives are welcome ! I just built a Haswell Xeon-based workstation with a Supermicro X10SAE-O motherboard which has 2 regular PCI slots. ECC is a requirement of mine[1], so I didn't have a lot of choices regarding motherboards (and I also wanted a TSX-capable CPU). If you do go with a Haswell Xeon, beware GPUs are built into the CPUs nowadays and not the motherboard (even though the motherboard has video outputs). I didn't know that, but it's a good thing I don't care for graphics and a friend had an unused Radeon card. I also have a fanless Zalman FX100 CPU cooler, fanless PSU, with only one slow, giant case fan. It's inaudible unless I'm focusing on it over other ambient noise. [1] - I surprised ECC memory hasn't taken off at all in the audio world (from what I can tell). I often work on servers, so it's strangely uncomfortable to have any important data/work on a machine without ECC (especially given the size of memory and the aggressiveness of Linux VFS caching). ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] zita1 RIP
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 07:09:56PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: The new zita1 will probably be a Fujitsu P510, one of the reasons being that this is one of the few still having at least one PCI slot, so I can still use my sound cards. Any suggestions for alternatives are welcome ! If you wanted to go the AMD route, ASUS are still making some motherboards with 2 or more PCI slots. I'm still using Athlon64x2 CPUs on Asus M3A78-PRO boards (with ECC RAM) in my DAWs, but last time I checked there were still current boards with 3 PCI slots. Boards with 2xPCI are still fairly common. In general I prefer ECC memory, high efficiency CPUs and low-power graphics hardware for audio work. Keeping the power consumption down allows fan noise to be minimised. My location DAW can run fanless. I also prefer to run efficient software to keep CPU load (and heat) down. Thanks for writing such efficient software BTW :-) John ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] zita1 RIP
On Thursday 05 September 2013 17:30:26 Fons Adriaensen did opine: On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 01:53:33PM -0700, J. Liles wrote: Another one bites the dust... Should've run Non on it instead. Seriously though, it's a shame. Fortunately, there are still quite a few motherboards out there with at least one PCI slot. I trust you had everything backed up! Almost... Lost two evenings of work on AP algorithms, but I have some 30 pages of scribbled notes about that, and the (Python) code itself wasn't that complicated, I'm rewriting it right now. Still, should learn to backup every day. Ciao, Let amanda do it in the middle of the night Fons. I've been using it, using virtual tapes on a terrabyte hard drive now, but with real tape since about 1999. Real tape is a maintenance headache, if you have smartctl watching the drives, they'll warn you well enough in advance that you can replace the drive ahead of a total failure. Made use of that once since I moved it to vtapes, about 7 years back. It works over the network, so my milling machine and lathe control boxes are backed up nightly too. Cheers, Gene -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: http://gene.homelinux.net:6309/gene should be up! Ben, why didn't you tell me? -- Luke Skywalker A pen in the hand of this president is far more dangerous than 200 million guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] zita1 RIP
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 01:53:33PM -0700, J. Liles wrote: Another one bites the dust... Should've run Non on it instead. Seriously though, it's a shame. Fortunately, there are still quite a few motherboards out there with at least one PCI slot. I trust you had everything backed up! Almost... Lost two evenings of work on AP algorithms, but I have some 30 pages of scribbled notes about that, and the (Python) code itself wasn't that complicated, I'm rewriting it right now. Still, should learn to backup every day. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] zita1 RIP
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.orgwrote: After more than 10 years of service my first ever Linux system died yesterday. The original configuration was P4, 0.5G memory, two IDE HD of 60G each, and it pretty much stayed like that. Two years ago the power supply blew up and was replaced by an external one (too big to go inside). Last year the first HD failed, and yesterday evening the second. This was the system on which I developed almost everything I ever released, so it carries lots of memories... Maybe one of the reasons it decided to go to the eternal processing fields was that it couldn't really cope with A3. I've mixed 20+ tracks using A2 on that system, but 350MB resident memory for an empty session was just too much... The new zita1 will probably be a Fujitsu P510, one of the reasons being that this is one of the few still having at least one PCI slot, so I can still use my sound cards. Any suggestions for alternatives are welcome ! More CPU and memory will in the end make me less frugal, but I'll resist the tendency :-) Ciao, Another one bites the dust... Should've run Non on it instead. Seriously though, it's a shame. Fortunately, there are still quite a few motherboards out there with at least one PCI slot. I trust you had everything backed up! ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev